posted August 19, 2014 06:43 AM            

Are you charismatic? What type of charisma do you posses?

Do you enchant the other with your charisma and your "Graces"? (synastry)

How strong are you attracted to each other and what kind of charisma your couple emanates? (Charis in composite/Davison).

Wiki:

In Greek mythology, a Charis (/ˈkeɪrɪs/; Greek: Χάρις, pronounced [kʰįris]) or Grace is one of three or more minor goddesses of charm, beauty, nature, human creativity, and fertility, together known as the Charites /ˈkęrɨtiːz/ (Χάριτες [kʰįritɛːs]) or Graces. The usual list, from youngest to oldest is Aglaea ("Splendor"), Euphrosyne ("Mirth"), and Thalia ("Good Cheer"). In Roman mythology they were known as the Gratiae, the "Graces". In some variants, Charis was one of the Graces and was not the singular form of their name.

The Charites were usually considered the daughters of Zeus and Eurynome, though they were also said to be daughters of Dionysus and Aphrodite or of Helios and the naiad Aegle. Other possible names of their mother by Zeus are Eurydome, Eurymedousa, and Euanthe.[1] Homer wrote that they were part of the retinue of Aphrodite. The Charites were also associated with the Greek underworld and the Eleusinian Mysteries.

posted August 19, 2014 07:00 AM            

Aglaja 47
Euphrosyne 31
Thalia 23 - (although asteroid Thalia was named after the Muse, I think we can use her here as well, as one of the Graces, because of the name resonance and the connection to the Greek Myths, like a secondary meaning of the asteroid.)

AGLAIA (or Aglaea) was the goddess of beauty, splendour, glory, magnificence and adornment. She was one of the three Kharites (Graces) who often appears dancing in a circle with her sisters. Aglaia was the wife of the god Hephaistos and the mother of the four younger Kharites named Good-Repute, Praise, Eloquence and Welcome. She was also named Kharis (the Grace) and Kale (Beauty).

EUPHROSYNE was the goddess of good cheer, joy, mirth and merriment. She was one of the three Kharites (Graces). Her name derives from the Greek word euphrosynos "merriment". In the mosaic right she is paired with Akratos, the celebratory spirit of unmixed wine. Usually, however, she appears dancing in a circle with her triplet sisters.

THALIA was the goddess of festivity and rich, luxurious banquets. She was one of the three Kharites (Graces) who usually appears with her sisters dancing in a circle.

Thalia's comes from the Greek word thalia, an adjectival term used to describe banquets as rich, plentiful, luxuriant and abundant. In this sense she was probably the same as Pandaisia (Banquet), a Kharis who accompanies Aphrodite in Athenian vase painting. Thalia's name also means "the blooming" in the sense of springtime greenery and blossoms (cf. the Hora Thallo).
http://www.theoi.com/Ouranios/KharisEuphrosyne.html

Aglaja in the chart is another asteroid for your beauty and splendor. It's a very potent spot in the chart for extraordinary beauty, charisma and love of beauty. In fact, Charis (general grace and beauty, splendor) is another name given to Aglae.

Euphrosyne will show your capacity for happiness, joy, merriment and for spreading those around you. Euphrosyne in the chart is also a spot showing what brings you happiness and true joy, what makes you happy.

Thalia as the Grace of abundance, festivities and rich banquets I think makes her a possible Dyonisiac marker, for enjoying life in a Dyonisiac way, it can also be a marker of richness, I suppose. Being the Grace of abundance, it can show a place in the chart enhancing the planets it touches, like a Jupiter or other benefic, perhaps showing certain talents.

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posted August 19, 2014 07:24 AM            

BTW, charisma is defined as: "Charisma is either compelling attractiveness or charm that can inspire devotion in others, or a divinely conferred power or talent."

My Charis is in my 4th, conjunct my IC. It is on an angle but, being on a "hidden" angle, I wonder what it means? That I have a good heart? lol What do you think Charis conjuncts IC means???

My Charis is in Taurus, so I most likely emanate the kind of charisma/attractiveness associated with the sign of Taurus. This is not bad, since this Charis is disposited by Venus, in my case another earth Venus, in Virgo.

My Charis trines my Sun exact Sun 20.23 Virgo, Charis 20.30 Taurus; and my ASC (1), the other angles as well, squares my Moon/Lilith axis.

