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Aubyanne
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posted October 10, 2014 10:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I honestly don't have words. I've travelled before; I've gotten pretty adept with it. I'm rather used to finding myself in places unexpectedly and having to sort out the details.

This is the first time I ran into someone I know, who appeared to be engaged in the same activity. Words cannot describe that experience!

All of the usual 'astral symptomology' applied, but this time, combined with something I haven't felt in awhile, and never within the same context of such a travel. This ain't Sweet Peas, so, much like his waxing poetic about the power of imagination, we're gonna leave LOTS to it!

It took me a bit to realise it was him and not 'him'. Although the two are really starting to blend together in my head. One in the same.

What really got me was the sense of surprise. I had been trying to stay out of sight, and I was stunned to run into him. Delighted, obviously. He ended up needing to go to another part of the structure where we were, and I had to go to a lower level, down a wide patch of slightly winding stairs. God, it was strangely terrifying; knowing I didn't have to take this solo -- that he was also there. And yet, there I was, climbing down, slowly, realising I was at least armed, and I just had to remember my training. How it felt. I was hunting someone. I don't know who, but I was clearing rooms.

I remember thinking, 'we're in DC. Where is this? God, what time is this? Is this now? Is it then? What's going on?' I knew I had to remember that I knew all I needed to. I had to remember I was myself. (Odd, I know.)

I could communicate with him using nothing but telepathy. It helped ease the tension while I was away from him, and searching those dark places.

Before long, finding no one, he called me up back to the area where others were milling about. He couldn't find this individual, either. So, we met back up at the top. Aaaand then, not long after that, we both slinked off through the crowd, and enjoyed the privacy.

Most notably, which did not feel like anywhere on Earth, was this absolutely breathtaking storm, with beautiful indigo colours and ball lightning. Wow. I can still smell the ions in the air.

It was ALL so ... wow.

Anyhow, here's the Event Chart. I can post synastry, if desired. I think maybe the progressed would be useful here ....

Weird that the ASC is 08° Aries, as I've recently learnt that's someone's MOON.

Wow. What a trip. ... Literally! I think.

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posted October 14, 2014 10:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm jealous. I miss my OBEs.

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posted October 14, 2014 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What sorts of experiences have you had? They have ALL been 'travel' for the past week or so. Since my SR. But then I've got SCHRODINGER smack on the SR's IC.

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posted October 14, 2014 07:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I THINK I have had about 2 OBE that involve me being in space in both instances the dream felt important like it was trying to tell me something but I dont know what. The visuals felt amazing and powerful.

This week I dreamt of looking up at space and I was very close but not actually in space this time; more like a dream. It was beautiful huge full moon.

How do you know you are having an OBE versus a dream ??

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posted October 14, 2014 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I THINK I have had about 2 OBE that involve me being in space in both instances the dream felt important like it was trying to tell me something but I dont know what. The visuals felt amazing and powerful.

This week I dreamt of looking up at space and I was very close but not actually in space this time; more like a dream. It was beautiful huge full moon.

How do you know you are having an OBE versus a dream ??


Ahhhh. The travelling the universe ones. I LOVE those. God, the most INCREDIBLE sights that way ....

For me, it's the fact I don't 'wake up'; typically, my eyes simply open, and there's no sense of 'I'm waking up now.' I'm not disoriented -- at all -- and I always bring myself out of it. Usually by informing someone that I'm leaving.

And then, I just open my eyes -- and ... that's that.

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posted October 15, 2014 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Ahhhh. The travelling the universe ones. I LOVE those. God, the most INCREDIBLE sights that way ....

For me, it's the fact I don't 'wake up'; typically, my eyes simply open, and there's no sense of 'I'm waking up now.' I'm not disoriented -- at all -- and I always bring myself out of it. Usually by informing someone that I'm leaving.

And then, I just open my eyes -- and ... that's that.


WOW that is sooooo cool~~! LOL

Nah!
I dont think I have experienced an OBE then...

I do meet new loves in my dreams frequently which is weird......its been happening for at least a year now but is never the same person...

I use to have night terrors, I had three in total. Two my husband witnessed and told me about and one I remember I had it bc it was too intense. I was stuck in the dream screaming out of the top of my lungs..after that last terrifying one I have not had anymore...I dont know how to describe were I was but perhaps HADES is a good description. It was like an in between place that was empty abandoned and grey...I was staying at my cousin's that night..

