posted October 14, 2014 05:28 PM            

Fourth Quarter Moon + Gibbous Moon
composite: Disseminating Moon

Fourth Quarter Moon + Fourth Quarter Moon
composite: Fourth Quarter Moon

Fourth Quarter Moon + Balsamic Moon
composite: Fourth Quarter Moon

Fourth Quarter Moon + Crescent Moon
composite: New Moon

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posted October 14, 2014 08:36 PM            

I can't say much about the moon phase in the composite. What I look for in synastry are opposing phases; Moon in waxing phase & moon in waning phase. I believe these pairings create the best matches.

On the friendship level I've noticed that those who share a similar phase (eg. waning/LQ moon) will congregate and generally like being around each other. In love, I notice these same people often pick partners from a phase (FQ) opposite their own.

I know an Aqua-Taurus (FQ) who just loves us FM types. I swear every time they talk about a really good friend it's another FMer. Suddenly this person was paired with a LQ and their life just took off like a rocket.

My research here is still young, and I'm still working out how to interpret things. However, I believe that certain moon phases-pairs are more beneficial than others.

posted October 15, 2014 04:20 AM              

Because there's an age difference, the progressed charts have the same phase though (Last Quarter for both right now).

posted October 15, 2014 04:44 AM              

It is more about what you seek in a partner than the actual compatibility between the phases but I thought it was interesting.

posted October 15, 2014 11:30 AM              

The way I see it, since apparently there are as many great couples with the same phase as they are with the opposing phase, I tend to see the same phase as a synastry conjunction, the opp phase as a synastry opposition. They are both attractive and complementary in their own way.

I've thought about it and I don't think I agree with dividing the Moon phases into 4 only. It seems an oversimplification. If I consider the 4 phases, I have a New Moon instead of a Balsamic one, and I don't think the energy the Moon brings before New Moon can be the same as the one of the New Moon. In a way it is a similar phase (surrounding NM) but still very different. Balsamic is like the greatest point of darkness before sunrise, NM is sunrise.

It seems to me the 8 - phases categorization is the right one, since there are four peaks, but also four intermediary stages - waxing/waning - which have their own importance and all 8 have different energies. It is in tune with Aries points and seasons and seasonal changes and celebrations, as Ceri pointed out and more than that, it is also in tune with 8 stages of plant growth, since the Moon is tightly connected to those.

here's a little article about this connection:
http://www.astrograph.com/learning-astrology/phases.php

I'm thinking the various combinations of these 8 phases between two people can give several types of interactions/couples - not classified as good or bad though.
For example, as a Balsamic Moon I thought about it and New Moon people were always there when I started something new in my life, like some sort of guides or mediators: they also gave me the possibility to put my ideas into practice. There's one possible connection between a Balsamic Moon and a New Moon.
We can imagine different combinations, I suppose.

Cappy, I like your idea with the composite: our comp Moon is First Quarter in composite and exact Last Quarter in Davison. Which one do you think I should consider? I'm tempted to consider the Davison Sun/Moon phase is the first stage (related to the two people meeting in time and space and a little relationship with the FM as I have noticed) whilst the composite Sun/Moon phase is the core aspect, manifesting itself later on, after some time together, when the relationship becomes a smooth mechanism lol

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posted October 15, 2014 12:02 PM              

In Davison:
NEW MOON (23°19): Sun 27 Gemini - Moon 20 Cancer

In Composite:
NEW MOON (26°26): Sun 26 Sag - Moon 22 Cap

WEll no surprise in composite, if he is a New Moon and I am a waxing crescent Moon and both Suns are closely conjunct, there was a great probabilty our composite will either have HIS or MY Moon-phase.

Which made me consider the synastric lunar phase between us.

his Sun: 27 Sagittarius
my Moon: 17 Aquarius

50° - just entering the WAXING CRESCENT phase, and hence reflecting my natal lunar phase (and being septile btw, though with a few minutes over 1 degree orb)

my Sun: 26 SAgittarius
his Moon 28 Sagittarius

2° - NEW MOON, so the reflection of HIS lunar phase,

these reflections happen of course, because our Suns are conjunct.

BTW I have a question.

his Sun 26 Sag (well almost 27 degrees)
his Moon 28 Sag

So his Moon is ahead of his Sun, so clearly a New Moon.

However if his Moon had been on 24 Sag, before his Sun, would we have called that a balsamic Moon?
It is so close to the New Moon that I find it hard to think of it as anything but a New Moon, however if we use the 8 phasal scheme which puts the beginning of a New Moon at 00 degrees and the beginning of a first quarter at exactly 90°, then technically a phase of 89° would still be a waxing crescent one.

posted October 15, 2014 12:18 PM              

EDIT: no, not Crescent, sorry. Still New Moon. If the orb between his Moon and the Sun degree that day (the day of the exact conjunction) is under 45, he is a New Moon; if it is between 45 and 90, he is a Crescent - which he isn't obviously.
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posted October 15, 2014 12:27 PM              

But I think we should consider the orb between natal Moon and the exact degree of the Sun when the Moon was in one of the "peaks".