Pluto Man's Charis conjuncts his Sun (1)...wow! so he's a charismatic fellow! This must make someone VERY charismatic, magnetic, attractive, bestowed with many gifts. He also has his Sun conjunct Vertex, which is said to belong to people "going somewhere". Being there, his Charis also trines his Moon, a bit wider, sextile his Lilith (so he has a dark appeal) and his Amor

So his Charis is in Pisces 6th, which gives a Neptunian appeal and in conjunction with the Sun, perhaps it can make someone very attractive or attractive to large masses of people.

Both our Charises are connected to Saturn, a bit wider. This could show someone getting more confident/increasing their charisma with age. Also, someone whose appeal is related to their Saturnian qualities.

posted August 19, 2014 10:36 AM            

In my chart Charis and Aglaja are relevant, Thalia and Euphrosyne are not.

-CHARIS is on 17Gem, H9, conjunct Ceres(1). This builds an Air Grand Trine with ASC(1) and Jupiter(1).

-AGLAJA is on Sun(1), 14Tau, H8. Also conjunct NN(3) and Eros(1). Square Jupiter(1).

-EUPHROSYNE is 9Vir, H11. Completing s T-square with Mars(2) and Moon(2). Inconjunct Venus 0°54'.

-THALIA is 24Gem, H9. 0°49' inconjunct Saturn, that's it. (Thalia-Circe-Saturn Yod)

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I think the graces must be an interesting thing to examine.
Here's a few case studies, from charts I have on-hand:

FAMILY
My brother has THALIA on Mercury(2), H1, Sag. I can't tell how that's coming out.

My mother has CHARIS opposite Lib Venus(1). I do know that she was really beautiful when young, her photos could have been in magazines, but she didn't "use it", wasn't aware of it.

My father has EUPHROSYNE opposite Leo Pluto(3). He will wear you down with jokes. He's always, seemingly, a joker in a good mood, but his jokes can be very cutting and mean. They're how he reveals his resentments.
Also CHARIS opposite Neptune in Libra. He is a very charismatic person, always has to be the life of the party. It can be very annoying when someone is not in the mood. I don't think he notices. Loves looking at photos and videos of himself. (Neptune-Charis?)

Cousin #1 has EUPHROSYNE on MercuryRx/Sun(3) in Virgo. She has very pretty eyes, shining. A bit unusual for a Virgo. She's not "magazine pretty", too withdrawn, but when you talk to her, her eyes shine with some kind of inner joy, which leaves you with an impression of a very sweet and pretty girl.

Cousin #2 has Leo CHARIS opposite Uranus in Aqu(1). Oh she is a charismatic one. She's the baby of the family, 2 older siblings, everyone seems to live for her. You will usually see her smiling. She also has Her Moon in Leo, though out of orb.

Cousin #3 has CHARIS on Gem Mars(3). She loves to joke around, and she's very engaging when she does. Her jokes are usually sharp, but well-meaning. I haven't noticed how that's come out with men in her life, as her husband was sort of meh. Her father was a really charismatic man, though.

Cousin #3's daughter has THALIA in Tau H1 opposite Pluto(1). Again, I don't know what that could signify.

Cousin #3's son has Gem AGLAJA(2)and Gem EUPHROSYNE(4) on Tau Sun, opposite Pluto. He is not especially pretty, but he is very vivacious and funny. You'll always see him laughing and joking around. He's a dancer, plans to do it professionally. CHARIS is opposite THALIA. (3)

Cousin #3's father(the very charismatic man), had Pis CHARIS on Ari Jupiter(3), which is opposite his Sun. No time of birth but he was almost a caricature of what a Jupiter man looks like so I assume this Charis-Jupiter has to be on/near AC. THALIA oppose Moon/Uranus(1).

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HISTORICAL
Napoleon: Mercury forms a Grand Kite with AGLAJA, EUPHROSYNE and THALIA. Vir CHARIS H11 trine Moon(0).

Robespierre, charismatic leader of the French Revolution: Gem CHARIS opposite Pluto(3), square Uranus(0°38'). Ari THALIA on Venus(2).

Saint Just, charismatic leader of the French Revolution: Gem CHARIS/THALIA trine Lib Venus(1). Unknown birth time, but he was considered very "pretty" at first impression so the Venus must be prominent.

