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salonroquet
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posted November 06, 2014 04:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for salonroquet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is this aspect in synastry basically a sign of doom and gloom in a relationship?

What happens when you both have this aspect to each other?

In my case,
My Mars conjuncts my partner's Saturn. (Libra)
His Mars conjuncts my Saturn. (Virgo)

Are we like both each other's teachers or something? Is there that much restriction ahead?

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athenegoddess
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posted November 06, 2014 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hmm. i just met someone with his mars conjunct my saturn and uranus exact and i felt the aspect play out. i wouldn't under any circumstancs want to be intimate/sexual with him and my saturn rejected his mars.

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posted November 06, 2014 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Koho     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't recall a relationship where this played a major role for me. My guess is this is good. I would probably expect the Saturn aspects to both Mars to help manage egos and temper? Total guess

Just be happy Saturn is on your side - could be a Saturn sq Mars afterall

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LeeLoo2014
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posted November 06, 2014 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars/Saturn is generally a good aspect in marital synastries, regardless the aspect, a DW even better. But it requires for both partners to have this archetype positively integrated within themselves: Mars/Saturn means work, combining action with discipline, initiative with restraint etc. It's a good aspect for long-term sexuality.

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posted November 06, 2014 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wheresthemoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've dated someone where his mars was trine my saturn, but it felt like a hard aspect...probably because he has a really afflicted Mars. Permission to speak? lol.

Basically, he was impulsive, but not in the ways I wanted. He would overspend, be very sexually aggressive, and just downright irritating. I always felt very Saturn-ish around him. I was always having to tell him to stop doing something, because his impulsive behaviors were destroying things. We were trying to save money, and he would go out and buy a big screen TV. And of course, if I told him not to, he would either figure out a way to convince me or I'd have to watch him sulk about it for weeks, making me feel like the bad guy.

He was far too interested in sex with me for my taste. Not that that's always a bad thing, but I don't enjoy sex if I'm having it too much, and he would want to have it every day. And if he didn't get it, he would sulk.

I feel like even in easy aspect this can mean that Saturn views Mars as childish and out of control, and Mars views Saturn as a big wet blanket.

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posted November 06, 2014 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thats how i felt too. When he would try to kiss me i would not be feeling it at all and just wanted him to stop. I don't like Mars saturn..

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LeeLoo2014
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posted November 06, 2014 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by wheresthemoon:
I've dated someone where his mars was trine my saturn, but it felt like a hard aspect...probably because he has a really afflicted Mars. Permission to speak? lol.

Basically, he was impulsive, but not in the ways I wanted. He would overspend, be very sexually aggressive, and just downright irritating. I always felt very Saturn-ish around him. I was always having to tell him to stop doing something, because his impulsive behaviors were destroying things. We were trying to save money, and he would go out and buy a big screen TV. And of course, if I told him not to, he would either figure out a way to convince me or I'd have to watch him sulk about it for weeks, making me feel like the bad guy.

He was far too interested in sex with me for my taste. Not that that's always a bad thing, but I don't enjoy sex if I'm having it too much, and he would want to have it every day. And if he didn't get it, he would sulk.

I feel like even in easy aspect this can mean that Saturn views Mars as childish and out of control, and Mars views Saturn as a big wet blanket.


I'm curious...what does Saturn do in your chart? What about his? What house does your Saturn overlay? Do you have an aspect between your Marses and where are your Marses, sign and house?

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posted November 06, 2014 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pretty Theft     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have this aspect with my boyfriend. He is the Saturn and I am the Mars. Our conjunction takes place in my 10th house, and his 6th. I've read that, when expressed positively, the Saturn person can help channel the Mars person's energies. I definitely think that's happening here -- he's been very helpful and supportive of my career, as opposed to being suppressive. My last relationship (which lasted 7 years) had Saturn square Mars (he was the Saturn, again) and that really sucked. I felt judged all the time, no matter what I did, and I did not like having sex with him.

Sexually speaking re: my current relationship, my drive is probably slightly higher than his, and I am left wanting to jump his bones more often than I actually end up jumping his bones. It's hard to initiate sex when your boyfriend is dead to the world (sleeping very soundly).

The two of us have some other strong attraction/sexual aspects though, so it's not a huge problem. Just sort of akin to getting a paper cut. Or, like, wanting nachos and not having any money to go get some.

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posted November 06, 2014 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pretty Theft     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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What happens when you both have this aspect to each other?

