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Selene
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posted September 06, 2014 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What matters most in a progressed synastry - progressed aspects all the way or progressed/natal aspects? what's your experience?

For example, A's progressed Venus conjuncts B's progressed Saturn exact, so they would both feel the fated inevitable feeling that binds them for better or worse. But in 2 years A's progressed Venus will eventually conjunct B's natal Saturn as well. Will the effect be different somehow or what? How would that work?

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posted September 06, 2014 02:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mir will be thrilled

I've always wanted to ask you about Venus/Saturn, Mir, and I always forget

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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

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posted September 06, 2014 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, me too, me too!

I have that aspect now in my synastry and i am dying to find out what would change and how.

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posted September 06, 2014 11:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn ended up in the trashcan here guys.

Binding?

don't let me laugh

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posted September 07, 2014 05:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What else then? Would you elaborate more?

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posted September 07, 2014 05:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
pVENUS conjunct nSUN (natal)
pSUN conjunct nVENUS (natal)
pVENUS conjunct nMARS (synastric)

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posted September 07, 2014 10:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes indeed.. ^ it's all about Sun/Venus/Mars in the form of strong conjunctions, trines and oppositions.

I just looked at the progressed synastry of Brangelina ( ) AND Jennifer Aniston & Justin Theroux which again an amazing and fulfilling trip through the progressions.

And I can assure u .. they'll both end up in the old peoples home together!

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posted September 07, 2014 10:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But i wanted to find out about - what matters most - progressed to progressed or progressed to natal?

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posted September 07, 2014 10:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Without a doubt, BOTH.

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Originally posted by mir:
Without a doubt, BOTH.

I agree with that.

I basically agree with Sun/Venus/Mars as well, though there seems to be exceptions to the rule, my parents being one of them.

When they met and got together (happening fast) they had:


pr Venus square n Sun exact


and

pr Mars square n ASC exact

pr Sun trine pr Moon exact
pr DESC conjunct pr Jupiter exact
pr MC square pr Venus exact
pr Vertex quindecile pr Mars exact
pr Avx conjunct pr SAturn exact (mom`s DESc-ruler)


pr Sun square n Vertex exact


my brother and his girlfriend:

pr Venus quindecile pr Mars exact
pr Venus semisquare n Sun exact
(pr Mars septile n Venus exact)
n Venus sesisquare pr Mars exact

pr Sun quindecile n Moon exact
pr Mars conjunct n ASC exact
pr Mars quindecile n Vertex exact
pr Vertex sesisquare n Venus exact

n Venus quindecile pr Vertex exact


pr Venus quinecile pr Vertex exact
pr Venus trine pr Jupiter exact
pr Pluto conjunct pr Vertex exact
pr Avx conjunct pr Sun exact

friends of mine
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(n Venus septile pr Sun exact)
n Mars biquintile pr Venus exact


pr DESC conjunct pr Saturn precise (0.00 orb - and Saturn being DESC-ruelr in this instance)

n Sun quindecile pr ASC exact (Sun being DESC-ruler)

n Pluto conjunct pr Sun exact
(the sparks really started to fly while they were rehearsing and performing a dance-duet to the song "Poison", which is the epitome of Pluto for me. lol)

n ASC quintile pr Mars exact

n MC square pr Saturn exact


another relationship
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pr Venus quintile pr Mars exact
(I suppose there must be a reason why Paul Westran includes thsi aspect in his reports nowadays)

pr Mercury sextile pr Venus exact (Mercury being DESC-ruler)

pr Mars square pr Mars exact

pr Jupiter opposite pr Sun exact

pr MC semisquare pr Sun exact

pr Venus conjunct n Jupiter exact

pr ASC square n Venus exact

pr ASC quindecile n Saturn exact
pr ASC quindecile n Pluto exact
(yes they were fated, at least for a time)


n Sun quintile pr Sun exact

n Mercury square pr Sun exact (DEsc-ruler)
n Mercury conjunct pr Saturn precisle (0.00)

n Venus sextile pr Mercury exact
n Mars quindecile pr Mercury exact


another couple
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p Mars sextile pr Venus exact (0.00 orb; also involves one person`s DESc-ruler)

pr Sun quindecile pr Vertex exact
pr Venus conjunct pr ASC exact


pr Mercury trine n Mars exact (DESC-ruler and ASC-ruler)
pr Mars trine n Mercury exact

pr DESC conjunct n Neptune exact
(this one was interesting as Neptune rules the DESC-person`s ASC)

Mercury quindecile pr Mars exact (DESC-ruler meets ASC-ruler again)

n Venus conjunct pr Avx exact


EDIT:
Personally I would at least add the ASC-DESC and the DESC-ruler to the check up.