On a number of occasions I am dreaming and then I open my eyes but I still see an image...

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posted October 16, 2014 03:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm very familiar, H.

What you're describing are hypnagogic experiences. The brain hasn't 'switched back' to the alpha wave state yet. It's still broadcasting theta, and was just in delta (REM). This creates that surreality and the 'superimposition' of images upon our physical visual field. We'll also get those wild patterns which overlay our field of vision, until we've awakened, and the wave state has changed.

Night terrors. Those are rough. I've had more than I have fingers and toes; at least five very significant ones. There are many things which can cause them. Most commonly, stress before bed, and attempting to shift from an incompatible brain state to another too quickly. Beta to theta, for example. Too active. Try and be in alpha-state for an hour (at least) prior to attempting sleep, otherwise the brain will misinterpret certain physical signals and convert them to the corresponding neurotransmitters -- cortisol, for example, as a result of the activity, with a shot of norepinephrine.

Body position can affect it, too. Sometimes, being on our backs is worse or better; same as our sides. But once the 'better' position is found, it's consistent. We just all differ regarding which is least likely to incite an episode of sleep paralysis.

Sleep paralysis is a normal bodily function, too. It's abnormal when our brain misinterprets the wake-signal, and prematurely snaps us out of delta, before the physical component has taken place.

Also, I've had the 'dreams prior to relationship' phenomenon, too. So that's fascinating you also have experienced this. Without fail, usually less than a month prior, they'll appear -- and then appear. Heh!

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posted October 16, 2014 04:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:

Also, I've had the 'dreams prior to relationship' phenomenon, too. So that's fascinating you also have experienced this. Without fail, usually less than a month prior, they'll appear -- and then appear. Heh!


Not before a relationship, but before "meeting".

I once was dreaming about an unknown, yet deeply familiar young man. The dream was set in an ancient timeperiod,England or Ireland, Druidan times, and actually the dreamexperience was a Sacred-Marriage-ritual; well I never before heard of that word, but was waking up with that word in mind.
The funny thing is that a friend of mine told me the day later she was having a vision/ imagery, not quite a dream, which described the same event, just from a third person`s perspective, while I was experiencing it from the first person perspective.
Come to that around that time, and maybe that triggered the dream, as my brain was looking for explantions, I was sensing some presence, some energy around, sort of a Mystery guy.
I did not quite see him, but well I knew he was tall and blondish, but what stood out most about him was that sense of elation, enthusiasm, positive vibration of "I embrace the world and nothing can ever go wrong", and actually the presence just felt like a big wide smile.
Of course I was intrigued, puzzled, I couldn`t quite grasp this feeling or sensing, couldn`t figure out who it as, but eventually I just let it be. I was possibly not meant to figure it out.

Well that and the dream happened not even 2 weeks before I first saw Mr Sag, who is the very embodiment of that "smiling energy", not to mention he is tall and blondish. lol


In fact before going to that open air concert, I had read his name on the cast list, and it rang such a loud bell. But I couldn`t figure out where I had heard, read or seen it before.
I hadn´t crossed paths with him before, or had I? (well it certainly felt from the first moment on that we must have met before, and not just in a past life scenario,b ut very bodily in this life, maybe in childhood? during my university days? I can`t remember though).


But I thought it was funny that I was having the sense of that presence plus the strange but oh so serene dream, following a sequence of dreams surrounding Chalice Hill,w hich featured the same man, well slightly different look, but same energy.
And those dreams, no matter the content, just felt golden, sunny, warm, a sense of elatedness, serenity, they felt like an infusion with life itself.
I treasure them a lot.
(just like the one dream surrounding a native American tribe).


It is a funny coincidence, that I am going to finally - FINALLY - visit Chalice Hill next year, in the beginnin of april.

How funny, I just realize that this is close to the next lunar ecclipse. and just a month before my progressed Full Moon (the Queen`s Moon) is going to peak.


Do we believe in coincidences?
nah, we don`t.
Timing is everything, right?


EDIT:
On that account, my progressed Full Moon peaks just 2 days after Beltane.

