posted September 23, 2014 10:29 AM            

What is the configuration in your chart, I'm not getting it? Whose Atropos on whose name asteroid, which houses and are there any major conjunctions?

posted September 24, 2014 05:14 AM            

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Originally posted by libran_dream:
I've come to see Atropos as a place where you want to end things once and for all, and it is a powerful, overwhelming drive. Almost like you're on a mission.

What is the configuration in your chart, I'm not getting it? Whose Atropos on whose name asteroid, which houses and are there any major conjunctions?

Personal example of Atropos functioning in charts: I have Atropos conjunct Karma in my natal, and in a romantic synastry, I have it opposite to his own natal Atropos conjunct Karma. I feel very strongly about bad patterns ending once and for all between the two of us, and I dedicate myself to making that happen.

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Sorry for the confusion , its exact conj. to my my Name asteroid in my chart in the 4th house, 8 degree's Libra the only exact sq. it makes is to Venus/Nessus at 8 degrees cancer in the 1st.
The only pattern I have noticed is that when Saturn makes a difficult aspect (conj. opp. sq.) endings occur.

posted September 24, 2014 07:06 AM            

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Originally posted by libran_dream:
I've come to see Atropos as a place where you want to end things once and for all, and it is a powerful, overwhelming drive. Almost like you're on a mission.

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Thank you for posting and Thank you Libran Dream for your interpretation.

Atropos sits at 15:43' Virgo a wide orb to my IC at 20:03'. I grew up repeating vowing to myself that the abuse ends with me none of children will go through what I did.

posted September 24, 2014 02:05 PM            

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Originally posted by libran_dream:
I've come to see Atropos as a place where you want to end things once and for all, and it is a powerful, overwhelming drive. Almost like you're on a mission.

What is the configuration in your chart, I'm not getting it? Whose Atropos on whose name asteroid, which houses and are there any major conjunctions?

Personal example of Atropos functioning in charts: I have Atropos conjunct Karma in my natal, and in a romantic synastry, I have it opposite to his own natal Atropos conjunct Karma. I feel very strongly about bad patterns ending once and for all between the two of us, and I dedicate myself to making that happen.

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This is true, but rather than end let's say 'gain closure'. There's a powerful inevitability, and whatever has had you locked in a cycle, you want OUT.

posted September 24, 2014 02:06 PM            

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Originally posted by olgatheo:

The only pattern I have noticed is that when Saturn makes a difficult aspect (conj. opp. sq.) endings occur.

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posted September 24, 2014 02:59 PM            

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Originally posted by libran_dream:
I've come to see Atropos as a place where you want to end things once and for all, and it is a powerful, overwhelming drive. Almost like you're on a mission.

What is the configuration in your chart, I'm not getting it? Whose Atropos on whose name asteroid, which houses and are there any major conjunctions?

Personal example of Atropos functioning in charts: I have Atropos conjunct Karma in my natal, and in a romantic synastry, I have it opposite to his own natal Atropos conjunct Karma. I feel very strongly about bad patterns ending once and for all between the two of us, and I dedicate myself to making that happen.

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Interesting concept, LD. Somehow like having a radical attitude where one's Atropos lies?Experiencing purging, annihilation/regeneration?
My Atropos is in Cap 12th, 6 drg from ASC, opp Saturn. To me, it looks like important fate. Square Mercury - perhaps some radical views/ the power of words to kill and give birth? I think so. Also my Chiron in my 3rd - it relates to that.

Star of David: made of Atropos - Juno/Jupiter - IC -Saturn - Aphrodite (Sun/Venus mdp) - MC. I think in this case it's just a config pointing to a fated partner, a "turning point" partner. I see Atropos also as a crossroad, when things end for others to begin. A rite of passage is also connected to Atropos, me thinks.

I think your concept applies wonderfully to synastry: the Atropos partner will change the patterns of behavior/views/values/opinions related to the planets of the other.

In synastry, my Atropos is falling in his 4th house: I may bring change in this area for him, facilitate endings/beginnings. His Atropos in my 12th. My Atropos squares his Vesta, trines his Amor sextiles his Moon. His Atropos squares my Mars, trines my Amor.

posted September 24, 2014 03:56 PM            

ATROPOS is where they must. Follow?

Being ATROPOS, we can see how its present location is a reflection of past karmic patterns that are working in undercurrents. Thus, delving more deeply into the roots, we look to the Draco.

Heh. Back when I was first uncovering the importance of ATROPOS in a particular synastry, it took a LOT to try and understand its many nuances.