For me, being a Balsamic Moon, the reference is the day when Sun conjunct Moon exact in Virgo that month.

For a Gibbous, the "real" orb between their Moon and the day (Sun degree) of the Full Moon.

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posted October 15, 2014 12:35 PM              

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Ceri, have you checked the orb of the aspect between his natal Moon and the chart when Moon was exactly conjunct Sun that month? maybe this should clear it out - I think that's the aspect we should count, not the one in the natal chart. Because what really matters is how the Moon was on the sky at our birth, not the chart aspect - the "real" Moon is a few degrees later, because the New Moon was a few days before his birth - in this case. In this case, he is most likely a Crescent, like yourself.

EDIT: no, not Crescent, sorry. Still New Moon. If the orb between his Moon and the Sun degree that day (the day of the exact conjunction) is under 45, he is a New Moon; if it is between 45 and 90, he is a Crescent - which he isn't obviously.

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He definitely is a New Moon baby.

the calendar sais about his birthday:

New
visible: 1%
Age: 0 days

posted October 15, 2014 12:59 PM              

"Dane Rudhyar believed that as an integration of Sun and Moon, the natal lunation phase could tell far more about an individual than either of those lights alone. Instead of trading Sun signs at cocktail parties or Starbucks, we might do better to share natal Moon phases.[4] The birth Moon phase describes a fundamental orientation. It surprises me that astrologers rarely consider the lunation phase in synastry (evaluating the potential success or failure of a relationship through birth chart affinities). In both business and romantic partnerships, people are basically working towards a common goal. Compatible Moon phases can go a long way towards sustaining a good marriage or keeping business partners together through tough times.

Throughout this series we've looked at personality characteristics of the eight lunation types. I won't repeat those characterizations here. But perhaps the simplest test for Moon phase affinity is whether someone was born during the waxing or waning half of the cycle. The waxing hemi-cycle favors action. Its urge is to build - to have a visible impact in the outer world. The waning hemi-cycle favors introspection. Its urge is to ponder the meaning of actions or to re-think existing structures. Moon phases divide the world into two types: those who act and those who think.

Of course this is a simplistic distinction. Any human has to both think and do. What we're really getting at is someone's primary motivation, what yanks them out of bed each morning and drives them forward year after year. Waxing births are here to create forms. Waning births are here to question and transform what already exists. Understanding this can help you penetrate to the heart of the matter with anyone, whatever else is going on in their chart.

Consider two architects - one born at the waxing Moon, the other at the waning. Both will design buildings. But the one born at the waxing Moon will take the greatest delight in seeing her architectural plans realized, bringing something into existence that didn't exist before, leaving behind a tangible legacy of structures. That's the spark that will keep her going. The waning Moon architect will more likely be enthralled with the concepts of architecture, perhaps challenging old ideas of design, coming up with new visions. Both will have to meet with clients, sit at a drafting table and visit onsite contractors, but the parts of this work each enjoys will be different.

I once worked with five astrology aficionados who had started a computer consulting firm together. The chart for their business launch was shaky - and before the first year was up, three of the original partners had quit. The split occurred along natal Moon phase lines. The three who abandoned the firm were waning births, all Disseminators. The two who remained were waxing births, both First Quarters. The Disseminators had left over philosophical differences, taking their abundant enthusiasms elsewhere. The First Quarters were the ones who'd actually made the business happen. They'd gotten the space, the equipment, printed up the business cards. The First Quarters kept the consulting firm going for awhile, but as is the way of First Quarters, they needed to keep building. They folded the first business and started another soon after.

Notice how often cliques in your workplace or among friends collect along Moon phase lines. Of course sharing a natal lunation phase creates a certain affinity, but it's not the only ingredient for a successful relationship. It can also mean that the weaknesses of a particular lunation type are doubled. If two individuals born on opposite halves of the lunation cycle have respect for each other's strengths and differences, they can complement each other well. I love the progressed lunation cycle.[5] I wouldn't do an astrology reading without it. In ten years of selling Moonprints reports, many of the "Wow's" I've received have come from people whose personal mysteries were explained by this cycle. I've discussed progressed Moon phases in previous installments of this series. Many astrologers work with them - but rarely do astrologers discuss their value in understanding the Saturn return. Saturn and the progressed Sun-Moon cycle go around the chart at the same rate, returning to their natal positions every 28 years. When unmet desires rear up at the Saturn return, they will often have their roots in the natal Moon phase.

Brian came to me on his first Saturn return. With his natal Saturn in his second house, we talked of course about money and career. He'd recently gotten a promotion with a good-sized raise. It seemed like he was experiencing a happy Saturn return, reaping professional rewards for past efforts. But people don't usually come for readings because life is going well. Something else was going on.

