posted September 30, 2014 06:06 AM            

Although, Juno seems fairly accurate in telling you what kind of spouse you'd realistically end up with.

posted September 30, 2014 01:58 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by a_may_gemini:
Juno is an asteroid which basically means nothing as it is NOT a planet which means it cannot bounce light (aspects) to others.

Although, Juno seems fairly accurate in telling you what kind of spouse you'd realistically end up with.

To me, yes, I think Saturn can totally seal the deal because it's the planet of consequence, as it is ruled by social means, and places judgements and values upon propriety.

---

Thank you for replying. I've been asking about this one particular relationship. But no one seems to be interested in helping me look at the charts. Would you mind looking at them and giving me your thoughts?

posted September 30, 2014 04:56 PM            

My question is simple really, I wonder if he "feels" the attraction as much as I do?

In his natal chart he has an unaspected venus...

My mercury and jupiter square his venus and my vertex is perfectly conjunct his venus.

We have lots of saturn aspects. His saturn and uranus are square my moon (under 1 degree) but his jupiter also trines my moon nicely. My saturn/DC is conjunct his Sun/Vertex and trine his mars.

His sun trines my moon/ venus/ mars.

We also, both have pisces moons but they are not conjunct. But there seems to be a lot of asteroid action. My Pallas/Venus is conjunct his MC and my Psyche is conjunct his moon/north node. My moon is also conjunct his mars, but his mars is in aries. My moon is at the end of pisces, his mars is at 2degree aries.

And his Pallas is exactly conjunct my Sun. Like I said lots of asteroids. Not sure if it means anything.

The house overlays seem really interesting too.
His sun falls into my 7th house, his moon into my 11th
My moon/mars/venus/pallas/psyche/eros fall into his 9th/10th. My sun/jupiter falls into his 8th house, my mercury into his seventh. And his sun/moon midpoint is 1 degree conjunct my mercury.

That's the rough sketch. I'm just wondering if this is going to be one of those one sided attraction relationships?

posted September 30, 2014 04:59 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by a_may_gemini:
I have a rule that I don't look at people's charts when I do not know the persons. I'm quite moral about it, simply because natal charts shows everything about that person and I don't want to invest energy in making judgement calls on strangers. Very rarely will I even look at charts of unknown persons when my friends show them to me and ask for my opinions. That's only because I'm doing it as a favor for a friend...but even that can zap my energy.

I don't mind giving some general thoughts with what questions you have, but I won't look at the charts.

---

i understand about how exhausting that can be... side note: have you ever heard of human design?

posted October 03, 2014 08:35 AM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by scropiojunkie85:
i understand about how exhausting that can be... side note: have you ever heard of human design?

---

Yes, I'm a Pisces Moon. It's quite scary how I can invest all my energy into things that may not even be relevant to me. I've learned to call the shots better as I get older, but alas, Rome was not built in a day!

posted October 03, 2014 08:56 AM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by scropiojunkie85:
Oh I can respect that, that is actually very noble of you.

My question is simple really, I wonder if he "feels" the attraction as much as I do?

In his natal chart he has an unaspected venus...

My mercury and jupiter square his venus and my vertex is perfectly conjunct his venus.

We have lots of saturn aspects. His saturn and uranus are square my moon (under 1 degree) but his jupiter also trines my moon nicely. My saturn/DC is conjunct his Sun/Vertex and trine his mars.

His sun trines my moon/ venus/ mars.

We also, both have pisces moons but they are not conjunct. But there seems to be a lot of asteroid action. My Pallas/Venus is conjunct his MC and my Psyche is conjunct his moon/north node. My moon is also conjunct his mars, but his mars is in aries. My moon is at the end of pisces, his mars is at 2degree aries.

And his Pallas is exactly conjunct my Sun. Like I said lots of asteroids. Not sure if it means anything.

The house overlays seem really interesting too.
His sun falls into my 7th house, his moon into my 11th
My moon/mars/venus/pallas/psyche/eros fall into his 9th/10th. My sun/jupiter falls into his 8th house, my mercury into his seventh. And his sun/moon midpoint is 1 degree conjunct my mercury.

That's the rough sketch. I'm just wondering if this is going to be one of those one sided attraction relationships?

Thank you .

---

LOL noble! My mother would rather describe me as "lazy" and "impatient" for my refusal to do anything!

