posted October 08, 2014 12:17 AM            

The thing that kills me about synastry wheels it that you can't see degrees. So when we see an aspect we don't really know if it's 5 degrees apart of 1 degree apart. So many people are coming here and getting half accurate readings based on a synastry wheel they posted. That sucks!

But there's a SOLUTION folks. I was messing around on astro.com and they have some better options for posting synastry.

On astro.com if you go to the circular chart drop down list, under the heading ‘Partner Charts’ there’s an option that says: Composite + Natals, Midpoint-method (2). This option allows you to post both natal charts and the composite chart all with the degrees showing.

Here's an example using the synastry of Leighton Meester and Adam Brody (sorry the birth times are not reliable because I just took some guesses).

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You can do the same thing with their progressed synastry. Mir should love this one. Under the heading 'Partner Progressions' on the drop-down list, there's an option to show both progressed chats and the progressed composite chart.

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These two images show just about everything necessary to do a good interpretation, and what's more you can see the degrees for EVERYTHING. Also, if you're really interested to see how the houses interact there's no reason not to add a synastry wheel if you must (Although personally, I can work just fine without them even though I love looking at house rulers and so on). I find the above way of posting charts sooooo much easier to interpret.

Also, my pet peev is seeing some newbie being given a harsh and also inaccurate reading based on a synastry wheel. And the then you find out the so called 'bad' aspect is actually 6 degrees wide, and the poor person has been all worked up over nothing. Like a Mars square Pluto aspect on a synastry wheel might look tighter then it really is. A 1 degrees square is a lot different then a 6 degree one. Scenarios like this might actually turn a newbie off astrology. Add that would be a major pity.

posted October 08, 2014 04:57 AM            

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Originally posted by Lotis White:

Also, my pet peev is seeing some newbie being given a harsh and also inaccurate reading based on a synastry wheel.

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^This is something that always irks me as well when I see it done. It's like a doctor who after a few superficial tests pronounces that the patient has a terminal disease, when it really might just be the flu. Scaring people is just so unneccessary in most cases. And even an exact Mars-Pluto square or conjunction might work out very differently... at least I've seen it happen.

posted October 08, 2014 06:25 AM            

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Originally posted by Vajra:
^This is something that always irks me as well when I see it done. It's like a doctor who after a few superficial tests pronounces that the patient has a terminal disease, when it really might just be the flu. Scaring people is just so unneccessary in most cases. And even an exact Mars-Pluto square or conjunction might work out very differently... at least I've seen it happen.

Thanks for posting that great alternative chart wheel option, Lotis White, I did not know it even existed!

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posted October 08, 2014 06:27 AM            

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Originally posted by next to neptune:
Thanks! But just want to add, that it's a shame that it is only the composite and not the synastry with degrees…

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posted October 08, 2014 07:03 AM            

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Originally posted by Lotis White:

Alright, done with my rant. Please try this new way of posting charts people.

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posted October 08, 2014 07:04 AM            

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Originally posted by Lotis White:
Not sure what you mean. The composite and both the natals are showing the degrees.

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posted October 08, 2014 11:33 AM            

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Originally posted by Lotis White:

Also, my pet peev is seeing some newbie being given a harsh and also inaccurate reading based on a synastry wheel. And the then you find out the so called 'bad' aspect is actually 6 degrees wide, and the poor person has been all worked up over nothing. Like a Mars square Pluto aspect on a synastry wheel might look tighter then it really is. A 1 degrees square is a lot different then a 6 degree one. Scenarios like this might actually turn a newbie off astrology. Add that would be a major pity.

Alright, done with my rant. Please try this new way of posting charts people.

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Thank you for sharing this. It's actually a very aesthetic way to view the charts. It's purdy!

I totally agree with the above! Not only that but so called "bad" aspects can also manifest in a different way depending on the people involved. I had some tight "bad" aspects which never really manifest all that bad.

posted October 08, 2014 11:44 AM            

Yes, it does perhaps make it easier to post the natals and composite, and I salute those of you who can see the synastry without using the superimposed bi-wheel synastry chart, but I don't see how looking only at natals and composite helps newbies understand synastry.

posted October 08, 2014 11:56 AM            

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Originally posted by Delilah423:
I guess I don't understand how this helps with synastry?