This is interesting now - I had a sudden hunch - and looked up the Arthurians, some of them at least


And then some more

On the day my fullmoon peaks, it does so with Moon on 7°00 Leo, and THAT day Transniting ISIS on 6°38 Leo, Transiting OSIRIS on 7°12 Leo


opposing my

progressed Sun on 7°00 Aquarius conjunct progressed ARTHUR on 7°37 Aquarius

not a 4th harmonic aspect, but the pr Moon as well as the transiting Isis-Osiris-conjunction are being

quinkunx
nIsis 8°32 Cap
n Osiris 7°50 Cap


Jupiter and Juno still hanging around in Leo as well (13 degrees and 10 degrees).


plus

nGuinevere 10°17 Cap
nSpirit 10°39 Cap
p ASC 11°31 Cap

with Transiting Lancelot having just passed it at 14 Cap and well, Tr Pluto also having been doing the dance over that degrees (actually right now it does, which is interesting as my pr Proserpina is on 10 Cap as well)


pr Lancelot applying natal Valentine by 1 degree.

pr Guinevere applying to conjunct natal Arthur on my n Sun/Moon-mp and avx by 1°44


pr Eros being exact on natal Destinn, 0°15 s


and

pr Neptune 11.13 Sag
pr Valentine 11.13 Sag
pr Karma 11.43 Gemini


looks like an interesting time. lol

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posted October 16, 2014 05:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh?

his n Guinevere on 27°34 Scorpio
my n Valentine on 27°32 Scorpio
my p Lancelot on 26°27 Scorpio


his nArthur on 11.41 Cap
my nGuinevere 10.17 Cap

oh, and the asteroid WElls, the small village near Glastonbury, is on 7°41 Aquarius in my natal chart, so right on the Sun-position of my progressed Fullmoon

ROFL
I was curious.... WELLS in HIS chart is on 11°30 Capricorn, right on our Arthur-Guinevere-conjunction (he has Merlin on that very degree as well). well as a matter of fact he also has Casanova on that degree, and I have Adelaide, so it is a double link.


in the composite WELLS is on 24 Cap, conjunct Moon in 12th house, plus LINK on 25.42 Cap (Our two LINK-asteroids are conjunct natally within a degree, and also falling onto his natal Venus)


You will.NOT.believe. Where WELLS Falls in our progressed composite!
Well, I look at it, and I do.not.

WELLS: 7°49 Aquarius
LINK: 8°36 Aquarius

LOL


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posted October 16, 2014 10:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
I'm very familiar, H.

What you're describing are hypnagogic experiences. The brain hasn't 'switched back' to the alpha wave state yet. It's still broadcasting theta, and was just in delta (REM). This creates that surreality and the 'superimposition' of images upon our physical visual field. We'll also get those wild patterns which overlay our field of vision, until we've awakened, and the wave state has changed.

Night terrors. Those are rough. I've had more than I have fingers and toes; at least five very significant ones. There are many things which can cause them. Most commonly, stress before bed, and attempting to shift from an incompatible brain state to another too quickly. Alpha to theta, for example. Too active. Try and be in beta for an hour (at least) prior to attempting sleep, otherwise the brain will misinterpret certain physical signals and convert them to the corresponding neurotransmitters -- cortisol, for example, as a result of the activity, with a shot of norepinephrine.

Body position can affect it, too. Sometimes, being on our backs is worse or better; same as our sides. But once the 'better' position is found, it's consistent. We just all differ regarding which is least likely to incite an episode of sleep paralysis.

Sleep paralysis is a normal bodily function, too. It's abnormal when our brain misinterprets the wake-signal, and prematurely snaps us out of delta, before the physical component has taken place.

Also, I've had the 'dreams prior to relationship' phenomenon, too. So that's fascinating you also have experienced this. Without fail, usually less than a month prior, they'll appear -- and then appear. Heh!


Pretty much; sounds spot on.

The loves I am meeting in my dreams are either wish fullfillment or I am meeting them in a number of different parallel universe or time lines. Always a different guy and I am not looking for anything on this life currently. I am happy been married lately so these dreams are starting to annoy me...they have been consistent and ongoing for over a year. The dreams are nice but I just feel puzzled by their ongoing nature.

I hope I have an OBE some day. My dad use to have them when young, he did a technique to induce them. He is a therapist, it was his advice that unlocked my dream world.

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posted October 16, 2014 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
What sorts of experiences have you had? They have ALL been 'travel' for the past week or so. Since my SR. But then I've got SCHRODINGER smack on the SR's IC.