Nicholas II Romanov, Czar of Russia, considered very good looking but not charismatic enough for his "job": Gem AGLAJA in H4, conjunct Mercury(3) and opposite Saturn(3). Mercury-Saturn is EXACTLY on the IC-MC Axis. Lib EUPHROSYNE in H8, opposite Mars(1). Vir CHARIS in H7, no major contact.

Anastasia Romanova, royalty killed in Russian Revolution, allegedly the most charismatic of the family: H12 Cancer CHARIS conjunct Sun(4) and Neptune(1), opposite Chiron(2). Virgo EUPHROSYNE right on IC(0). Letters and records show her to be a huge jokester in private, pulling practical jokes on everyone around on an almost daily basis. THALIA trine AGLAJA(0).

Control sample:
Kim Kardashian:
Leo CHARIS in H8 on NN(5: wide) but no other contacts. Hmmmmm.
Gem AGLAJA(r) in H7, trine Pluto/BML(3), Sun(3), square Moon(2).
Sco EUPHROSYNE in H11, on Mercury(1), square Nodal Axis.
Can THALIA in H7 square MC/Jupiter/Saturn, square Moon(3), trine Sun(3)

posted August 19, 2014 10:54 AM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
I think you could discover some talent later in life. My Charis is in Leo in the 12th house. Talent and charisma never discovered?

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Later in life because of the IC?

Charis is more about popularity than talents, BTW.
With Charis in Leo in the 12th you could be hugely popular or a hermit, hugely popular because Neptune is the actual lord of fascinating the masses.

I don't have to mention what is Leo's part in this

posted August 19, 2014 11:03 AM            

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Originally posted by libran_dream:
I found Aglaja in my chart a while ago but never bothered to explore it. Is it because it's in lazy Taurus?

In my chart Charis and Aglaja are relevant, Thalia and Euphrosyne are not.

-CHARIS is on 17Gem, H9, conjunct Ceres(1). This builds an Air Grand Trine with ASC(1) and Jupiter(1).

-AGLAJA is on Sun(1), 14Tau, H8. Also conjunct NN(3) and Eros(1). Square Jupiter(1).

-EUPHROSYNE is 9Vir, H11. Completing s T-square with Mars(2) and Moon(2). Inconjunct Venus 0°54'.

-THALIA is 24Gem, H9. 0°49' inconjunct Saturn, that's it. (Thalia-Circe-Saturn Yod)

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Charis in Gem 9th conjunct Ceres and in that GT makes me think of teaching. Are you a teacher of some sorts? You could even be a guru with this placement! Anyway, this shows you have your way with words, and...we have already noticed that here

Your Aglaja shows you must be very attractive, in a seductive/sensual way. The Jupiter square can even enhance that, on a physical level.

Euphrosyne shows you are good with groups of people, and you are caring and a good adviser, it completes your Charis aspects. It also shows me you are not happy if you don't have passion, perhaps even adrenaline, in your life. A collective, humanitarian cause would probably make you very happy.

Your Thalia is a bit austere, I don't think you're a huge fan of parties or banquets or luxury.

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posted August 19, 2014 11:05 AM            

Though I use Thalia as the muse of theatre.
as she is known as the muse of comedy.

But she is also one of the three Graces. interesting.

my natal

CHARIS 7 Taurus 5th house.

Interestingly she is yet ANOTHER one falling onto this spot, with my Part of Marriage, Eros/Psyche-mp and asteroid ACTOR and LUCIFER being there already

Of course that means she is part of that Kite, with the Grand trine of CHARIS/ACTOR/LUCIFER to HEKATE/LILITH to Venus/FELICITAS/ISIS/OSIRIS and so on.

sextile ISHTAR/PHOLUS & CERES in Pisces.

my AGLAIA on 00 Pisces in my 3rd house
conjunct BML
trine Uranus
quinkunx PRIAPUS

my THALIA on 1 Aquarius in 2nd house
opposite PRIAPUS
square Uranus

my EUPHROSYNE on 21 scorpio in 12th
exact on the 12th house cusp
exact conj. PENELOPE
exact opposite ODYSSEUS
cojunct ANTEROS
trine EROS-Vertex
quinkunx Chiron

his natal
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CHARIS on 13 Taurus (seems to be a slow mover then, only 6 degrees in 5 years?)

