posted October 09, 2014 11:58 PM            

Can you explain this? People have historically blamed Pluto but Pluto has been involved in just about every single relationship I've been in (and some were casual).

For example, I had a relationship once I just couldn't let go of and I obsessed over it for 2 years. And I do mean a VERY unhealthy level of obsession (daily texting and leaving voicemails, crying every day, listening to his music just to hear his voice, etc.).

So what do I look for? How would Nessus or Deja be in aspect and to what?

posted October 10, 2014 10:30 AM            

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Originally posted by Geeky:
In another thread, you wrote, "Nessus/Deja is classic for obsession with another person. When a client calls me totally obsessed, I, always, see this lol"

Can you explain this? People have historically blamed Pluto but Pluto has been involved in just about every single relationship I've been in (and some were casual).

For example, I had a relationship once I just couldn't let go of and I obsessed over it for 2 years. And I do mean a VERY unhealthy level of obsession (daily texting and leaving voicemails, crying every day, listening to his music just to hear his voice, etc.).

So what do I look for? How would Nessus or Deja be in aspect and to what?

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I hope you don't mind my stepping in. I've done a lot of work with NESSUS/DEJA as I have it in dual conjunction, tropical, and tropical-to-Draco.

posted October 11, 2014 02:18 AM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
I hope you don't mind my stepping in. I've done a lot of work with NESSUS/DEJA as I have it in dual conjunction, tropical, and tropical-to-Draco.

Start by adding in NESSUS (from the drop-down) and DEJANIRA (157) to get their placements. See if they're active in synastry.

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Thanks... will do. I'll come back when I know something.

posted October 11, 2014 12:37 PM            

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Originally posted by astra7:
Aubyanne,
If person A has Nessus&Deja conjunction over person B's Mars....who would be more obsessive?

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Good question, Astra.

In my experience, one who has NESSUS-DEJA conjunct carries with them a powerful longing for obsessive relationships; likely has a few in their history. They might not necessarily have a 'taste' for the volatility, but they're familiar with it.

posted October 19, 2014 05:54 PM            

I'm on the inside, him on the outside.

posted October 19, 2014 05:57 PM            

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Originally posted by Geeky:
In another thread, you wrote, "Nessus/Deja is classic for obsession with another person. When a client calls me totally obsessed, I, always, see this lol"

Can you explain this? People have historically blamed Pluto but Pluto has been involved in just about every single relationship I've been in (and some were casual).

For example, I had a relationship once I just couldn't let go of and I obsessed over it for 2 years. And I do mean a VERY unhealthy level of obsession (daily texting and leaving voicemails, crying every day, listening to his music just to hear his voice, etc.).

So what do I look for? How would Nessus or Deja be in aspect and to what?

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Nessus/deja are more classic for that crazy obsession than is Pluto but Pluto is second.

If nessus/deja touch person points in the chart, that would be what I mean, such as the ASC, Sun, Moon, Venus, MC, DSC, Ic etc

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posted October 19, 2014 06:14 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

If nessus/deja touch person points in the chart, that would be what I mean, such as the ASC, Sun, Moon, Venus, MC, DSC, Ic etc

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If I am reading the chart correctly, his Dejanira is conjunct with my IC. That wouldn't make me the obsessed one though, would it?

posted October 19, 2014 06:32 PM            

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Originally posted by astra7:
Thank you Aubyanne

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posted October 19, 2014 06:37 PM            

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Originally posted by Geeky:
For example, I had a relationship once I just couldn't let go of and I obsessed over it for 2 years. And I do mean a VERY unhealthy level of obsession (daily texting and leaving voicemails, crying every day, listening to his music just to hear his voice, etc.).

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^ That's how. I just could NOT let go. I went so far downhill in my career, with my health, etc... the ONLY thing I seemed to care about was getting him back.

posted October 19, 2014 06:48 PM            

But, as a general rule, the angle person/planet person and the Nessus person are BOTH obsessed lol

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posted October 19, 2014 07:05 PM            

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When I met him, I believed he was THE ONE. It was nothing I had ever felt before. We met on Christmas and it's still hard for me to function on that day. Everyone is all smiles and I still feel a loss. It's almost like when the relationship ended, a part of me died.

