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posted November 06, 2014 12:51 PM            

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Theres major stelliums in both the 12 and 1st house. NN is in the 12th but the Sun is in the 1st

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posted November 06, 2014 12:52 PM            

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take a look...

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posted November 06, 2014 04:06 PM            

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Nice composite. Not easy though. Whatever happens in the 12th, is brought into the 1st.

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posted November 06, 2014 05:06 PM            

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looks difficult to me. the venus/sun conjunction opposed to Jupiter gives a really loving and enjoyable relationship. but pluto forms a T-square. this usually shows that personal ambition drives the relationship. pluto also bring unseen motives and selfishness.
not a good aspect for a committed relationship as there is no emphasis on togetherness.

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posted November 06, 2014 05:42 PM            

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And what are the aspects showing an emphasis on togetherness? What about the positive effects of Pluto squares? Nada?

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posted November 06, 2014 09:45 PM            

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Karmic. Certain debts and issues will be shown by the 12H emphasis and what points are there.

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posted November 06, 2014 11:12 PM            

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thanks so much for the response. obviously this wudnt be a smooth ride but as long as its positive growth that doesnt make me feel miserable or shell shocked during/after lol. 12th house says karma to me or subconscious/hidden things at work in a relationship but i have trouble putting the big picture together with these. we are both ambitious ppl so maybe the pluto square affect will show there but so far idk about any selfish motives..yet

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posted November 06, 2014 11:40 PM            

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help me understand?

this is the synastry [IMG]http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii55/fionapinapple/astro_61gw_01 _57_michele_oliver166652477.gif[/IMG]

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posted November 07, 2014 12:00 AM            

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To truly understand a karmic relationship, we must break down the composite, synastry, and Draco charts. It's a process.

Your cSUN and cMOON are in a loose quincunx. While the male and female energies are out of balance, evidence of a soulmate relationship from your past is clear from the 1° 12H EROS conjunct PSYCHE.

Now be mindful you've got cCHIRON conjunct cDSC, too. This is a 'Chironic relationship' designed to inspire catharsis and healing. No; not an easy road. It takes dedication and the willingness to confront long-disowned demons. You'll both bring out a lot of the worst in each other so that you may both heal these issues in each other. The trick is sticking with it when that starts happening.

I'm afraid 'shell-shocked misery' is too often par for the course, and hardwired into the process. These relationships are HARD. But they're about growth, development, transformation, and ultimate healing.

But at cursory glance, I see a soulmate relationship. Definitely. You have karmic debts to clear (which can be seen in the synastry) and certain objectives to achieve as a couple (which is told by the composites -- both tropical and Draconic).

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posted November 07, 2014 12:17 AM            

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Thank u Aubyanne!!!

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posted November 07, 2014 02:05 AM            

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Originally posted by Fionapineapple:
Thank u Aubyanne!!!

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No problem.

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