I probably should give a fair warning, as I do have a LOT of Air planets (6 out of 10) and even a lot of my asteroids such as Pallas (Gemini exactly conjunct Mercury) is Airy so I easily can come off as a nonchalant jerk with what I say. Know that I'm not making fun of you or whatever, just presenting what I see from my stranger's lenses.

My answer to your question as to him "feeling" strongly about you as you do to him is that it's anyone's guess. Ask an 8 ball and it'll probably give you a better answer than me. The truth is, feeling is very subjective and what you information you give about him will color how he's presented, in another words, he's presented through your lenses. There's no true objectivity about him, so I cannot give you an objective answer. Besides, how can I compare what he "feels" vs how you "feel?" Feelings are private and very personal, and most of all, intangible, no matter how well articulated.

That being said, I'm a big advocate of Occam's razor and doing a bit of sleuthing to fish out more clues as I think action means more than anything else. But you probably don't want to outright ask him how he feels about you cuz that could just be awkward.

My standpoint is, synastry is not the be all to end all. Some people have great synastry and never get further than a hello. Some people have horrid synastry and they're married for life. I didn't have synastry with my ex husband, let alone any kind of synastry that showed that we were destined to have met and married. And yet, we were together for a very long time, considering we divorced at 27... For goodness sake's, his Venus was in my 12th house and that's considered to a "clandestine" love. HAHAHAHAHAHA YEAH, I had a clandestine marriage with him of which everyone knew we were together!!

Ok, hopefully, you're getting where I'm going with all of this in such a round-about way.

posted October 04, 2014 08:49 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by a_may_gemini:
Juno is an asteroid which basically means nothing as it is NOT a planet which means it cannot bounce light (aspects) to others.

Although, Juno seems fairly accurate in telling you what kind of spouse you'd realistically end up with.

To me, yes, I think Saturn can totally seal the deal because it's the planet of consequence, as it is ruled by social means, and places judgements and values upon propriety.

---

posted October 09, 2014 01:22 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by a_may_gemini:
Juno is an asteroid which basically means nothing as it is NOT a planet which means it cannot bounce light (aspects) to others.

---

Asteroids can most definitely be in aspect to other asteroids, planets, and calculated points. The key is keeping the orb tight.

posted October 15, 2014 08:43 AM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by a_may_gemini:
Yes, I'm a Pisces Moon. It's quite scary how I can invest all my energy into things that may not even be relevant to me. I've learned to call the shots better as I get older, but alas, Rome was not built in a day!

I've heard of "human design," but I'd like to know where you're going with that train of thought.

---

I asked because I have the same issue with people. I am so attuned to peoples behavior/energy that I have to spend a lot of alone time to recover. You saying how exhausting it all is for you and your general demeanor/tone in your use of language makes me think you too are a projector. I absolutely love your sense of humor. You're a jerk and I love it. And I'm not being offensive, I am really serious. It's my kind of humor too. It's how I guard myself from all the intensity of the stuff that I am feeling that I know for the most part I am just absorbing from my environment. I have that Aqua sun and getting that sit to sit well with all this water is not fun. I can text/write about the most emotional stuff ever, but try and get me to say it out loud. I crack up.

I asked the question the way I asked it because that is just the culture of asking such questions. I am keeping track of the different "energies" aspects, whatever and seeing how I feel them out. I find that there are people I might not have a ton of synastry with, but, there might be one aspect which is super strong that will allow for the persistence of the relationship. It all depends on how well the person has integrated that energy into themselves.

I don't know if that makes sense since I'm a complete idiot when it comes to explaining anything emotional in nature. But, I'll give you an example. I could not handle any guy in my life that aspected my moon/mars/venus in pisces until I learned to be okay with my romantic nature. I would literally want to hurl when a guy was sweet and romantic. Instead I ended up almost marrying a man who's saturn squared my moon/mars/venus. I felt more comfortable with someone dragging me through the mud and then I found some self-esteem and told him to kick rocks. hahahaha

Know I've noticed that I have had several guys come into my life, that were all born within the same three days (different years) but nonetheless, their scorpio Sun/Mercury trines my moon/venus/mars and I do have a preference for Scorpio over Cancer or even pisces. I don't know why, maybe because my 7th house Saturn/South Node/DSC are all in Scorpio? Not sure, but I can pick out a Scorpio with my eyes closed in a crowded room. It's hilarious. They just smack me hard with their energy. Only guys that have actually made me consider settling down. That's been the pattern, without me understanding much about astrology.