I've been to the etheric and astral planes, at least that's my conclusion. I would wake up in the ether on my bed in the dark like it was when I fell asleep and either be sucked into the astral (if I rolled out of my body and stood up) or come back. I think my first experience was most interesting. I was a light bulb at the beginning There's a certain ritual that I can't resist. After I open my higher eyes I see my arms (or rather, their outline) up in the air and I look at them and touch them with fascination and...the desire to make sure it's not just a dream? As far as I remember there is one exception - when I basically jumped out of my body without any notice, stood for a couple of seconds and was pulled back.

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How do you know you are having an OBE versus a dream ??

If you did it my style, you'd wake up inside of yourself, in the dark, vibrate and hear a high pitched sound or be hit with images/a short scene out of nowhere, watch awarely and vibrate. And then welcome to a higher dimension! You could also make a transition from a lucid dream to an OBE.

Actually, I suspect dreams could be an unaware form of astral projection.

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posted October 16, 2014 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Cappy for the response!

All I can say is:

OH MAN! I WANT TO HAVE AN OBE!

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posted October 16, 2014 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're welcome. If you really care you could try to induce it. You can find techniques online and in books. When it comes to literature, you should start from Robert A. Monroe's trilogy. My experiences were spontaneous so I can't give you tested tips.

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posted October 16, 2014 08:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Question for both of you:

What in your chart you two think can explain why you have a natural affinity for OBE??

Auby since you have them so frequently I would love to know what aspects or asteroids you contribute this to??

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posted October 16, 2014 08:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
If you did it my style, you'd wake up inside of yourself, in the dark, vibrate and hear a high pitched sound or be hit with images/a short scene out of nowhere, watch awarely and vibrate. And then welcome to a higher dimension! You could also make a transition from a lucid dream to an OBE.

Oh, how I can relate to that one.

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posted October 16, 2014 08:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Question for both of you:

What in your chart you two think can explain why you have a natural affinity for OBE??

Auby since you have them so frequently I would love to know what aspects or asteroids you contribute this to??


Good question, H. Well, I have natal SUN-NEPTUNE sextile, which means it's also sextile my PLUTO. No big thing, but with my SUN there, trine PSYCHE, it might have some relevance.

Ever since I can recall, I've dreamt lucidly. I regularly 'go' places, and have all sorts of bizarre adventures.

I finally just said 'eff it,' and chose to use this as the vehicle of storytelling for my series. So far, so good.

People have asked me, how on earth I can keep it all straight, or even invent this concept. I just laughed. 'Invent it? Hardly. This is my life!' My crazy, crazy life.

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posted October 16, 2014 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Good question, H. Well, I have natal SUN-NEPTUNE sextile, which means it's also sextile my PLUTO. No big thing, but with my SUN there, trine PSYCHE, it might have some relevance.

Ever since I can recall, I've dreamt lucidly. I regularly 'go' places, and have all sorts of bizarre adventures.

I finally just said 'eff it,' and chose to use this as the vehicle of storytelling for my series. So far, so good.

People have asked me, how on earth I can keep it all straight, or even invent this concept. I just laughed. 'Invent it? Hardly. This is my life!' My crazy, crazy life.


LOL I think is awesome you use to fuel your creatively and it must be a lot of fun...like going off on adventures..

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posted October 16, 2014 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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LOL I think is awesome you use to fuel your creatively and it must be a lot of fun...like going off on adventures..

It's literally quite the trip.

Awhile back, I developed a routine of locating some sort of grocer so that I could check the dates on perishables. Beats running up to strangers and saying, 'where are we? What year is this?'

The rest is determined by clothing style, and, possibly, a known event.

Most lately, the first one where I encountered him in this capacity, it felt as if there were two locations, but both present. Definitely 'other', though, not here.

Oh, that storm. The way it lit up the sky in that gorgeous violet storm grey. That was magnificent.

They've not all been so wonderful, of course. My teens were all about dying in various places and manners. A few in which I had to react with lethal force. That's a feeling you'll never forget.

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posted October 16, 2014 09:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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It's literally quite the trip.

Awhile back, I developed a routine of locating some sort of grocer so that I could check the dates on perishables. Beats running up to strangers and saying, 'where are we? What year is this?'

The rest is determined by clothing style, and, possibly, a known event.