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Might I say, an awful lot of hard aspects to Neptune there.

posted October 19, 2014 09:04 PM            

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Moon opp. Neptune
Moon conj. Neptune
Sun sq Neptune

Might I say, an awful lot of hard aspects to Neptune there.

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I did note that. I was just wondering if there was something else there.

This was... horrible. He really destroyed me. I didn't fall apart like this over anyone else. I was 32 at the time, so it's not like it was my first serious relationship or anything like that.

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posted October 19, 2014 09:34 PM            

I write a lot about it. It is once in a lifetime. It is intense out the whazoo!!!!!

It feels like Healthclife running through the moors calling Kathy's name.

Nessus/deja and Moon/pluto is nuclear. I have been there and it was nuclear!

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posted October 19, 2014 09:41 PM            

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Originally posted by astra7:
Aubyanne,
If person A has Nessus&Deja conjunction over person B's Mars....who would be more obsessive?

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They both are, Astra. With these asteroids, the obsession seems to be on both sides!

How have you been? Did you get a house? How is the nursing?

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posted October 20, 2014 01:36 PM            

I have an article on this, if you are interested, Geeky.

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posted October 20, 2014 01:40 PM            

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You could not see his heart for what it was! neptune oppose Moon.

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Well, he certainly led me on.

I fell in love with him and then he started pushing me away saying he needed time. I believed him because he was going through some life stuff (mom died of cancer, dad committed suicide). I gave him his space, I wouldn't call when he said not to, didn't go over to his house when he wanted to be alone.

For months I stayed in this weird hold and then one day, I asked if he thought we should see other people. He FLIPPED OUT, told me how he was falling in love with me and couldn't believe I would ask such a thing blah blah and then broke it off. He texted me with so much hate and at the time, I thought that much hate only comes from someone who cares.

So I told him I wouldn't see anyone else and he said he could no longer trust me.

I told him I'd stand by and wait for him. He said he appreciated that and did want a relationship with me, but that we needed to go slow.

I did everything "right" (read: his way) and then one day he says to me (with the coldest tone you've ever heard), "I don't love you. I never f***ing loved you. Do you get it now?"

It came out of no where. I was just..... breathless. I literally couldn't breathe in that moment.

And what followed what such a pathetic display. The obsession. The calling. E-mailing. I tweeted to him relentlessly. I blogged about him. I cried on his voicemail. Begged.

I completely fell apart. Everything was so real to me and the hardest part is that I am actually very good at reading people.

It's just so mind boggling how much he toyed with me.

posted October 20, 2014 03:52 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
They both are, Astra. With these asteroids, the obsession seems to be on both sides!

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How have you been? Did you get a house? How is the nursing?

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I take it you were asking question to Aubyanne? Because your question doesn't make sense to me at all. lol

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Strong Nessus relationships seem really life changing due to the nature of the pain which is kind of like an inner fire burning away one's defenses lol

I have an article on this, if you are interested, Geeky.

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posted October 20, 2014 03:56 PM            

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Originally posted by Geeky:
Well, he certainly led me on.

I fell in love with him and then he started pushing me away saying he needed time. I believed him because he was going through some life stuff (mom died of cancer, dad committed suicide). I gave him his space, I wouldn't call when he said not to, didn't go over to his house when he wanted to be alone.

For months I stayed in this weird hold and then one day, I asked if he thought we should see other people. He FLIPPED OUT, told me how he was falling in love with me and couldn't believe I would ask such a thing blah blah and then broke it off. He texted me with so much hate and at the time, I thought that much hate only comes from someone who cares.

So I told him I wouldn't see anyone else and he said he could no longer trust me.

I told him I'd stand by and wait for him. He said he appreciated that and did want a relationship with me, but that we needed to go slow.

I did everything "right" (read: his way) and then one day he says to me (with the coldest tone you've ever heard), "I don't love you. I never f***ing loved you. Do you get it now?"

It came out of no where. I was just..... breathless. I literally couldn't breathe in that moment.

And what followed what such a pathetic display. The obsession. The calling. E-mailing. I tweeted to him relentlessly. I blogged about him. I cried on his voicemail. Begged.

I completely fell apart. Everything was so real to me and the hardest part is that I am actually very good at reading people.

It's just so mind boggling how much he toyed with me.

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