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Aubyanne
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posted September 10, 2015 10:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by EmGem:
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I have always astral travelled and had access to other dimensions but its not something i can easily relax into. I find it a little scary. And as I said before, I have visitors come to me while i'm trying to sleep. Very unnerving.

Edit: do you think that when we dream, we are dreaming of the other person or parts of ourselves or both?


Dimensional travel and dreaming are two totally different things. I'm learning that, for some of us who are less able to shut down their logical minds, dreaming (theta and delta wave state) may be the only time our brains CAN actually travel. And, thus, that leaves dreaming. But I can always tell when I've travelled, even if I was only half-lucid. I never 'awaken'; I was always in some sort of trance state from which I don't awaken as much as simply open my eyes. Odd, considering that I'm thinking I must be going into REM, but it may only be delta wave state. That's going to take more focussed research.

It can be daunting, and unnerving. Although, I'll be honest; when I realised I was travelling to other eigenstates, I did get pretty excited. A little nervous, too. But then I've lucid dreamt all of my life, and half-lucid travelling is 80% of my dreaming life. Over time, I've created 'cues' to determine whether I'm dreaming or not, if things are getting a bit surreal, and I know how to verify I'm dreaming when in the dreamstate. My own personal 'spinning top', as it were. (Something Chris Nolan and I have very much in common.)

But there are a few 'quirks' that it's been tough getting used to. Having two separate memory tracks running simultaneously is a little confusing at first, for example. Such as realising that my karmic soulmate and I are best buds, and he lives in LA. Then immediately finding the 'evidence' thereafter on my phone -- tonnes of photos we'd taken, and, in this sort of slightly uncertain voice, calling him with a feature on my phone which -- sadly -- is not actually on my phone. And realising how many times I've done this.

That was the first 'trip' back in March. I thought it was a one-off, until it happened again in July. That one was bizarre. It started the same way -- the 'transition' -- for lack of better, but this time, I had full telepathy with my twin. He was 'present' but not physically there. I could communicate with him with ease this way.

A prevailing thought when visiting eigenstates which are closely related to my primarily-viewed one, is to be very mindful of how I interact with others. Strange, how that was a strong thought the first time, so, when I 'returned', I was very conscious of it, and made it a point to -- cautiously -- interact with my stepdaughter.

I was able to 'check' that this was a closely related eigenstate trip by her later revealing an important detail. She had just stepped from the bath and had her hair wrapped in a light green towel. Our conversation was nothing eventful; I was sort of giddy, and she was looking at me with mild confusion over why I was so oddly cheerful. I lied, of course. Though I'll flat out tell people when they were present in a dream of mine -- in the dream itself, as it's happening -- I wasn't sure of 'these rules' yet, and didn't want to throw something off kilter. Paranoid, yes, but it's not a bad move.

Later, as we were leaving, I noticed the light green towel folded on the hamper in the bathroom where we'd had our conversation 'over there'. While it's arguably a curious question, I asked if she'd used it at any point during the trip, (we were staying in my adolescent home in my hometown with my parents) and she said she hadn't -- but that she'd thought to. She even volunteered, 'I was going to wrap my hair up in it, but then I forgot that I don't actually know how to do that.'

The scientist in me was thrilled by this news. Everett, per the many-worlds hypothesis theorises how each eigenstate is independently created with every decision we make. An alternate eigenstate emerges with the choice we didn't make. If we were deciding between a banana and muffin for breakfast, and we chose the banana here, elsewhere we got the muffin -- that sort of thing.

And so, here, she couldn't wrap her hair properly in said towel, but there, she knew how to, and did so.

Really, 'time travel' -- which is, in essence, dimensional travel or eigenstate-shifting -- can be truly mundane, and almost -- almost -- boring. Unless you're very conscious of everything that's happening, and taking notes. Heh!

I'm kind of flabbergasted that I was actually fully lucid my second trip, and got to apply all of the theories, or test whatever I'd been evaluating, 'over here' for the 4 months' interim. I remember being very disheartened after that single trip in March -- and absolutely stunned when it happened in July.