Brian's crisis was that he desperately wanted to get married - certainly a reflection of Saturn's urge toward greater maturity and commitment. But his girlfriend was pulling back. He told me that his relationship life had always been more important than his work life and now he was miserable. Curiously, his chart had an abundance of "freedom" signatures: a Sagittarius Ascendant and a stellium in Aquarius opposing a 9th House Moon conjunct Uranus. Does that sound like someone desperate for a commitment? No way. In fact there was only one thing in his chart that indicated this desperation about relationships. He was a Full Moon baby. His progressed Full Moon return held the astrological key to his dilemma.

Full Moon types often attract partners to play out their shadow selves. When Brian and I looked at how there was a part of him that still craved freedom, it took some of the sting out of his girlfriend's rejection. As a Full Moon baby, learning lessons through relationships would be a constant theme in Brian's life. Through the lens of his progressed Full Moon return, he was able to momentarily, at least, achieve the balanced perspective that Full Moon births so deeply desire.

And I, of course, was grateful for the Moon - which provided the strongest clue to his needs at the time. Once again, that old strategy paid off: Read one page - or planet - well and tease out the meanings of the full text. This is the last article in my Moon Watching series, but my love for the Moon - and I hope yours now too - will go on and on."

posted October 15, 2014 04:41 PM            

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........ but my love for the Moon - and I hope yours now too - will go on and on."

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posted October 15, 2014 05:09 PM              

Funny that Disseminators are the ones who leave. It is probably true.

posted October 16, 2014 04:47 AM              

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Originally posted by mir:
^ Oooowww we DO have vision and lofty principles but putting the skill off for a day or decade......... (also FQ here )

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Hahaha, speaking just for myself, I can see the value of your skills, but ideological conflicts would definitely drive me away. We need to have the same vision, for the same grand purpose, or it's not happening. The fact that he's all Earth and I'm all Fire also adds to things. But we'll just diversify: I come up with the ideas, he does the work. Everybody's happy! hahahaha

posted October 16, 2014 05:41 AM              

For example.
my waxing crescent Aquarius Moon is a "Father`s daughter Moon" (related to Pallas Athena symbolism).

Makes a lot of sense actually. And funny enough my Dad IS an Aquarius (Sun, Venus, Jupiter), and I always found my Moon is more closely related to him, than my Mom

He himself has a "Woodcutter`s Moon", and incidentally last year he started working with wood, cutting it and making art from it. Curiously the first thing he did was a cobra/snake. I was looking at it, and it gave me goosebumps. Not bad ones, just having had the feeling like something "ancient" was happening in front of my eyes.
Interestingly a few months before my parents and me had been watching a documentary on Atlantis, and he was especially fascinated with the artistic working with wood they did.
So it definitely fits him!

My Moom, waning balsamic Virgo - a Monk`s Moon.
Funny that fits as well, even though she is social and concerned with other people`s wellbeing and gathering them, there is a very contemlative serious philosophical vibe to everything she does.

Oh and my progressed Full Moon?

Well as of now it is still in the last throes of the "Life Giver`s-Moon", will transition into the "Singer`s Moon" -

and once it becomes a real fullmoon and peaks it will be a "Queen`s Moon", for quite a while. LOL

posted October 16, 2014 06:07 AM              

Thank you!

posted October 16, 2014 07:07 AM              

and your Moon is the PHILOSOPHER`S MOON. lol

Sounds like a very communicative and talkative Moon. Loving the exchange of thoughts with other people. Usually not the big centre of the party, but the centre of the small group gathered together in a corner, philosophizing about the important things in life.
Endless thirst for learning and expanding one`s horizon.

posted October 16, 2014 07:13 AM              

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
book is: Moon Phase Astrology - the lunar key to your destiny, by Raven Kaldera

and your Moon is the PHILOSOPHER`S MOON. lol

Sounds like a very communicative and talkative Moon. Loving the exchange of thoughts with other people. Usually not the big centre of the party, but the centre of the small group gathered together in a corner, philosophizing about the important things in life.
Endless thirst for learning and expanding one`s horizon.

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Ha.. it kinda fits! Not to mention it's in the 11th, so pretty people-oriented, yes.

Can you also check Mr. Cap's Moon? 14 Tau and his Sun 23 Cap. Thank you and hope it's not too much to ask. I'm expecting something like the Grumpy Moon lmao.

posted October 16, 2014 07:15 AM              

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Mr Sag actually has a GYPSY MOON. You donīt say!

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Really? Why do you think it fits him?

posted October 16, 2014 07:18 AM              

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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
Ha.. it kinda fits! Not to mention it's in the 11th, so pretty people-oriented, yes.

Can you also check Mr. Cap's Moon? 14 Tau and his Sun 23 Cap. Thank you and hope it's not too much to ask. I'm expecting something like the Grumpy Moon lmao.

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