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Topic: to handle conflict during Mercury Rx? or wait until it goes direct...
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thedoctorisIN5c Knowflake Posts: 27 From: United States Registered: Dec 2013
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posted October 20, 2014 12:52 PM
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hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 711 From: Miami Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 20, 2014 02:21 PM
Well you have a heartbreak clash in composite in the 7th house: Saturn conjunct Chiron.To top it off chiron is transiting the composite 7H right now so yes old wounds will resurface and need to be dealt with and healed as much as possible. T-Chiron is approaching your composite chiron by 10 degrees. Your composite will have a chiron return which involves a heartbreak clash. He probably feels vulnerable, is afraid of getting hurt so he is hybernating again. I am not sure what the right advice is. If he does not want to communicate there is not much you can do but if he is open to communication perhaps is a good time to heal old wounds. If he is not open to communication is possible he might be once chiron leaves the 7th house or separates by 4 orbs or more from both saturn and chiron. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 711 From: Miami Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 20, 2014 02:23 PM
and yes I would wait till next week to talk as neither of you have mercury retrograde.IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 1413 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 20, 2014 02:37 PM
I agree with Hypatia.And, what exactly do you mean by '4-year silence' ? IP: Logged |
thedoctorisIN5c Knowflake Posts: 27 From: United States Registered: Dec 2013
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posted October 20, 2014 05:54 PM
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thedoctorisIN5c Knowflake Posts: 27 From: United States Registered: Dec 2013
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posted October 20, 2014 06:54 PM
Hypatia and Auby, does Chiron move slowly? Looking at an ephemeris, it looks like it barely moves...Does this mean it will be years before Chiron moves far enough away from natal placements of Saturn and Chiron? wouldn't that be right now? chiron is 23degrees in both natal charts and the composite. transiting chiron is 13degrees. the ephemeris shows Tchiron's degrees climbing closer. Hellllp...im so confused IP: Logged |
Vajra Moderator Posts: 459 From: Europe Registered: Dec 2012
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posted October 20, 2014 07:23 PM
quote: Originally posted by thedoctorisIN5c: I wish he would just open up and talk this through.
Very understandably. Hm... Just in order to make you think, let me ask you a few questions: Did I understand correctly that he iced you out for YEARS over something like that, and even though you kept messaging him again and again? What about his own part in the situation - did you even consider that he could have shown some more initiative and openness as well, rather than demand that you conform to his (implicit) standards of behavior? - Couldn't he have asked you right before the reunion whether you were now planning to come or not? - Couldn't he have gone there anyway, just in case? - Couldn't he have contacted you afterwards for clarification of that photograph, before simply icing you out and blocking you, for the major crime of going to a reunion without telling him (again)? - Couldn't he have gotten over it after some time, and started to be responsive again, if you meant as much to him as he obviously does to you? Couldn't he have done at least one of these things….if he were really being open to you, interested in you, and also, in your well-being? I must say I take being iced out over such little things very badly. I consider it very bad behavior, to put it politely, and in most cases it leads to me losing all interest in the person, especially if it's seemingly meted out as "punishment" for a minor offense. If someone expects me to read their thoughts all the time, they will need to find a different companion. Especially during the courtship phase, when people try to give their best, I would take such behavior as a sure fire sign of not having enough sincere interest, and move on. In your case one could even go so far to consider it sadistic that no reason was given at all for breaking the contact in such circumstances as you describe, and I would also assume that this is likely the person's preferred style of solving conflicts in general. So ask yourself: Would you really be happy with a person who treats you like that every time you unintentionally displease them? What if there is ever a more substantial disagreement, what is he going to to then? Just some thoughts for you to ponder, ok? No need for you to answer them here, just think about them. Best of luck IP: Logged |
thedoctorisIN5c Knowflake Posts: 27 From: United States Registered: Dec 2013
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posted October 20, 2014 08:02 PM
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Blind writer Knowflake Posts: 377 From: Texas, USA Registered: May 2012
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posted October 20, 2014 08:37 PM