I've come to indeed see ATROPOS as the conclusion of what was begun with KLOTHO. Likewise, LACHESIS is the point at where that which can lead to the Atroposian conclusion is introduced. The intervention. The decision. The Lachesisian Choice, if you will.

They work elegantly in tandem together. The trick is understanding HOW, as it's the root of the karmic pattern in a synastry where it's been confirmed. It was the first step in my beginning to truly understand multidimensionality in an astrological context, too.

But, yes, Draconic links to nATROPOS are tremendously insightful. Just as drATROPOS is the root of what must be stopped. drKLOTHO is how it began then; KLOTHO is how it's persisting now in the present, nLACHESIS is the opportunity to find closure, or stop the pattern, and nATROPOS is where we may conclude it once and for all.

posted September 25, 2014 06:38 AM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
LACHESIS is the crossroads. It's a pattern-interrupt or an intervention. This is where things CAN change.

ATROPOS is where [b]they must. Follow?

Being ATROPOS, we can see how its present location is a reflection of past karmic patterns that are working in undercurrents. Thus, delving more deeply into the roots, we look to the Draco.

Heh. Back when I was first uncovering the importance of ATROPOS in a particular synastry, it took a LOT to try and understand its many nuances.

I've come to indeed see ATROPOS as the conclusion of what was begun with KLOTHO. Likewise, LACHESIS is the point at where that which can lead to the Atroposian conclusion is introduced. The intervention. The decision. The Lachesisian Choice, if you will.

They work elegantly in tandem together. The trick is understanding HOW, as it's the root of the karmic pattern in a synastry where it's been confirmed. It was the first step in my beginning to truly understand multidimensionality in an astrological context, too.

But, yes, Draconic links to nATROPOS are tremendously insightful. Just as drATROPOS is the root of what must be stopped. drKLOTHO is how it began then; KLOTHO is how it's persisting now in the present, nLACHESIS is the opportunity to find closure, or stop the pattern, and nATROPOS is where we may conclude it once and for all.

Elegant.[/B]

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posted September 25, 2014 06:40 AM            

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Originally posted by carm76:
Thank you for posting and Thank you Libran Dream for your interpretation.

Atropos sits at 15:43' Virgo a wide orb to my IC at 20:03'. I grew up repeating vowing to myself that the abuse ends with me none of children will go through what I did.

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posted September 25, 2014 08:43 AM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
This is true, but rather than [b]end let's say 'gain closure'. There's a powerful inevitability, and whatever has had you locked in a cycle, you want OUT.

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THIS

posted September 26, 2014 04:59 AM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
This is true, but rather than end let's say 'gain closure'. There's a powerful inevitability, and whatever has had you locked in a cycle, you want OUT.

I have many ATROPOS links with my Guardian Soulmate. Clear evidence that we're both here to end a very long-standing karmic cycle.

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Thank you so much for the Draconis suggestion. I've been a Greek Mythology geek since I was 4 years old(my very first non-picture book ), and in the past 10 years, I got very much into the Fates, Graces and Erinyes. Erinyes were my primary focus. I was thrilled when I found out I can actually incorporate them into astrology through asteroids.

But enough about that. Anyway, I checked my Draconic placements, and in synastry, I found
that my dAtropos is exact on his Union and exactly opposed to his Lust. His dAtropos is exactly opposite my Moon. I have to admit that I started laughing and was still laughing half an hour later. That is so incredibly, alarmingly, mind-blowingly accurate.
I have honestly not had my mind blown by astrology this much in literally years.

So thanks for the suggestion. I would not have seen things so sharply without that instruction. Definitely a research direction that can use study!

posted September 26, 2014 06:57 AM            

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Originally posted by libran_dream:

I like "gain closure" better as a term, it puts some rationality back into it. Though in my perception, Atropos is not a very kind energy and the aspect itself doesn't see it that way. Closure schmosure, Atropos thinks. If you can get a hold of it enough, soften it and rationalize it enough, connect it with other influences, then you can gain closure out of it and make it work for you. But in its raw state, I think Atropos is just out to cut things, without care for any after-effects.

Thank you so much for the Draconis suggestion. I've been a Greek Mythology geek since I was 4 years old(my very first non-picture book ), and in the past 10 years, I got very much into the Fates, Graces and Erynies. Erynies were my primary focus. I was thrilled when I found out I can actually incorporate them into astrology through asteroids.