trine his Mars-Jupiter
square his SAPPHO exact

AGLAIA in 10 Pisces in 12th conj. THAIA on 7 Pisces in 12th

conjunct EROS-VENUSIA on 8 Pisces
opposite Mars-Jupiter-Amor
square Mercury-MUSA

EUPHROSYNE on 28 Libra in 7th
conjunct UNION
sextile true BML
trine PRIAPUS
sextile Moon-MC
square ISHTAR

synastrically
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my CHARIS in his 1st house:
conjunct his Chiron
trine his AMOR
sextile his EROS-THALIA

his CHARIS (in my 5th house):
sextile my Jupiter
quinkunx my APHRODITE
trine my PERSEPHONE exact

my AGLAIA in his 12th house
trine his IC
sextile his Moon
conjunct his SN exact
conjunct his PRIAPUS exact
quinkunx his true BML
quinkunx his APHRODITE
trine his UNION-EUPHROSYNE

his AGLAIA (in my 3rd house)
conjunct my chartruler Jupiter exact
square my Neptune-NN
conjunct my ISHTAR-CERES
opposite my HEKATE
square my ASTARTE
quinkunx my Pluto

my EUPHROSYNE in his 8th house
conjunct his Uranus
conjunct his VALENTINE
conjunct his ODYSSEUS

his EUPHROSYNE in my 10th house
conjunct my UNION-ADONIS-Uranus
trine my true BML
square my PRIAPUS
sextile my CIRCE exact

my THALIA in his 11th house
quinkunx his NN
conjunct his CIRCE exact

Composite
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CHARIS on 10 Taurus in 3rd house
opposite EUPHROSYNE on 10 Scorpio in 9th
opposite Uranus on 12 Scorpio in 9th
widely conj. EROS-PRIAPUS on 14 Taurus near the IC on 15 Taurus

AGLAIA on 5 Pisces in 1st house
nothing of major importance, though VESTA is near on 2 Pisces,

THAIA on 19 Aquarius in 1st house
conj. PALLAS on 16 Aquarius wide
conj. OSiRIS on 21 Leo
opposite Sturn on 21 Leo
trine NN-AMOR-CUPIDO on 20 Libra
square MC on 16 Scorpio
square ALMA on 20 Taurus

DAVISON

CHARIS on 21 Libra right on 9th house cusp
conjunct NN on 21 Libra exact
opposite APHRODITE on 21 Aries
opposite LUST On 19 Aries
square Moon on 20 Cancer in 7th

EUPHROSYNE on 29 Pisces in 2nd house
square Sun in Gem in 6th
conj. KAALI on 28 Pisces

AGLAIA on 25 Leo in 7th house
exact conjunct ISIS-OSIRIS on 25 Leo as well!
conjunct Vertex exact
sextile Sun

posted August 19, 2014 11:22 AM            

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Originally posted by libran_dream:

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I think the graces must be an interesting thing to examine.
Here's a few case studies, from charts I have on-hand:

FAMILY
My brother has THALIA on Mercury(2), H1, Sag. I can't tell how that's coming out.

My mother has CHARIS opposite Lib Venus(1). I do know that she was really beautiful when young, her photos could have been in magazines, but she didn't "use it", wasn't aware of it.

My father has EUPHROSYNE opposite Leo Pluto(3). He will wear you down with jokes. He's always, seemingly, a joker in a good mood, but his jokes can be very cutting and mean. They're how he reveals his resentments.
Also CHARIS opposite Neptune in Libra. He is a very charismatic person, always has to be the life of the party. It can be very annoying when someone is not in the mood. I don't think he notices. Loves looking at photos and videos of himself. (Neptune-Charis?)

Cousin #1 has EUPHROSYNE on MercuryRx/Sun(3) in Virgo. She has very pretty eyes, shining. A bit unusual for a Virgo. She's not "magazine pretty", too withdrawn, but when you talk to her, her eyes shine with some kind of inner joy, which leaves you with an impression of a very sweet and pretty girl.

Cousin #2 has Leo CHARIS opposite Uranus in Aqu(1). Oh she is a charismatic one. She's the baby of the family, 2 older siblings, everyone seems to live for her. You will usually see her smiling. She also has Her Moon in Leo, though out of orb.

Cousin #3 has CHARIS on Gem Mars(3). She loves to joke around, and she's very engaging when she does. Her jokes are usually sharp, but well-meaning. I haven't noticed how that's come out with men in her life, as her husband was sort of meh. Her father was a really charismatic man, though.

Cousin #3's daughter has THALIA in Tau H1 opposite Pluto(1). Again, I don't know what that could signify.

