posted November 09, 2014 03:39 PM              

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
how am i arrogant?

you just cannot understand how beautiful you are so you are mirroring that on to me. i am confident and sure of myself and have evolved into this person.

im not going to say i don't know anything.. because its not true. like i said if you want to act like you don't possess any knowledge that is ignorance in my opinion. i could say negative things about you.. but i choose not to because at the end of the day.. you're responsible for you.

humans are so sad sometimes.well, good bye then.

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You donīt even realize how abusive this whole tirade about me was, do you?
Including some of the other posts, not just the last one I mean.

posted November 09, 2014 03:41 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
An important question for me: who are these people you call your Twins, KarmicMoon and Athene? Your current boyfriend/husband? Former boyfriends? A distant crush? Someone romancing you, with whom there's a chance of being together?

I have some couples in my database whom I suspect of Twinflaming because of the beauty of their love relationship reflected in the beauty of their astrology. I wouldn't even dare telling someone "he's your Twin" unless they are together in a love relationship. And I wouldn't consider someone as my Twin unless there's at least a very strong chance for us to be together. I too have met my personal Twin in a vision.

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I am in contact with my twin. There are challenges, which all TF's have. I've meantioned some things before. I'm not going to discuss our personal relationship because of our situation.

posted November 09, 2014 03:42 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

You donīt even realize how abusive this whole tirade about me was, do you?
Including some of the other posts, not just the last one I mean.

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posted November 09, 2014 03:44 PM            

and we are both awakened, both aware,

posted November 09, 2014 03:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
MAN, I cannot wait until everyone suddenly realises that we ALL COME FROM THE SAME PLACE, and religion is JUST FLAVOURS of THAT PLACE.

Okay, off my soapbox. Sorry about that, but I HAD to.

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posted November 09, 2014 03:47 PM              

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
All religion to me is the same. Flawed and has failed. Its goal was to teach the correct manner for people to live. which is obedience to God. However people, being so unsure of themselves RE CERI made God into a high ideal that lives outside of themselves that they can never become. Its sad.

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What is sad is reading your posts, Athene. You believe you're an enlightened being. One can always discern megalomania from enlightenment by the presence of modesty, love and tolerance for the other's knowledge and beliefs. At this point, you don't posses this crucial ingredient for enlightenment.

I can see this by the way you treated Ceri alone. She gave you a polite negative answer and you chose to offend her, you chose rudeness. Drop it.

posted November 09, 2014 03:48 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
What is sad is reading your posts, Athene. You believe you're an enlightened being. One can always discern megalomania from enlightenment by the presence of modesty, love and tolerance for the other's knowledge and beliefs. At this point, you don't posses this crucial ingredient for enlightenment.

I can see this by the way you treated Ceri alone. She gave you a polite negative answer and you chose to offend her, you chose rudeness. Drop it.

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First of all you don't know what I do in my time so you need not go there. second of all i never offended her at all. i said the truth.

HA and i don't BeLIEve anything!

posted November 09, 2014 03:49 PM            

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Originally posted by KarmicMoon:
I am in contact with my twin. There are challenges, which all TF's have. I've meantioned some things before. I'm not going to discuss our personal relationship because of our situation.

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And, see? That's a cop out. I'm sorry, but a spade's a spade. You can use aliases, and be oblique, just like the rest of us. But when it's so shrouded in mystery because 'of our situation', I just ... I have very little patience for that kind of drama. I'll be honest. Don't overcomplicate. Be plain, be clear.

If you want to share your story, to commiserate and gain greater understanding -- great! That's important. It helps us to all gain a better foothold when everything starts rocking to and fro. It certainly did for me.

Personally, I'm becoming increasingly sceptical of what 'Twin Flames' even MEAN. Or what purpose it even serves.

It seems too many women want the 'Twin Flame' rubber-stamp for the wrong reasons, in my experience. To justify their spending years on a dead-end potential relationship that's doing nothing but draining their energy and wasting their time; conversely, to be the push they need to marry someone they may be rightfully having REAL qualms about.

posted November 09, 2014 03:53 PM            

When I rubber-stamp a Twin Flame relationship, it's not without thorough examination, and thoughtful contemplation -- as well as meditation -- on the situation and the two individuals involved. I know this information means a LOT to a person (the one enquiring about it) and, a lot of the time, it's an analytical process.

Oh, sure, every now and again, I'll get those bizarre dreams like the one involving Ceri, which confirms for me that it's a multidimensional relationship -- which, in and of itself, does NOT mean it's a Twin Flame. Certainly is important, though.