So I am asking what potential energies are present, just by looking at the chart alone. Our composite looks pretty intense too and I don't know how to interpret that.

About that Venus... YOU AIN'T LYING.

He really does have a hard time with it. He will emotionally retreat for days, although he will make sure not to just pull completely away or I freak out (my sun sq pluto? that sht is no fun) but then he'll come back around and he's like a baby. He seems just as caught up as I am, only I see him fighting it. I asked him the other day if it was all too intense for him and he asked me to sit down and wait because people don't move as fast as I do. He just doesn't want to rush into a relationship, that he really wants to get to know me first. And I just laughed at him because both of our feelings are too over the edge for all of that. I told him at this point we would have to develop both aspects at the same time.

I activate his 8th house pretty hard, and all the things they say about that 8th house are true. hahahaha

posted October 15, 2014 08:44 AM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Huh. He has SAT-URA conjunct natally?

---

yeah he does and they square my moon HARD.

posted October 15, 2014 08:59 AM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by a_may_gemini:
LOL noble! My mother would rather describe me as "lazy" and "impatient" for my refusal to do anything!

I probably should give a fair warning, as I do have a LOT of Air planets (6 out of 10) and even a lot of my asteroids such as Pallas (Gemini exactly conjunct Mercury) is Airy so I easily can come off as a nonchalant jerk with what I say. Know that I'm not making fun of you or whatever, just presenting what I see from my stranger's lenses.

My answer to your question as to him "feeling" strongly about you as you do to him is that it's anyone's guess. Ask an 8 ball and it'll probably give you a better answer than me. The truth is, feeling is very subjective and what you information you give about him will color how he's presented, in another words, he's presented through your lenses. There's no true objectivity about him, so I cannot give you an objective answer. Besides, how can I compare what he "feels" vs how you "feel?" Feelings are private and very personal, and most of all, intangible, no matter how well articulated.

That being said, I'm a big advocate of Occam's razor and doing a bit of sleuthing to fish out more clues as I think action means more than anything else. But you probably don't want to outright ask him how he feels about you cuz that could just be awkward.

My standpoint is, synastry is not the be all to end all. Some people have great synastry and never get further than a hello. Some people have horrid synastry and they're married for life. I didn't have synastry with my ex husband, let alone any kind of synastry that showed that we were destined to have met and married. And yet, we were together for a very long time, considering we divorced at 27... For goodness sake's, his Venus was in my 12th house and that's considered to a "clandestine" love. HAHAHAHAHAHA YEAH, I had a clandestine marriage with him of which everyone knew we were together!!

Ok, hopefully, you're getting where I'm going with all of this in such a round-about way.

His natal rogue Venus is a bit problematic. That's not exactly to say he's not in touch with his romantic side, but he will have a difficult time with romance, expressing it, feeling it, deciphering, deciding on it, etc. Because Venus is roaming around solo without the assistance of any other planets (esp. without the help of a Superior planet), she's not guided and her path is kinda fuzzy. What does this mean for him? He's not comfortable with Venus energy. He cannot relate to it readily. He cannot recall what to do with it, he may even see it as something that's there to confuse him.

---

"But you probably don't want to outright ask him how he feels about you cuz that could just be awkward."

I'm a scientist and I am really great at asking really weird questions easily. I did ask him and I also asked him if it was okay for me to also "catch feelings for him otherwise, I'd tap out." He laughed at me and said that of course it was okay and that he just doesn't move as fast as I do, that he really does like me but that in the past he has rushed into relationships and they have blown up in his face. That he wasn't expecting to feel the way he did about me and long story short, he just needs time. And he is kinda right, our relationship got super intense really fast. I met him about 2yrs ago, and one day I called him and we ended up in the longest conversation. He never thought I would pay him any attention. I never thought so either, but he has a brain on him that I just can't ignore. And he flew out from LA, and pretty much stayed with me for a week and then we both freaked out. But he has been oscillating in and out and I wondered if synastry could have given me a new perspective. I went through all kinds of freak-outs with him and he is always forcing me to talk about stuff with him and he does take action to resolve my feelings when I ask him to. But he can feel so distant sometimes. I don't know what to make of it.

And yes I understand that it is incredibly hard to be objective when it comes to these matters, but I'm after a greater understanding of these patterns. I am more likely to emphasize the negative before the positive. So an opinion on JUST the aspects and what the energy overlays could potential mean would be super cool.

Gracias amor!