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Dancing Maenad
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posted September 09, 2014 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If a person is divorced (once), is the 9th house/9H ruler more important to be activated by synastry, or do you stick with the 7th?

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Vajra
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posted September 09, 2014 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vajra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
If a person is divorced (once), is the 9th house/9H ruler more important to be activated by synastry, or do you stick with the 7th?


I'd like to know that too. I have been divorced and have an empty 7th house, and my 7th house ruler (Venus) is located in the 9th house of all places! Have therefore been unable to disentangle all the implications of this question, which is somewhat frustrating. 9th house ruler is the Moon.

From what I have noticed so far, when I got together with the man I'm with now, transit Jupiter was exactly conjunct my 7th house cusp (which coincidentally falls exactly on his Pars Fortunae), and transit Venus was passing through my 7th house as well. So the 7th house definitely got activated strongly. In synastry, my 7th and 9th house rulers both receive a lot of close aspects from his planets, so, based on this one case, I would conclude that both houses can get activated about equally intensely by a new relationship in the case of divorced people. But then, this one example could of course be an exception...

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Dancing Maenad
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posted September 09, 2014 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, Vajra!!

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Ceridwen
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posted September 09, 2014 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
always the 7th, for meeting a marriage partner (9th house is showing the marriage to the environment).


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Blind writer
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posted September 09, 2014 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blind writer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It may have relevance as the 2nd spouse, but I'd also look to the other person's 7R in aspect, if they have not previously married. This is something requiring case studies of divorced and remarried couples.

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Aubyanne
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posted September 09, 2014 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm my husband's second wife, and his 7R is exactly conjunct my SUN, 0º10.

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Lotis White
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posted September 09, 2014 07:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've always wondered what the logic was for the 9th house being the house of a second marriage? Is there a theory behind it.

For example the 11th house of 'LOVE RECEIVED' makes sense due to the formula behind it... The 5th house is the house of 'LOVE EXPRESSED', and the 7th house is our 'MAIN PARTNER'... So the 5th house from the 7th house (the 11th house) represents love given from our partner to us, or otherwise 'LOVE RECEIVED'.

Here's another interesting one. The 5th house represents a 'SPECIAL PERSON' who is close to our hearts. Someone who inspires our love and who we adore/admire. And the 11th house from the from the 5th (the 3rd house) represents 'LOVE RECEIVED' by our 'SPECIAL PERSON' (Not necessarily by us). So, interestingly, the 3rd house can represent our 'ROMANTIC RIVALS' during the courtship phase of a relationship.

If someone else is after our boyfriend or girlfriend they are represented by the 3rd house. I suppose this could be true even after marriage if we particularly adore our spouse in a '5th house' kind of way.

Otherwise, after we are married, our partner's 'LOVE RECEIVED' house in our natal chart becomes our 5th house (11th house from the 7th house). This could be us because the 5th house is our house of 'LOVE EXPRESSED' anyway. However, if someone else is after our 'MAIN PARTNER' they could be represented by our 5th house. The 5th house is symbolically our partner's 11th house and shows those who fall in love with them.

(If anyone's ever been in a love triangle let me know how this works for you)

So I guess what I'm wondering is what the logic pathway is to say that the 9th house rules the second marriage partner. Does anyone know?

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cappy1277
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posted September 09, 2014 08:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cappy1277     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the logic of the 9th house being the 2nd marriage is because it is the 2nd house from the 7th and the 11th house will be the 3rd marriage and because it is the 3rd house from the 9th house....and so on.

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posted September 09, 2014 08:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blind writer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's the same as multiple siblings. The eldest represented by the 3H, then the second oldest represented by the 5H, third by the 7H, etc. Or children. Oldest by the 5H, second child by the 7H, etc. Turning by two houses represents the "next in line".

First I've seen it applied to spouses though, but it stands to reason the principle should still work. Still think it needs case studies, though.

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posted September 10, 2014 12:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
7th, its ruler, or placements in the 7th

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Dancing Maenad
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posted September 10, 2014 06:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you all for the answers!

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