You have the Libran curse. It's a very fine line to walk - should you consider the other person's perspective, try to determine what the best way is to go about things, to be considerate - or to bite the bullet, and make your voice be heard and risk conflict? I can relate, though I have the MOON, not the SUN. Your air MOON probably doesn't help you here, though. Moreover, he's that hard-to-pin, detached Aqu SUN, with a super-sensitive Pisces MOON/VENUS. You have to suffer with every step you take. Is this too much, not enough, should you try now, or back up and give space? Oh yes, I understand. I think you should reframe your mindset. Consider more about avoiding regret from your inaction vs sparking a conflict you can work to resolve. If he truly cherishes the relationship you have, he will put forth effort in his own way, too. It's a matter of trusting that he will do his part. Beware the passage of time, though. Are you guys separated by distance? If not, I would try to pin him in a place you know you can talk. Four years is a long time to be out of contact. Time will run away from both of you, before you know it. IP: Logged |
thedoctorisIN5c Knowflake Posts: 27 From: United States Registered: Dec 2013
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posted October 20, 2014 09:10 PM
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hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 711 From: Miami Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 20, 2014 09:38 PM
quote: Originally posted by thedoctorisIN5c: Hypatia and Auby, does Chiron move slowly? Looking at an ephemeris, it looks like it barely moves...Does this mean it will be years before Chiron moves far enough away from his natal placements of Saturn and Chiron? wouldn't that be right now? chiron is 23degrees in both natal charts and the composite. transiting chiron is 13degrees. the ephemeris shows Tchiron's degrees climbing closer. Hellllp...im so confused
Good question! "This transit of Chiron through Pisces lasts until April 2018, when it will enter Aries" I recommend you forgive him and let him go and use astrology to find answers to the karma you guys shared in past lives. I have found that understanding my karmic past life with my ex has helped me forgive and let go. Its better to say Enough is Enough and stop the cycle with love and letting go. By understanding the karmic past you can gain mindfulness and feel compassion for yourself and him and then release all of it with love and without expecting anything more... Good Luck! You are not alone, many of us have dealt with similar things in some manner, shape or form. Wish him well in your mind and free yourself from the dependency of the idea of any outcome with him. Its a process but you will free yourself from this karma and get there. IP: Logged |
Blind writer Knowflake Posts: 377 From: Texas, USA Registered: May 2012
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posted October 20, 2014 10:18 PM
quote: Originally posted by thedoctorisIN5c: omgsh...its funny...when i was writing my response above, i was thinking, "Someone's gonna nail me for my libran tendencies." BOOM. it didn't take but a few minutes. o dear. You're right... you're right ....you're. RIGHT.....grrrrr. I need to tell him like it is. I'm probably not doing him any favors by smoothing it over and shrinking in a corner to wait for him to come around again. Afterall, he's got the true node in the 7th, as well as Saturn. but for sure, there are lessons to be had with his true node positioning. Perhaps I can be a channel or compass and point him in the right direction? We BOTH screwed up...not just me. Although i will take much of the blame. anywayeeee....Have i said, yet, that you're right? :\ sigh. I love the "regret of inaction vs sparking a conflict" comment you made btw. Point well taken! I'd STILL like to know about the Tchiron thing. if i'm looking for a time to talk to him that is at least 4 degrees away from natal chiron and Saturn...wouldn't that be now?? and if he's not willing to talk, waiting for Chiron to move its hiney far enough along is going to take til at least late 2017, right?
You're like a strange shade of me. The significant other that I have this kind of trouble with (albeit, 15 yrs in my case) is also an Aqu SUN, Pisces VENUS. I also have the VENUS-CHIRON opposition in my natal. And one of my luminaries is in Libra, like yours. If anything, I should probably be taking my own advice, heh. I wouldn't push trying to "time" things, though. Transiting CHIRON coming into conjunction stings your VENUS, but it empowers CHIRON to do the job he is best at - healing. This may just be the opening act for better things to come, regardless of the outcome you're expecting. As an aside - you said his NN was in the 7H, but per the chart you posted, I see it in the 9H? IP: Logged |
thedoctorisIN5c Knowflake Posts: 27 From: United States Registered: Dec 2013
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posted October 20, 2014 10:23 PM
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thedoctorisIN5c Knowflake Posts: 27 From: United States Registered: Dec 2013
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posted October 20, 2014 10:41 PM
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thedoctorisIN5c Knowflake Posts: 27 From: United States Registered: Dec 2013
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posted October 20, 2014 10:52 PM
and might i add... i was totally wondering about TChiron empowering Natal or composite Chiron, and the possible healing aspect. VERY cool that you have mentioned this. I will research more, now that you've said that. Thanks.IP: Logged |