Cousin #3's son has Gem AGLAJA(2)and Gem EUPHROSYNE(4) on Tau Sun, opposite Pluto. He is not especially pretty, but he is very vivacious and funny. You'll always see him laughing and joking around. He's a dancer, plans to do it professionally. CHARIS is opposite THALIA. (3)

Cousin #3's father(the very charismatic man), had Pis CHARIS on Ari Jupiter(3), which is opposite his Sun. No time of birth but he was almost a caricature of what a Jupiter man looks like so I assume this Charis-Jupiter has to be on/near AC. THALIA oppose Moon/Uranus(1).

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HISTORICAL
Napoleon: Mercury forms a Grand Kite with AGLAJA, EUPHROSYNE and THALIA. Vir CHARIS H11 trine Moon(0).

Robespierre, charismatic leader of the French Revolution: Gem CHARIS opposite Pluto(3), square Uranus(0°38'). Ari THALIA on Venus(2).

Saint Just, charismatic leader of the French Revolution: Gem CHARIS/THALIA trine Lib Venus(1). Unknown birth time, but he was considered very "pretty" at first impression so the Venus must be prominent.

Nicholas II Romanov, Czar of Russia, considered very good looking but not charismatic enough for his "job": Gem AGLAJA in H4, conjunct Mercury(3) and opposite Saturn(3). Mercury-Saturn is EXACTLY on the IC-MC Axis. Lib EUPHROSYNE in H8, opposite Mars(1). Vir CHARIS in H7, no major contact.

Anastasia Romanova, royalty killed in Russian Revolution, allegedly the most charismatic of the family: H12 Cancer CHARIS conjunct Sun(4) and Neptune(1), opposite Chiron(2). Virgo EUPHROSYNE right on IC(0). Letters and records show her to be a huge jokester in private, pulling practical jokes on everyone around on an almost daily basis. THALIA trine AGLAJA(0).

Control sample:
Kim Kardashian:
Leo CHARIS in H8 on NN(5: wide) but no other contacts. Hmmmmm.
Gem AGLAJA(r) in H7, trine Pluto/BML(3), Sun(3), square Moon(2).
Sco EUPHROSYNE in H11, on Mercury(1), square Nodal Axis.
Can THALIA in H7 square MC/Jupiter/Saturn, square Moon(3), trine Sun(3)

Excuse any typing errors! I went through these quite quickly.

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Thank you for this wonderful analysis!

I disagree a bit with you about Virgo eyes, I think it's distinctive for Virgos to have very bright, intelligent and shining eyes, and they usually shine when happy/in a good mood, like they lighten up.

My man has Euphrosyne conjunct Pluto almost exact. So you would interpret this as strong, a bit dark, mesmerizing sense of humor?

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posted August 19, 2014 12:27 PM            

CHARIS in Taurus in the 10th conjuncts Chiron (1 degree) and sextiles Venus in Cancer in 12th house, squares Merc/Jup in Leo in 1st house, semi-sextiles Mars in gemini in 11th, quincunx Pluto/IC in Libra, opposes Uranus in 4 in Scorpio, semisextile MC in Aries

THALIA in 9th in Pisces quincunxes my merc/Jupiter in Leo in 1st house, trines my venus in cancer in 12th house, trines Uranus in scorp in 4th house, squares Mars in Gemini in 11th house, and quinxunc Pluto/IC in Libra, semi-sextiles MC in Aries, loosely opposes NN/Saturn in virgo in the 2nd house

AGLAJ in pisces in the 8th, does not do much except opposing my NN/Saturn in the 2nd house, loosely trines my cancer venus in 12th, sesquisquares my Sun in cancer in 1st.

Okay, how great am I?

posted August 19, 2014 01:45 PM            

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Originally posted by Enneline:
EUPHROSYNE in Leo in the 2nd house conjuncts Regulus (2 degrees) and trines my moon in aries in the 10th house (2 degrees) and widely conjuncts lilith in 0 virgo (3 degrees)

Oh,my...when you're happy, you're really happy and know how to entertain, like a Queen. Is it so? Feeling valued or perhaps tangible things, related to the 2nd house, like money make you happy. You are generous and like to give royal gifts, and to receive too A bit of a darkish humor perhaps, with Lilith there? And some periods of depression?