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posted October 08, 2014 01:29 PM            

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Originally posted by starmoon:
because it shows the degrees and in synastry, degrees are very meaningful.

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The degrees are on the Synastry PDF chart with the orbs.

posted October 08, 2014 02:02 PM            

For my method, not seeing the synastry wheel is like missing the whole point: synastric geometry, DWs, the overlay story etc usually things pretty obvious on first glance.

As Delilah said, posting the synastric pdf is very helpful, when some degrees are not that obvious: synastric charts often distort degrees; funny thing is, I noticed they make them seem wider rather than tighter.

I use the composite + natals chart because it's a great way to see the connection between natal mirror aspects and their result in the comp., and the general connection between natals and the comp.

Nevertheless, composite + natals is a great addition when posting the synastry chart

posted October 08, 2014 06:12 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Everyone has their method for reading charts. Personally, when I try to help someone here with an opinion, I ask for the type/format of charts I need to form that opinion. Likewise, when someone offers to help me with an opinion, I post the format of charts they request. No big deal.

For my method, not seeing the synastry wheel is like missing the whole point: synastric geometry, DWs, the overlay story etc usually things pretty obvious on first glance.

As Delilah said, posting the synastric pdf is very helpful, when some degrees are not that obvious: synastric charts often distort degrees; funny thing is, I noticed they make them seem wider rather than tighter.

I use the composite + natals chart because it's a great way to see the connection between natal mirror aspects and their result in the comp., and the general connection between natals and the comp.

Nevertheless, composite + natals is a great addition when posting the synastry chart

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Hey LeeLoo,

posted October 08, 2014 06:30 PM            

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Originally posted by Lotis White:
Hi everyone,

The thing that kills me about synastry wheels it that you can't see degrees. So when we see an aspect we don't really know if it's 5 degrees apart of 1 degree apart. So many people are coming here and getting half accurate readings based on a synastry wheel they posted. That sucks!

But there's a SOLUTION folks. I was messing around on astro.com and they have some better options for posting synastry.

On astro.com if you go to the circular chart drop down list, under the heading ‘Partner Charts’ there’s an option that says: Composite + Natals, Midpoint-method (2). This option allows you to post both natal charts and the composite chart all with the degrees showing.

Here's an example using the synastry of Leighton Meester and Adam Brody (sorry the birth times are not reliable because I just took some guesses).

[/URL]

You can do the same thing with their progressed synastry. Mir should love this one. Under the heading 'Partner Progressions' on the drop-down list, there's an option to show both progressed chats and the progressed composite chart.

[/URL]

These two images show just about everything necessary to do a good interpretation, and what's more you can see the degrees for EVERYTHING. Also, if you're really interested to see how the houses interact there's no reason not to add a synastry wheel if you must (Although personally, I can work just fine without them even though I love looking at house rulers and so on). I find the above way of posting charts sooooo much easier to interpret.

Also, my pet peev is seeing some newbie being given a harsh and also inaccurate reading based on a synastry wheel. And the then you find out the so called 'bad' aspect is actually 6 degrees wide, and the poor person has been all worked up over nothing. Like a Mars square Pluto aspect on a synastry wheel might look tighter then it really is. A 1 degrees square is a lot different then a 6 degree one. Scenarios like this might actually turn a newbie off astrology. Add that would be a major pity.

Alright, done with my rant. Please try this new way of posting charts people.

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Thank you .

posted October 09, 2014 04:51 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

For my method, not seeing the synastry wheel is like missing the whole point: synastric geometry, DWs, the overlay story etc usually things pretty obvious on first glance.

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I like to see the synastry wheel or the geometry, too. However for me personally it would be easier to see the real geometry, if the natal aspects were also drawn in there, of course I understand that it might get too confusing then.
Also I like to see aspects to DESC and IC as well. Might not make a big difference with the big aspects, but if I want to check for quintiles or noviles one angle might be novile a planet, but the other angle` isn`t. So if it is the DESC receiving the novile, it would not be shown on the wheel, as they only show aspects to the DESC.

But seriously, for doing a real synastry and not just a glance, I need to print out the natal wheels and synastry wheel anyway, and then draw my own lines with the paint program to identify the geometry. Which for most cases is too much work to do, I admit.

However I do think though degrees matter
and it is such a tedious uncertain thing to guess the degrees from the wheels.