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posted September 07, 2014 11:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mir:
Without a doubt, BOTH.

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posted July 15, 2017 04:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for racole12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One of my longest relationships didn't have any progressed to natal/Prog ASC/Venus/Mars/Sun aspects...


In our natal aspects we had: (all with 2 degrees)
Sun trine Venus double whammy
Venus sex Mars
Mars squ Sun


What triggered our relationship with Prog to Prog/natal was this:

When our relationship started his Prog Venus started to conj my Saturn, when we got engaged my Prog Venus was squ his Saturn... and when my Prog Venus squ his Saturn was separating by 1.35 that's when the relationship completely ended. From Oct 97- to Nov 03. None of the ideal Prog to natal/Prog ever showed up during the relationship.

I have had shorter relationships with the ideal Prog to natal/Prog that everybody dreams to see... sometimes when the natal synastry (with the Sun/Venus/Mars) is triggered is enough the start a relationship even if those progressions are hard Venus to Saturn aspects...

I have seen non conventional relationships (like a huge age difference) start with squared Prog to natal/Prog aspects bc that energy is needed for that relationship to start (enough energy to get them over a block).... BUT those couples have the sun/Venus/Mars/ASC already in their natal synastry together...

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posted July 15, 2017 04:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for racole12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted July 19, 2017 06:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mereiposa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How would the nAVertex conjunct pNN exact effect it?

There are others- pV exact square nVenus,
pSun exactly trine pSun
pMars conjunct nVenus
pMars trine nSun
pJuno exact conjunct nAsc
pVenus exact conjunct nUranus
pMoon trine exact pJuno
pSun exact trine pSaturn


But I am interested in the vertex axis and nodal axis in progressed synastry. Thanks!

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posted May 28, 2018 07:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
pVENUS conjunct nSUN (natal)
pSUN conjunct nVENUS (natal)
pVENUS conjunct nMARS (synastric)


I have this coming up with someone. My progressed Venus conjunct their natal Mars. Would this initiate anything?

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posted May 28, 2018 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariesdragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mir:
Yes indeed.. ^ it's all about Sun/Venus/Mars in the form of strong conjunctions, trines and oppositions.

I just looked at the progressed synastry of Brangelina ( ) AND Jennifer Aniston & Justin Theroux which again an amazing and fulfilling trip through the progressions.

And I can assure u .. they'll both end up in the old peoples home together!


They split up tho right?
https://people.com/movies/everything-we-know-about-jennifer-aniston-justin-therouxs-divorce/

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posted May 28, 2018 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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They split up tho right?
https://people.com/movies/everything-we-know-about-jennifer-aniston-justin-therouxs-divorce/

But I thought there had to be Moon aspects in the progressed charts for anything to happen. Not just Sun/Venus and Mars? Yeah they did break up this proves that just because someone says something will happen. Doesn't always mean it's true there is no way that anyone would know for sure that they would be together until old age.

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posted May 28, 2018 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariesdragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
But I thought there had to be Moon aspects in the progressed charts for anything to happen. Not just Sun/Venus and Mars? Yeah they did break up this proves that just because someone says something will happen. Doesn't always mean it's true there is no way that anyone would know for sure that they would be together until old age.

It seems so

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posted May 28, 2018 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariesdragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree

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posted May 28, 2018 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is 4 years ago guys whaha. No idea what I missed back then

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posted May 28, 2018 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 28, 2018 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ariesdragon:
It seems so


What seems so?

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posted May 28, 2018 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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This is 4 years ago guys whaha. No idea what I missed back then

Yeah but for the past few days, you've been telling me how things won't work out between the guy and I because we don't have Sun/Moon in a progressed chart. Yet you act as if Sun/Venus or Venus/Mars. Don't count in progressions when they actually do. Here you said so yourself so yeah...

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posted May 28, 2018 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariesdragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
What seems so?

Moon aspects for anything to happen? Then you added to your post so it looks confusing...No worries I was just agreeing.

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posted May 28, 2018 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ariesdragon:
Moon aspects for anything to happen? Then you added to your post so it looks confusing...No worries I was just agreeing.

Ok but what if you have Sun/Moon aspects in synastry, composite and the davsion chart but not the progressed chart? Don't those aspects in the synastry and other charts still count? Or are they irrelevant?

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