I think this Essence theory needs greater consideration. To me, that's feeling a lot closer to 'reality' than the conventional Twin Flame notion. Granted, the one part I really DID grok was the bit about the Oversoul, and the many pairs of Twin Flames, and the extraterrestrial royalty (with many Atlantean lifetimes) in the midst of it all -- because that's the story I created with my Twin. And WHAT are the odds?

posted November 09, 2014 03:55 PM              

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:

It seems too many women want the 'Twin Flame' rubber-stamp for the wrong reasons, in my experience. To justify their spending years on a dead-end potential relationship that's doing nothing but draining their energy and wasting their time; conversely, to be the push they need to marry someone they may be rightfully having REAL qualms about.

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Sadly, this is how it looks.

posted November 09, 2014 03:56 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
And, see? That's a cop out. I'm sorry, but a spade's a spade. You can use aliases, and be oblique, just like the rest of us. But when it's so shrouded in mystery because 'of our situation', I just ... I have very little patience for that kind of drama. I'll be honest. Don't overcomplicate. Be plain, be clear.

If you want to share your story, to commiserate and gain greater understanding -- great! That's important. It helps us to all gain a better foothold when everything starts rocking to and fro. It certainly did for me.

Personally, I'm becoming increasingly sceptical of what 'Twin Flames' even MEAN. Or what purpose it even serves.

It seems too many women want the 'Twin Flame' rubber-stamp for the wrong reasons, in my experience. To justify their spending years on a dead-end potential relationship that's doing nothing but draining their energy and wasting their time; conversely, to be the push they need to marry someone they may be rightfully having REAL qualms about.

Marrying your Twin Flame doesn't guarantee a happy ending, either. Nothing honestly, truly, does. That's the scary part.

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I agree with you. I don't believe that marrying my TF is a happy ending. I don't see it has just some romantic connection. It isn't about that at all.

posted November 09, 2014 03:57 PM            

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Originally posted by KarmicMoon:
Amen.

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posted November 09, 2014 04:00 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I think that's BS. When you'll TRULY meet your Twin Flame, you'll definitely marry him (be with him) because neither you nor him could do otherwise.

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posted November 09, 2014 04:00 PM              

I'm gonna speak like Athene now (I'm not enlightened either): did you guys study Logic in school?

posted November 09, 2014 04:02 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Don't yall see how absurd this idea is? Reaching an ideal and being somewhere else?
Meeting your Twin Soul, but being somewhere else?

I'm gonna speak like Athene now (I'm not enlightened either): did you guys study Logic in school?

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posted November 09, 2014 04:03 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Sadly, this is how it looks.

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And THAT's what bothers me. Heck, it's gotten to the point where (forgive me, KarmicMoon) but I'm even just a little too jaded to where I can't even do what I'm apparently supposed to do, which is help everyone find each other.

I think, if the next person who suspects they're a Twin Flame, comes to me and says something more akin to:

This person has changed my entire view of reality. I always felt like I was supposed to contribute to humanity in a powerful way, but I didn't know how. Through our friendship, I feel that my destiny is unfolding before me, and I understand my unique purpose. I was wondering, what can the astrology tell me, and us, about our purpose here together, whatever it is?'

NOW I'm REALLY listening. It's not easy to have someone completely wreck your concept of reality. Not. At. All.

But most often it has the ring of:

'I'm so in love! I think they're my Twin Flame.'

Or

'I dream of him so much and I just KNOW he's with me all of the time. He MUST be my Twin Flame.'

(Quick insert: YOU don't count, Ceri. I KNOW enough to know what YOU'VE been through; unfortunately, there have been more than a few claiming to walk that path in subsequent times.)

And maybe they are. Maybe they aren't.

I wish they'd just be HAPPY with the fact they're SO IN LOVE.

posted November 09, 2014 04:04 PM              

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Originally posted by KarmicMoon:
Oh, we are going to be together. I just am saying I don't believe he is somehow my savior. I am my own savior. And I'm not sure I want to marry again. Marriage is not that important to me anymore.

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I meant being with him Obviously when Twin Souls meet, after a small preparation, they cannot stay apart - it's common sense.

posted November 09, 2014 04:06 PM            

i can tell once we do get together intimately people better watch out. haha...

posted November 09, 2014 04:07 PM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Yup I'm going to marry mine. I have constant images of me walking down the aisle even had a dream of the wedding once and we are going to have three kids together.

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