But enough about that. Anyway, I checked my Draconic placements, and in synastry, I found
that my dAtropos is exact on his Union and exactly opposed to his Lust. His dAtropos is exactly opposite my Moon. I have to admit that I started laughing and was still laughing half an hour later. That is so incredibly, alarmingly, mind-blowingly accurate.
I have honestly not had my mind blown by astrology this much in literally years.

So thanks for the suggestion. I would not have seen things so sharply without that instruction. Definitely a research direction that can use study!

Btw, I'd like to hear your thoughts in your last thread where I suggested Pluto transits as a possible cause for the developments in your relationship. [/B]

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Yes, Atropos is cutting the thread, so definitely a turning point (an ending, a crossroad). Lachesis is the more "peaceful" part of the Fates: it relates more to the "best" part (in a relationship, how the "thread of the story", the story, looks like, between the beginning and the end)

LD, would you like to do a thread on the Erinyes in relationships? It would be most interesting!

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posted September 27, 2014 05:34 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Yes, Atropos is cutting the thread, so definitely a turning point (an ending, a crossroad). Lachesis is the more "peaceful" part of the Fates: it relates more to the "best" part (in a relationship, how the "thread of the story", the story, looks like, between the beginning and the end)

LD, would you like to do a thread on the Erinyes in relationships? It would be most interesting!

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posted September 27, 2014 12:57 PM            

In synastry -
His Atropos/mars/Eros is conj. My moon-
exact...could explain the miscarriage ...but I put that on the MOON/SATURN/URANUS conj. in his chart +
And my BML/MARS/MOON conj.
He did have a difficult time with Women in his life,before me. Very unstable relations with women, even his sister left at 19 to become a Nun and his Mum is a cancer survivor .

posted September 27, 2014 01:55 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Yes, Atropos is cutting the thread, so definitely a turning point (an ending, a crossroad). Lachesis is the more "peaceful" part of the Fates: it relates more to the "best" part (in a relationship, how the "thread of the story", the story, looks like, between the beginning and the end)

LD, would you like to do a thread on the Erinyes in relationships? It would be most interesting!

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Ohhhh, no. LACHESIS is hardly peaceful. We've seen her pop up way too often in death charts and instances where anything 'death'-related is involved. Strange, because we'd expect to see ATROPOS doing this. Alas, another brilliant hypothesis down the drain.

Instead, I've compromised the two. I see LACHESIS as a potent force of change. This is intervention. While the 'measurement' could be the events that take place, let's not forget WHAT measurement IS: a determining factor which eventually encompasses an end. She just leaves the actual 'ending' to her sister. ATROPOS does not do the actual selecting, however. LACHESIS handles that.

Think of it in wetworks terms, and it'll click more efficiently. LACHESIS issues the kill order; ATROPOS is just the triggerman. A glorified cosmic hitter. In essence, this was not decided on ATROPOS' part, but LACHESIS'. In the typical Moirai terms, it's hardly so violent, of course. Standard operating procedure. KLOTHO's given the go-ahead for life -- the thing (person, concept, entity of whatever sort) to be born, created, come into existence -- after which LACHESIS determines how things will go down in regard to this thing, comes to a point at which it's decided there's an ending, upon which ATROPOS is employed and cuts the thread.

ATROPOS is going to give us context clues into the how, though -- potentially even the why, but not the when, oddly enough. That's all LACHESIS, and in my experience, she's hardly peaceful by default. ATROPOS, on the other hand, is acting more out of protocol.

It knows that THIS is where the thread should be cut, and it gets to determine HOW that's to be done. This is why I consider it 'closure'. It brings the ending, no doubt, but only because LACHESIS has deemed it so.

posted September 27, 2014 02:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Ohhhh, no. LACHESIS is hardly peaceful. We've seen her pop up way too often in death charts and instances where anything 'death'-related is involved. Strange, because we'd expect to see ATROPOS doing this. Alas, another brilliant hypothesis down the drain.

Instead, I've compromised the two. I see LACHESIS as a potent force of change. This is intervention. While the 'measurement' could be the events that take place, let's not forget WHAT measurement IS: a determining factor which eventually encompasses an [b]end. She just leaves the actual 'ending' to her sister. ATROPOS does not do the actual selecting, however. LACHESIS handles that.

Think of it in wetworks terms, and it'll click more efficiently. LACHESIS issues the kill order; ATROPOS is just the triggerman. A glorified cosmic hitter. In essence, this was not decided on ATROPOS' part, but LACHESIS'. In the typical Moirai terms, it's hardly so violent, of course. Standard operating procedure. KLOTHO's given the go-ahead for life -- the thing (person, concept, entity of whatever sort) to be born, created, come into existence -- after which LACHESIS determines how things will go down in regard to this thing, comes to a point at which it's decided there's an ending, upon which ATROPOS is employed and cuts the thread.

