posted October 21, 2014 07:43 AM            

The NN in synastry is amazing. If a person has a planet or asteroid on your NN, they will bring the flavor of that planet or asteroid TO the relationship. It may not show up if it is not a committed long term relationship. However, if it is, it will show up. If it is a hard planet or asteroid, you will eat your fill of it until you want to burst.

I am very strong about the NN in synastry, for this reason. If I see a chart with a hard planet or asteroid conjunct someone’s NN, I tell them to be very careful of marrying the person. If a persons Saturn conjuncts your NN, they will bring restriction and discipline in to your life. You may feel like you are living with a strict father. If you can take this, so be it, but be aware that the relationship WILL bring the flavor of Saturn to it. If a persons Nessus conjuncts your NN, that person will bring the darkest parts of the human soul to you. Do you want that?

I will list some.

Dejanira conj NN—the person will be your victim.

Juno conj the NN–the person will bring you all the best traits of a loyal wife

Vesta conj the NN–the person will bring you devotion

Pallas conj the NN–the person will bring you wisdom

Uranus conj the NN–the relationship will have a lot of ups and downs in strange ways. There may be a lot of make-ups and break ups

Pluto conj the NN— there will be all kinds of primal passion. This will define the relationship, for better or worse. Think of Liz and Dick. Your relationship will be very very passionate.

Moon conj the NN–the person will bring you his heart. This would be wonderful. It would be a child like kind of bond.

Sun conj NN- the person would bring confidence to you

Jupiter con the NN- the person will bring optimism to you.

Chiron conj the NN–the person will bring you pain

Mars onj the NN–the person will bring you drive

Venus conj the NN–the person will be a thing of beauty to you. Your relationship will have a sense of beauty such as the feeling of a musical.

Neptune conj the NN—this may bring great sorrow as you may have had ideals that were not met leading to great sorrow. I have heard this could lead to bad abuse or worse. This is a theory which someone I know is studying.

Nessus conj the NN–the person will bring you abuse

Pholus conj he NN–the person will bring all sorts of explosive outbursts

Child conj the NN–the person will bring his inner child to you and that childlike sense will pervade the relationship. There will be a child to child kind of wonderful feeling between you.

Eros conj the NN–the relationship will be very erotic

Lilith conj the NN–the person will bring his raw sexuality to the relationship. Raw sexuality will be a theme of the relationship.

Medusa conj the NN- the person will have been betrayed by woman but hate men. This theme will be brought by the person to the relationship. This theme will define the relationship, too

Sedna conj NN–the person will bring a severe betrayal by men to the relationship. This theme will define the relationship

Sappho conj the NN–the person will bring eroticism of a literary bent. The music “Bolero” by Ravel would be the feeling of your relationship

Apollo conj the NN–The NN person would adore the Apollo person. The NN person would have a kind of awe for the Apollo person

Proserpina conj the NN—The Proserpina Person would bring some kind of rite of passage from innocence into some form of corruption to the NN person. How this may play out. The Proserpina person may corrupt the innocence of the NN person, in some way.

Orchus conj the NN–The Orchus person would make the relationship about a journey of overcoming. There may be issues of illness, poverty etc. The relationship may be one of overcoming, but they would do so.

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posted October 21, 2014 10:31 AM            

Karma asteroid conjunct the NN?

Psyche asteroid conjunct the NN?

Angel asteroid conjunct the NN?

posted October 21, 2014 01:35 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

The NN is very important, I agree. After all it represents the merging and intersecting of Sun, Moon and Earth.

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How important is NN in synastry, and is the nodal axis part of your "natural pairs" theory?

Can you talk some more about NN
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Can the NN function separately of the SN ?

posted October 21, 2014 01:55 PM            

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Originally posted by margym0o:
Mercury conjunct the NN?

Karma asteroid conjunct the NN?

Psyche asteroid conjunct the NN?

Angel asteroid conjunct the NN?

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I will add them for you, M.

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posted October 21, 2014 02:02 PM            

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Originally posted by mollywu:
Thanks a lot, Ami.

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Thank YOU for appreciating it, Molly!

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posted October 21, 2014 02:38 PM            

Mercury conj the NN--The Mercury person will bring communication to the NN person. The relationship will have a lovely Theme of communication

Angel conj the NN--The Angel person will bring the theme of selfless giving to the NN person

Psyche conj the NN--The Psyche person will bring soul to the NN person. Psyche is similar to the bonding one has with good Moon aspects.

Karma conj the NN--This relationship will have a feeling of being fated.

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posted October 21, 2014 04:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Karma conj the NN--This relationship will have a feeling of being fated.

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posted October 21, 2014 04:20 PM            

His Vesta/NN is conjunct my Dejanira/Child conjunction
My NN is conjunct his IC and Venus

Our Nessus conjunct, NN's conjunct, Sedna's, Chiron's, Jupiters, Juno's, Pluto's, etc, and once we moved past the pain of that, we become best friend cousins.

posted October 21, 2014 04:21 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
I can see that. A little simplistic; I'd love a bit more detail, as this is strong for me. His KARMA is conjunct my NNODE (2º); my KARMA conjunct his SNODE (0º).

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I do not believe in past lives as many here do, so I don't link this asteroid to past lives, A.

I cannot add much to what I wrote, other than to say that is is a fated relationship imo

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posted October 21, 2014 04:23 PM            

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Originally posted by ReeseC:
I have a cousin that abused me when I was a child and we have crazy NN synastry.