CHARIS in Taurus in the 10th conjuncts Chiron (1 degree) and sextiles Venus in Cancer in 12th house, squares Merc/Jup in Leo in 1st house, semi-sextiles Mars in gemini in 11th, quincunx Pluto/IC in Libra, opposes Uranus in 4 in Scorpio, semisextile MC in Aries

Very aspected Charis, strong strong charisma which I already perceived in the photo and I think...you could be a healer with this combo. Even as a profession. healer or counselor/mediator.

THALIA in 9th in Pisces quincunxes my merc/Jupiter in Leo in 1st house, trines my venus in cancer in 12th house, trines Uranus in scorp in 4th house, squares Mars in Gemini in 11th house, and quinxunc Pluto/IC in Libra, semi-sextiles MC in Aries, loosely opposes NN/Saturn in virgo in the 2nd house

I think this Thalia is very spiritual, doesn't care much about material wealth, unless there is a charity ball

AGLAJ in pisces in the 8th, does not do much except opposing my NN/Saturn in the 2nd house, loosely trines my cancer venus in 12th, sesquisquares my Sun in cancer in 1st.
Dark beauty with a strong water flavor. Apparently you were born with a destiny/lessons related to that.
Okay, how great am I?

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posted August 19, 2014 01:57 PM            

My Aglaja in Aqua 1st conjunct Lilith (2) opp Moon (3) square Vesta exact. Trines Mercury exact. Sextiles NN/POF.

Euphrosyne in Libra 9th conjunct Valentine (2)square ASC/DSC (1) semisextiles Sun exact. I guess with this aspect love brings me a lot of joy (being in love) which is true.

Thalia in Cap 12th - hidden treasures perhaps? lol- square Mercury trine Venus widely (4) but sextiling Vesta and Juno/Jupiter. Hm...abundance is suggested later in life, perhaps in relation to a partner. A hermit period is also suggested.

posted August 19, 2014 02:08 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Any insight on Charis conjunct IC?

My Aglaja in Aqua 1st conjunct Lilith (2) opp Moon (3) square Vesta exact. Trines Mercury exact. Sextiles NN/POF.

Euphrosyne in Libra 9th conjunct Valentine (2)square ASC/DSC (1) semisextiles Sun exact. I guess with this aspect love brings me a lot of joy (being in love) which is true.

Thalia in Cap 12th - hidden treasures perhaps? lol- square Mercury trine Venus widely (4) but sextiling Vesta and Juno/Jupiter. Hm...abundance is suggested later in life, perhaps in relation to a partner. A hermit period is also suggested.

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Lilith conjunct IC? Either your home life has been dominated by a lilithish woman or you are like her when being at home

Aglaja: Again, this humanistic, spiritual ("witch-like") approach of life and People like you for doing so

Euphrosyne: yes, and I think that conf. shows that you love being in love

posted August 19, 2014 02:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Enneline:
Lilith conjunct IC? Either your home life has been dominated by a lilithish woman or you are like her when being at home

Aglaja: Again, this humanistic, spiritual ("witch-like") approach of life and People like you for doing so

Euphrosyne: yes, and I think that conf. shows that you love being in love

Thalia: I'd rather say that deep inside you have an unbreakable wealth of spiritual strength and that effects relationships of all kind positively

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Awww...thanks!

No, Charis conjunct IC...what do you think?

posted August 19, 2014 02:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Enneline:
Well, LeeLeo, I must admit that every assumption seems to be correct

Except my healing charisma: I've been told so but I don't know how I am I supposed to heal someone

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posted August 19, 2014 02:29 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I think you could try Reiki or massage or Aura healing??

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posted August 19, 2014 02:43 PM            

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Originally posted by Enneline:
I already offered that but noone made an appointment

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posted August 19, 2014 02:47 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Aglaja 47
Euphrosyne 31
Thalia 23 -

AGLAIA (or Aglaea) was the goddess of beauty, splendour, glory, magnificence and adornment. Aglaia was the wife of the god Hephaistos... She was also named Kharis (the Grace) and Kale (Beauty).

EUPHROSYNE was the goddess of good cheer, joy, mirth and merriment. In the mosaic right she is paired with Akratos, the celebratory spirit of unmixed wine.

THALIA was the goddess of festivity and rich, luxurious banquets.

Euphrosyne will show your capacity for happiness, joy, merriment and for spreading those around you. Euphrosyne in the chart is also a spot showing what brings you happiness and true joy, what makes you happy.