ATROPOS is going to give us context clues into the how, though -- potentially even the why, but not the when, oddly enough. That's all LACHESIS, and in my experience, she's hardly peaceful by default. ATROPOS, on the other hand, is acting more out of protocol.

It knows that THIS is where the thread should be cut, and it gets to determine HOW that's to be done. This is why I consider it 'closure'. It brings the ending, no doubt, but only because LACHESIS has deemed it so.

As you can imagine, I've recently been studying (and meditating upon) these points in great depth. They're crucial to my own destiny in many ways, and I'm definitely to understand them more thoroughly. They hold the keys to many mysteries that befuddle us.[/B]

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posted September 27, 2014 02:26 PM            

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Originally posted by libran_dream:
That's an interesting take on Lachesis. My knowledge on the Erinyes is mostly literary, I haven't done an astrological study on them yet, other than just messing around with my own chart and a few others. I might in the future! But for sure these are not asteroids you want on vital places in a romantic relationship. It would make things very dramatic.

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:: raises hand ::

Yes. Yes, it does.

Though, to be fair, it helps that all the murder, revenge killing, retaliation, and tormenting is happening 'off-screen', shall we say. But wherever the Erinyes figure in your astrology, ohhhh, yes. They're there for a reason. You just have to figure it out.

In my case, I didn't REALLY want to accept his TISIPHONE-HADES on my CHIRON-PREY. (Would YOU?) Most people would look at that and go, ' ... whaaaa?' Alas, I am not most people, and I was given 'the script' back in 2001, so that I'd have a clue in hell how to understand this madness.

His TISIPHONE-HADES 'dates back' to a part of his essential nature in which he cannot tolerate evil and has an overwhelming desire to destroy it. (Say it with me now: it's a REALLY good thing this man has such incredible self-control.) Now, it's one thing to see it hanging out in someone's chart as a piece of their personality, operational or not, (in his case, operating 'elsewhere' and being included in his fiction here).

It's another to have it right on your friggin' CHIRON.

I thought two things when I first saw that, a few months ago. The first was, 'OH, OF COURSE!' and the second was, ' ... Wait a minute ... No. NO! That's ... that's NOT possible -- THESE THINGS DO NOT HAPPEN.' (If you're curious as to what 'these things' are, check out this thread sometime. It'd be entertaining, if it wasn't my life.)

You might say I went through the stages of grief: denial, rage, bargaining, and finally acceptance. That last one wavers. It's more akin to how cool I am with feeling completely crazy at the moment. Because these things don't happen in reality. At least, they're not supposed to.

So, his TISIPHONE-HADES on my CHIRON is exactly what you'd think it means. But as to WHY -- that's more complicated. Part of me is wondering if I may find the answers in ...

:: forehead slap ::

... in LACHESIS.

Oh, Jesus, I'm crying. It's because I'm hormonal! I swear it!

... But I'm still crying.

Confirmation SUCKS.

Ow. His SUN. Ow, ow, ow, ow.

posted September 27, 2014 02:29 PM            

Eh. Gotta face it sometime, right?

Who wants to bet tATROPOS is making fun aspects to my chart today?

... Yep. 22 Libra. On my PLUTO, his MARS, and our ASC-DESTINN-URA.

posted September 27, 2014 02:38 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
So, yeah. LD. If you want to work on that thread together now, I'm good. TISIPHONE and I are likethis, despite my really not being so sure how I feel about that.

Eh. Gotta face it sometime, right?

Who wants to bet tATROPOS is making fun aspects to my chart today?

... Yep. 22 Libra. On my PLUTO, his MARS, and our ASC-DESTINN-URA.

Shocker.

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posted September 27, 2014 02:55 PM            

LACHESIS is the determiner of destiny; it measures the thread and decides when and where it shall be cut. But not HOW. It DOES encompass the WHY, however.

I'm not going to go so far as to say LACHESIS needs to be deemed 'where we meet our death'. This is karmic patterning, rather than so literal. In our lives, LACHESIS is the intervener -- the one which comes forth and says, 'THIS MUST CHANGE'. ATROPOS will then show us HOW that's going to be done. LACHESIS gives us the when and the why.