In my case,
My Mars conjuncts my partner's Saturn. (Libra)
His Mars conjuncts my Saturn. (Virgo)


I actually think this is a great sign (it's a double whammy) because it shows that you both feel a responsibility for each other. It depends on how each person expresses their Saturn/Mars, but if you've both got it, there's a balance there, where there wouldn't be otherwise.

Saturn at its worst is judgmental, rather than constructive. It might be a good thing to keep in mind.

If you have some mellow Venus aspects to lighten the mood, I wouldn't be too worried about the relationship turning cold.

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posted November 06, 2014 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Pretty Theft:

Saturn at its worst is judgmental, rather than constructive. It might be a good thing to keep in mind.


I liked this, about Saturn being restrictive/judgmental/a cold blanket as its negative side and constructive/supportive/protective as its positive side. I think this is how it works.


My parents have Mars sq Saturn DW and there has been no coldness between them or problems with intimacy, as my mother says.

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Pretty Theft
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posted November 06, 2014 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pretty Theft     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I liked this, about Saturn being restrictive/judgmental/a cold blanket as its negative side and constructive/supportive/protective as its positive side. I think this is how it works.


My parents have Mars sq Saturn DW and there has been no coldness between them or problems with intimacy, as my mother says.


I think this sounds great because a lot of people really fear Saturn, and don't realize that he has a good side, too. Some people can handle a lot of Saturn and others just don't have that many Saturn aspects.

Without Saturn there is no "glue" ...

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posted November 06, 2014 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My parents have the DW conjunction, too, and also in Libra and Virgo.
Nothing cold about them.
Of course they also have other aspects, but Saturn is a biggie between them.
I think though the Mars-Saturn-conjunctions are not afflicted, but actually are also tied to Venus.

My Dad`s Venus trines my Mom`s Saturn (5 degrees)
my Mum`s venus conjuncts my Dad`s Saturn exact (she has a Venus-Mars-conjunction inVirgo)

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posted November 06, 2014 06:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wheresthemoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I'm curious...what does Saturn do in your chart? What about his? What house does your Saturn overlay? Do you have an aspect between your Marses and where are your Marses, sign and house?




My only saturn aspect is jupiter opposite saturn.
My saturn is in my seventh house.
No aspect between our Mars. I have my Mars in cancer in the twelfth (and in his fourth house), he has his mars in Gemini in his fourth house (and my eleventh house).

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Aubyanne
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posted November 07, 2014 02:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is one of those which can go either way. The closer the aspect, the stronger the impact will obviously be. Everything depends upon which houses are ruled, in which ones they're placed, and how each planet is positioned natally.

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posted November 07, 2014 02:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Mars/Saturn is generally a good aspect in marital synastries, regardless the aspect, a DW even better. But it requires for both partners to have this archetype positively integrated within themselves: Mars/Saturn means work, combining action with discipline, initiative with restraint etc. It's a good aspect for long-term sexuality.


I agree with that overall. If you're not friends with your SATURN, then there's nothing like the push of MARS to get you to make that connexion.

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posted November 07, 2014 05:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyKitty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your synastry has DW mar conjunct saturn?

How it effect your relationship anyway?

I must ask because if either of you , doesn't get use to the saturn energy on Mars , it can be very uncomfortable to the rooftop

Then , how this only aspect show in your relationship ,it depend on the rest of both chart. If individual has mars contact saturn , maybe it is not too difficult to handles.


I want to give you example, I have moon square saturn , saturn conjunct sun in natals . So my partner has his saturn conjunct my Moon ! But I could live with that , atleast it last like 7 years . Then , last relationship , my-ex has his saturn square my mars . I can't stay in this relationship , although everythings in the chart is so smooth but only this aspect I just can't . Because I have a powerfull mars . My mars conjunct uranus in scorpio , and this conjuct sextile jupiter and AC . No One can mest with my mars

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posted November 07, 2014 06:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by wheresthemoon:


My only saturn aspect is jupiter opposite saturn.
My saturn is in my seventh house.
No aspect between our Mars. I have my Mars in cancer in the twelfth (and in his fourth house), he has his mars in Gemini in his fourth house (and my eleventh house).

Well, this makes you very saturnian as a partner and it also means you need a saturnian partner. Was he? Did you have sexual compatibility aspects? Mars to Venus, Mars to Moon, Sun/Moon, 5th/8th/1st/2nd rulers, 1st 2nd 8th 5th overlays?