His Vesta/NN is conjunct my Dejanira
My NN is conjunct his IC and Venus

Our Nessus conjunct, NN's conjunct, Sedna's, Chiron's, Jupiters, Juno's, Pluto's, etc, and once we moved past the pain of that, we become best friend cousins.

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WOW! Thanks for sharing.

I would look at your first two line because the other things conjunction with people born close in age.

However, the personal part is truly amazing!!

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posted October 21, 2014 04:30 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
WOW! Thanks for sharing.

I would look at your first two line because the other things conjunction with people born close in age.

However, the personal part is truly amazing!!

Oh that makes sense(about have so many things conjunct...he was born in Jan 90 and I was born May 90). As far as the first two lines, we came with baggage I suppose.

I'm red, and he is blue

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posted October 21, 2014 04:33 PM            

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Originally posted by ReeseC:
I have a cousin that abused me when I was a child and we have crazy NN synastry.

His Vesta/NN is conjunct my Dejanira/Child conjunction
My NN is conjunct his IC and Venus

Our Nessus conjunct, NN's conjunct, Sedna's, Chiron's, Jupiters, Juno's, Pluto's, etc, and once we moved past the pain of that, we become best friend cousins.

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Wow. I'm floored, Reese. I have not been able to have anything but a strained relationship with mine. I'm not sure if I ever will -- or could.

posted October 21, 2014 04:37 PM            

The personal contacts are amazing. The chart never lies and all it's details prove to me true!

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posted October 21, 2014 04:38 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

I do not believe in past lives as many here do, so I don't link this asteroid to past lives, A.

I cannot add much to what I wrote, other than to say that is is a fated relationship imo

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Huh. Curiously, how can you believe in fate, while not taking the flip-side of the paradigm, which indicates that you're coming together to resolve karma, presumably, from previous lives?

My understanding is not in 'past lives' so much as alternate lives. Modern physics tells us that only the present exists -- neither the past, nor the future. As such, there are theories which suggest many versions of that present are existing, simultaneously. And, for me, these are 'past lives' -- or what most consider karma.

In my experience, KARMA involved with the NNODE would show that clearing karma -- be it from our personal past histories, or alternate incarnations -- is crucial to spiritual evolution.

posted October 21, 2014 04:45 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Wow. I'm floored, Reese. I have not been able to have anything but a strained relationship with mine. I'm not sure if I ever will -- or could.

Then again, you're close in age. Would you mind my asking what sort of abuse?

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posted October 21, 2014 04:48 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
I'm not sure if you saw this, Ami, but DEJANIRA conjunct SNODE? Anything?

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Is this natal, synastry? Who is whom. Thanks!

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posted October 21, 2014 05:24 PM            

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Originally posted by ReeseC:
Aww, don't say that. You can work through anything if you get to the root of things, and forgive.
It was sexual abuse, though I'm not sure it was intentional or the whole let's play house or doctor experimentation thing.....or at least I choose to believe that based on his character.

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To be honest, as I've seen this extensively in my practise, those who are so close in age, and, during a certain age range, ('period of innocence') it's definitely an experimentation, and can happen inside of extended family bounds.

For me, I was 7, and he was 14. He knew what he was doing. I was (dare I say it) 'easy access'.

The truth is, how much you feel exploited and abused -- and whether that pattern carries on into subsequent relationships. I'm still dealing with it. My greatest concern, growing up, was protecting our cousin 7 years my junior. I was on him like a hawk, and constantly checking in with her. From what she tells me -- I was successful.

posted October 21, 2014 05:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Is this natal, synastry? Who is whom. Thanks!

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Oh! Sorry. I thought that was clarified.

In synastry. My partner's SNODE is conjunct my DEJANIRA, 2º30. Scorpio. My 2H, his 11H.

Natally, it's conjunct True BML and parallel my SUN and DSC, which I've always thought was curious. But the more I learn how much my journey involves exploring and reclaiming my vulnerability in the face of victimhood -- it makes sense.

It's all parallel APHRODITE, too. I'm not sure if I felt exploited because of physical beauty and began to hide or attempt to detract from it, but I think last year was the first time since I can recall that I began to accept having what others consider physical beauty. Almost as if it can't be trusted. Sometimes, I wonder if I became so Lilith (despite my Mean BML also being conjunct SUN-PLUTO) in order to protect myself from exploitation and victimisation by men. It certainly led to a lot of success as a dominatrix.

While parallel my DEJANIRA, it's only DEJANIRA that's conjunct his SNODE, however. That's just a background on my DEJA.

posted October 21, 2014 05:46 PM            

Your victim self would be comfortable with him.

You both may be able to be really vulnerable with each other in a lovely way.

This would be be MUCH better than the NN which I would not like at all.

If your deja were conjunct his NN, then you would bring the lessons of victim hood to his Point of purpose(NN)

I would think that you would be a victim in the relationship and this would not be good lol

Hence, in the case of the SN, it may be a comfy place for your most vulnerable self.

Does that fit?

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posted October 21, 2014 06:20 PM            

I'd say, quite inexplicably, a part of me is terrified to be vulnerable to him; it always feels to me like something horrible will happen. And yet, there's an equally powerful compulsion to explore intimacy -- especially eroticism; deep, even cathartic, experiences. But, so bizarrely, it's a sense of being unable to relax into it -- always somewhat on my guard.