Like all things in astrology, there are dimensions: the way it's working here, and the way it's working in terms of undercurrents and karmic history. So KLOTHO gives us what we came in with, LACHESIS gives us greater detail about that karma, combined with where change (intervention, interruption) needs to happen -- or is happening -- in order to stop a pattern, whereas ATROPOS shows what pattern is to be stopped; what cycle we're trying to break.

But LACHESIS tends to have another operation in regards to death charts. She pops up rather frequently. Since hers is the energy which defines the why and the when, but not the how, it's proven oddly useful in clarifying 'cause of death', or even motive for murder.

And, alas, to see TISIPHONE there with my LACHESIS, as I've always known her to be, mostly off by themselves, only called to my attention by the presence of his SUN ...

We'll just say it's illuminating. And, oddly on-the-mark.

I think how these asteroids work in concert really is a beautiful symmetry and chronology, but it's crucial that they be properly applied -- in both tropical and Draco.

Presently, I'm seeing the aforementioned pattern unfold; summarised here:

DrLACHESIS shows us why we've brought nKLOTHO in with us, which drKLOTHO further defines in a more focussed fashion: karma that begun in the recent past.

Again, drLACHESIS will show how that karma is continuing in the present.

nLACHESIS shows us were a karmic intervention or sequence interrupt is taking place. This can also provide context clues into the karma that's operating, with its roots better defined in the Draco points and their interaspects.

nATROPOS is the neon sign which points to WHAT must be stopped. A cycle that needs to conclude, karmically speaking. What must end, and for what we're seeking closure. The reasons WHY it must end, and circumstances surrounding that 'decision' is handled however by nLACHESIS.

DrATROPOS remains a bit of a mystery; just as drLACHESIS describes the karmic condition brought forth by nKLOTHO, drATROPOS may have an interrelationship which surprises me. It may merely show the circumstances around the ending of the relationship -- if a synastry -- or the individual, in a natal -- in the most recent lifetime or series of them. Indeed, it may detail HOW a pattern completed -- but not why. (That's LACHESIS.)

posted September 27, 2014 02:57 PM            

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Originally posted by olgatheo:
Hope you feel better, You do so much for everyone here!

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Thanks, Olga. Oh, I'll be fine. It's just been one helluva catharsis, this transit of configurations I've been under. But, it's bringing clarity; and with that, a greater strength and galvanisation of purpose.

posted September 27, 2014 03:24 PM            

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Originally posted by olgatheo:
That makes sense , My Lachesis is in the 5th , and his Pluto in Scorpio conj. that exact ! Explains the problems I had , with the miscarriage , Saturn transit was conj. exact...
Helps that Lachesis trines my Venus .

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Oh, dear. Yes, the combined influence of SATURN and LACHESIS is a heavily karmic aspect, in whatever respect. Scorpio, dealing with reproduction and birth / death / rebirth -- the cyclical nature of things -- in one's 5H is definitely going to have a karmic pattern relating to fits and starts regarding pregnancy and creativity.

His PLUTO there, however, adds another dimension. I'd have to see how his PLUTO is operating, but it's the great transformer, after all. But as LACHESIS is a pattern change, unless you have a point tightly aspecting it natally, his PLUTO is likely what's activating it. Again, his PLUTO would reveal more as to why. The exactness is why I'm considering it viable. PLUTO, after all, is largely generational, despite being powerful. Thus, it an aspect you'd have with many; more indicative of your karma, which is instead being handed over to another actor to play the role. It's the exact orb of the aspect that's indicative of his 'being cast' in said role; why him. COULD be he shares this karma, but we'd need to see the other aspects and Fate points to make that determination.

KLOTHO, especially, as it's the creation of life. cKLOTHO, I'm thinking, as it's the literal convergence, your mutual life-giving and creative energy. 5H is always tricky; whether it's indicating the creation of children or brain-children. Look to CERES for more clues in regards to mothering and whether it's looking literal.

posted September 27, 2014 03:37 PM            

So let me have a look here:

"DrLACHESIS shows us why[/i] we've brought nKLOTHO in with us"

n KLOTHO: 17 Cap in 2nd house
(The Union Jack Flag Files From A British Warship)

opposite Saturn exact
sextile Juno exact
quinkunx Karma exact
trine Pandora

Dr Lachesis: 13 Virgo in tropical 9th
conj. tropical PErsephone exact
conj. tropical Shroedinger. LOL (you made me look it up today)

(An Aristocratic Family Tree)

conj. tropial Pandora on 16 Virgo

opposing Jupiter on 11 PIsces and Juno on 16 PIsces, hence being on the Juno/Jupiter-mp

", which drKLOTHO further defines in a more focussed fashion: karma that begun in the recent past."