Thalia as the Grace of abundance, festivities and rich banquets I think makes her a possible Dyonisiac marker, for enjoying life in a Dionysiac way.

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From what I recall I have Charis at 20 Cancer on my Venus/Mars MP - but since it's with Nabokov and something otherwise dodgier and doesn't do much with anything as far as I could see, I never paid it much attention. I may have to soon though since someone's Eros parked itself there, so I may get some better idea/s of what it does or how. Charis in 12th house.

Otherwise the Graces were always mine, or strongly featured. Aglaja is conjunct my name asteroid, Ceres, Pomona, Varuna and more at 8 Gem, 1 opp Neptune. Thalia is conjunct my MC and Euphrosyne at 25 Scorpio conjunct my NN. I don't consider myself particularly charismatic, although since I'm tall and visible (and double Leo?) and don't always shy away from even butting in with conversations, I think I'm a bit more memorable than some people sometimes. *shrug* An unused potential I'd say, or potential for more than have thus far chosen to use.

As I've said before, the name Keela came to me as an idea from nowhere a bit before I joined here. It was only when I looked for its meaning that I discovered the "beauty" and Aglaea connection. The way these things work at times, my ending up using a board name that stems from Aglaja conjunct my actual name asteroid. I'm not on the particularly beautiful side, should you wonder. I get by but no classical beauty.

posted August 19, 2014 02:50 PM            

Apart form that, he has:

Aglaja conjunct Pallas (1) and Lilith (2) in Cap 4th - wow talk about loving intelligent, spiritual, warrior-like women lol and dark beauties. Aglaja also squares Uranus, 5th ruler - exotic, original beauty too. Sextile his DSC/Vertex/Karma. Apparently his partner will have these qualities for sure.

Euphrosyne conjunct Valentine/Lust (1) awwww self-explanatory. Euphrosine conjunct Pluto (1) - apart from Libran's interpr, I think it also means the person finds happiness in intensity, compulsion, obsession, adrenaline, intense thoufht/feelings with Pluto ruling 3rd and dispositing the Moon. The person find happiness in being in a Plutonian state. Euphrosine trines POF exact.
A great chance at happiness with this aspect, IMO.

Thalia square Vesta and Chiron....hm how shall I interpret that??

Thalia in Cap 4th sextile Moon in Sc exact.

What do you think about his Thalia aspects??

posted August 19, 2014 03:52 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Later in life because of the IC?

Charis is more about popularity than talents, BTW.
With Charis in Leo in the 12th you could be hugely popular or a hermit, hugely popular because Neptune is the actual lord of fascinating the masses.

I don't have to mention what is Leo's part in this

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Thanks for having faith in my charm Yes, because of the IC, especially if it's in the 4th house. It might take it some time to pop out of the womb, whatever it is.

posted August 19, 2014 05:31 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Charis in Gem 9th conjunct Ceres and in that GT makes me think of teaching. Are you a teacher of some sorts? You could even be a guru with this placement! Anyway, this shows you have your way with words, and...we have already noticed that here

Your Aglaja shows you must be very attractive, in a seductive/sensual way. The Jupiter square can even enhance that, on a physical level.

Euphrosyne shows you are good with groups of people, and you are caring and a good adviser, it completes your Charis aspects. It also shows me you are not happy if you don't have passion, perhaps even adrenaline, in your life. A collective, humanitarian cause would probably make you very happy.

Your Thalia is a bit austere, I don't think you're a huge fan of parties or banquets or luxury.

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I don't like gurus, not trying for that job. Everyone should be encouraged to think on their own, better to teach a person to ask the questions than teach them your answers.

I have a Sun-Saturn opposition that dampens all that wonderful attractiveness potential unfortunately.

You got Euphrosyne and Thalia bang on.

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Nice Idea!

Though I use Thalia as the muse of theatre.
as she is known as the muse of comedy.

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Thank you for this wonderful analysis!

I disagree a bit with you about Virgo eyes, I think it's distinctive for Virgos to have very bright, intelligent and shining eyes, and they usually shine when happy/in a good mood, like they lighten up.

My man has Euphrosyne conjunct Pluto almost exact. So you would interpret this as strong, a bit dark, mesmerizing sense of humor?

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Euphrosyne on Pluto would I think bring a pretty dark sense of humour, yes. Also someone who can point out deep, dark matters in his jokes. Also maybe someone who doesn't want to approach secretive, dark matters seriously.