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posted November 07, 2014 10:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wheresthemoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Well, this makes you very saturnian as a partner and it also means you need a saturnian partner. Was he? Did you have sexual compatibility aspects? Mars to Venus, Mars to Moon, Sun/Moon, 5th/8th/1st/2nd rulers, 1st 2nd 8th 5th overlays?


His first house ruler (Neptune) is conjunct my Uranus, and square my sun.
His fifth house ruler (moon) is conjunct my Jupiter, quintile my Venus, semi-sextile my mars, opposite my saturn and conjunct my ascendant.
His seventh house ruler (mercury) is trine my Uranus.
His eighth house ruler (Venus) is quintile my Pluto and semi-square my ascendant.
Also my ascendant falls in his fifth house.

My first house ruler (moon) is square his sun and conjunct his Uranus.
My fifth house ruler (Pluto) is sextile his sun, sextile his saturn, is quintile his Venus and semi-square his Uranus.
My seventh house ruler (saturn) is trine his mars, opposite his Jupiter, sesquiquadrate his sun, opposite his moon, semi-sextile his ascendant, and semi-sextile his Uranus.
My eighth house ruler (Uranus) is sextile his Pluto, trine his mercury, and conjunct his saturn.
Also his ascendant falls in my eighth house.

My Venus is also trine his sun and my mars is trine his ascendant. The only aspect we have between his moon and my mars is the semi-sextile. We have my Venus opposite his Pluto (I have it natally and he's born within the same year) and his Venus is quintile my Pluto as I mentioned above. We also have the asteroid Eros squaring each other's sun.

ETA: yes he is Saturnian in some ways (stable in his love, fatherly, controlling, very focused on being a provider, etc.), but in other ways he's a total loose cannon. Which I don't like.

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posted December 19, 2014 03:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
This is one of those which can go either way. The closer the aspect, the stronger the impact will obviously be. Everything depends upon which houses are ruled, in which ones they're placed, and how each planet is positioned natally.

Auby,
I have this aspect currently with someone and let me tell you its exact! omg and its one way I'm the mars and she's the saturn gooooddd i feel like I'm the one mostly wanting to engage intimately than her buuut we both have mars signs as in we both have mars in capricorn and both of our natals are cardinal heavy (lots of capricorn/taurus). should this play out fine?? how can i manage this mars conjoint saturn??

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posted December 20, 2014 08:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for manderin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It means that the main thing that keeps you together is the sex.

Not considering of coarse ALL the other aspects that would be in the chart too.

Barring all other chart considerations- this conjunction can denote a relationship of **** buddies who remain **** buddies for a LONG time rather than the usual short time span or one to two night stands that might've otherwise occured between the two. Can be a good or bad configuration depending on other factors.

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posted December 20, 2014 10:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peony     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've had Mars conjunct Saturn in one relationship. The man could not have sex and the relationship was platonic. I was Mars and he was Saturn. It ended though for other reasons.

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posted December 20, 2014 10:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have this a lot cos I have the natal conj, and I interact with a lot if libra mars people for some reason. I'm much more decisive in comparison. I don't have as much of a need to be partnered either, and I think that can put them off, so there's a limit I guess on how much we share/have in common. We still get along for the most, but I do notice from my pov certain definite dislikes, that when shared lead to breaks in understanding.
However my first boyfriend all the way way back, he had the same conj as me, conj mine. We were fine.

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posted December 21, 2014 01:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini Blues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My parents had Mars conjunct Saturn DW. The marriage had plenty of ups and downs and lasted twenty-some years. Even after it was done, there was a lifetime connection between them.

Just to make it more interesting...
Her Sat, his Mars conj my Sun
His Sat, her Mars conj my Venus and NN

We were a close family.

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posted December 21, 2014 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by manderin:
It means that the main thing that keeps you together is the sex.

Not considering of coarse ALL the other aspects that would be in the chart too.

Barring all other chart considerations- this conjunction can denote a relationship of **** buddies who remain **** buddies for a LONG time rather than the usual short time span or one to two night stands that might've otherwise occured between the two. Can be a good or bad configuration depending on other factors.


yeah I'm actually not sex buddies with my partner but to give you a clue we both have saturn conjunct mars(me) in synastry which falls in the 3rd house. her saturn falls in the 3rd house and my mars falls in 3rd house as well....could this mean clash on communication? or engaging conversations??

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