Dr Klotho: 7°04 Taurus
(A Sleigh On Land Uncovered By Snow)

which almost made me fall off my chair!

in tropical I have:
Lucifer: 6°50 Taurus
Actor: 7°31 Taurus
Part of Marriage: 7°55 Taurus
Eros/Psyche-mp: 7°31 Taurus

"nLACHESIS shows us were a [b]karmic intervention or sequence interrupt is taking place. This can also provide context clues into the karma that's operating, with its roots better defined in the Draco points and their interaspects."

n Lachesis: 24°04 Taurus
(A Vast Public Park)

hyp. Hades: 22°42 Taurus
Ulysses: 24°51 Taurus

"nATROPOS is the neon sign which points to WHAT must be stopped. A cycle that needs to conclude, karmically speaking. What must end, and for what we're seeking closure."

n Atropos: 19°49 Aquarius
(A Large White Dove Bearing A Message)
Dr Union: 19°40 Aquarius
Dr hyp Cupido: 19°15 Aquarius)
tr Dionysos: 20°12 Aquarius

tropical Cupido (ast)19°55 Leo

"DrATROPOS remains a bit of a mystery; just as drLACHESIS describes the karmic condition brought forth by nKLOTHO, drATROPOS may have an interrelationship which surprises me. It may merely show the circumstances around the ending of the relationship -- if a synastry -- or the individual, in a natal -- in the most recent lifetime or series of them. Indeed, it may detail HOW a pattern completed "

Dr Atropos: 9°39 Gemini
(An Airplane Performing A Nose Dive)

n SN: 10°09 Gem
n DESC: 7°01 gem
n Kronos: 10°12 gem

n Neptune 9°56 Sag (Dr Cupido 9.45 Sag)
n Atlantis 8°15 Sag
n Lust 7°43 Sag
n Angel 7°31 Sag

10 Gemini (SN and Kronos)
ewly Opened Lands Offer The Pioneer New Opportunities For Experience

7 sag:
ASC, Angel, Lust
Within The Depths Of The Earth New Elements Are Being Formed

9 Sag
Neptune, Dr Cupido, mean NN
A Theatrical Representation Of A Golden-Haired Goddess Of Opportuinity

posted September 28, 2014 06:36 AM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
:: raises hand ::

Yes. Yes, it does.

Though, to be fair, it helps that all the murder, revenge killing, retaliation, and tormenting is happening 'off-screen', shall we say. But wherever the Erinyes figure in your astrology, ohhhh, yes. They're there for a reason. You just have to figure it out.

In my case, I didn't REALLY want to accept his TISIPHONE-HADES on my CHIRON-PREY. (Would YOU?) Most people would look at that and go, ' ... whaaaa?' Alas, I am not most people, and I was given 'the script' back in 2001, so that I'd have a clue in hell how to understand this madness.

His TISIPHONE-HADES 'dates back' to a part of his essential nature in which he cannot tolerate evil and has an overwhelming desire to destroy it. (Say it with me now: it's a REALLY good thing this man has such incredible self-control.) Now, it's one thing to see it hanging out in someone's chart as a piece of their personality, operational or not, (in his case, operating 'elsewhere' and being included in his fiction here).

It's another to have it right on your friggin' CHIRON.

I thought two things when I first saw that, a few months ago. The first was, 'OH, OF COURSE!' and the second was, ' ... Wait a minute ... No. NO! That's ... that's NOT possible -- THESE THINGS DO NOT HAPPEN.' (If you're curious as to what 'these things' are, check out this thread sometime. It'd be entertaining, if it wasn't my life.)

You might say I went through the stages of grief: denial, rage, bargaining, and finally acceptance. That last one wavers. It's more akin to how cool I am with feeling completely crazy at the moment. Because these things don't happen in reality. At least, they're not supposed to.

So, his TISIPHONE-HADES on my CHIRON is exactly what you'd think it means. But as to WHY -- that's more complicated. Part of me is wondering if I may find the answers in ...

:: forehead slap ::

... in LACHESIS.

Oh, Jesus, I'm crying. It's because I'm hormonal! I swear it!

... But I'm still crying.

Confirmation SUCKS.

Ow. His SUN. Ow, ow, ow, ow.

All right, enough blathering. I'll return us to our regularly scheduled Atroposian programming as soon as I take a few deep breaths and a walk.

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I really like how you break things down, have you been considering writing a paper on the Furies/Fates for formal publication? There might even be a book there. I'll preorder.