Most lately, the first one where I encountered him in this capacity, it felt as if there were two locations, but both present. Definitely 'other', though, not here.

Oh, that storm. The way it lit up the sky in that gorgeous violet storm grey. That was magnificent.

They've not all been so wonderful, of course. My teens were all about dying in various places and manners. A few in which I had to react with lethal force. That's a feeling you'll never forget.


There has to be more than sun sextile neptune and trine psyche although I am sure that helps...specially if very tight.

What about tardis and interkosmos in your chart? if neither are prevalent then there is some other asteroid involved...its a mystery I would love solve..Your dream life goes farther than the average person..

Is the ruler of your 12th aspecting something key? asteroid or planet..

Maybe having spirit conjunct tardis in progress, by transit or in natal??

If none of this applies when you figure out what other things are at play to explain your rich astral travel life and dream life please share....

Very curious...

Check draco to natal

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posted October 16, 2014 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would love to get to the bottom of this, too -- but the damned server just hiccoughed and refreshed.

And I forgot to copy-paste. D'oh!

Later. Most definitely, later.

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posted October 16, 2014 10:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I would love to get to the bottom of this, too -- but the damned server just hiccoughed and refreshed.

And I forgot to copy-paste. D'oh!

Later. Most definitely, later.


Ahhh that sucks! Later is cool...

I had a thought....I am thinking that your sun conjunct psyche and sextile neptune is part of a planetary-asteroid pattern mix.

Maybe a grand trine, a kite, a mystic rectangle...

Actually a star of david involving key asteroids mixed with your sun and some other planets...that star of david would include that sun sextile neptune and conjunct psyche naturally.

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posted October 16, 2014 10:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ahhh that sucks! Later is cool...

I had a thought....I am thinking that your sun conjunct psyche and sextile neptune is part of a planetary-asteroid pattern mix.

Maybe a grand trine, a kite, a mystic rectangle...

Actually a star of david involving key asteroids mixed with your sun and some other planets...that star of david would include that sun sextile neptune and conjunct psyche naturally.


That's what I think I saw forming. Let's see if I can get it out before I throw my computer. (But not really.)

OSIRIS: 18º LEO
NNODE: 18º LEO
SUN: 19º LIBRA
PLUTO/BML: 21º LIBRA
NEPTUNE: 20º SAG
SNODE: 18º AQU
PRIAPUS: 20º ARIES
PSYCHE: 20º GEMINI

Also, since the 21º is present, SCHRODINGER is 21º CAN, with TARDIS at 21º PIS.

I DO wonder what's going on which has given me such a 'multidimensional' life.

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posted October 16, 2014 10:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ah, here we go.

OSIRIS: 18º LEO
NNODE: 18º LEO
SUN: 19º LIBRA
PLUTO/BML/AKASHI: 21º LIBRA
NEPTUNE: 20º SAG
SNODE: 18º AQU
DISCOVERY: 18º AQU
PRIAPUS: 20º ARIES
PSYCHE: 20º GEMINI
AURA: 22º GEMINI

I'm also intrigued by:

CELESTIA (2º) trine SPIRIT (0º) trine REIKI (0º) in Water.

My VENUS is also conjunct HYNPOS (0º) in my 12H, which, as I think I'd mentioned, ( ... nope, it got erased) my SUN is my 12R.

While I've always had the ability, it really began kicking into high-gear last Christmas. Intriguing, as now my pSUN is trine my nTARDIS; with pTARDIS square pAURA and pPSYCHE, exactly. 9H.

Yeah, that's probably some of it.

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posted October 17, 2014 09:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Question for both of you:

What in your chart you two think can explain why you have a natural affinity for OBE??

Auby since you have them so frequently I would love to know what aspects or asteroids you contribute this to??


Sun (12th HR) conjunct Neptune
ASC trine Neptune
Neptune conjunct Uranus (6th HR - trandescending the mundane?)
Uranus in the 4th, born to be weird
8th house ruler in the 9th, astral TRAVEL
8th house ruler opposite Pluto
Pluto water singleton in the 3rd

Anubis in the 8th opposite Moon 0
Pholus opposite Neptune 2 and Uranus 2
Vertex conjunct Wisdom 1 and Discovery 2
Samadhi in the 4th conjunct Hypnos 0
hPoseidon conjunct Moon 0
Link trine Pluto 0

I can post my first OBE chart if you like.

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