Needless to say, I don't have control over it yet. But I'm learning it's possible, the signs to look for, and how to monitor my experiences very closely when 'there'.

MORPHEUS is a good one. I'll have to look that one up again as well. I know that my twin and I have it prominently in our synastry.

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posted September 10, 2015 11:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah the dream I started this post over was definitely astral travel now I am even more certain of it; I remember opening my eyes and my body feeling this rush and shock from the intensity of the travel and our experience together reuniting in this plane. I remember feeling for like an hour after like I was still there with him even though I was "up." Its like I hadn't transition fully back.

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posted September 10, 2015 11:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"The scientist in me was thrilled by this news. Everett, per the many-worlds hypothesis theorises how each eigenstate is independently created with every decision we make. An alternate eigenstate emerges with the choice we didn't make. If we were deciding between a banana and muffin for breakfast, and we chose the banana here, elsewhere we got the muffin -- that sort of thing."

When I was a kid I would stress about that. I was born with this idea that that any decision I make no matter how small can alter the course of things, I made a conscious decision at a young age to stop worrying about it though...

I also had this idea that I had power/magic in me but only If I got angry enough it would unleash, perhaps that is magion conjunct KLIO exact with Juno conjunct Hecate exact. I avoid magic though.

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posted September 11, 2015 12:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Auby!

"Pholus in the 4th: Changes are studied and patterns of timespace arrange for insight with Pholus nadiring."

I have pholus in the 4th actually but I am guessing you must have it conjunct exact your IC! Is that so? I feel it would explain a lot..

BTW my MOON conjuncts your TARDIS exact.

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posted September 11, 2015 01:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ail221:
Tardis opp my Eros/Psyche/Asc

Figures I'd be a attracted to trans dimensional beings


Pholus in the 7th can also do that..

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posted September 11, 2015 01:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 11, 2015 03:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh yes certainly different things dream and astral travel. Was just curious as to people's opinions on meeting others in the dream world and your take on it.
Re Astra travel, I've heard it happens to most of us but those of us who are conscious of it appear to find it difficult to relax and hence feel ourselves journeying to other dimensions, because of our restless souls.
Something I was told by a psychic but who knows..

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posted November 21, 2015 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dreamt of him today. Transit Endymion is opposing under 1d our composite Endymion conjunct Selene.

Transit Endymion in Pisces @6d05
Composite Selene in Virgo @5d31
Composite Endymion in Virgo @6d58

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posted November 21, 2015 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Why Uranus??

Transit Uranus is squaring our davison northnode by about 4 orbs....

In davison we do have composite uranus trine composite anubis by one orb and transit Hypno conjuncted composite Uranus on this day which simultaneously conjucted my chart ruler and his eros and telephus.


I THINK I HAVE JUST FOUND OUT WHY WE ALL OUR DREAMING OF OUR SOULMATES; IT IS A TRANSIT, LOL:

ON THIS DAY [b]TRANSIT PSYCHE WAS CONJUNCTING TRANSIT ANUBIS (SOULMATES MEETING IN THE ASTRAL PLANE). PERHAPS OUR COMPOSITES OR NATALS ARE BEEN ACTIVATED BY THIS TRANSIT CONJUNCTION.

TRANSIT PSYCHE IS CONJUNCTING EXACT MY EX SOUTHNODE AND TRANSIT ANUBIS IS CONJUNCTING BY ONE ORB MY EX SOUTHNODE.

His Southnode: Aqua at 14 deg 36
Transit Psyche: Aqua at 14 deg 30
Transit Anabis: Aqua at 13 deg 19
My Draco Juno: Aqua at 14 deg

All this in combo with eros conjunct psyche in davison progress by less than one orb and transit Osiris conjuncting our midpoint composite Isis explains the dream and the nature of it.

I have to say I have been noticing for quite some time now that asteroids whether natally or by transit influence our dreams. It makes you really wonder? how "fake" are our dreams really? Are they really glimpses of other parallel universes?

What do you Auby and Ceri think about all this too? Is the anubis-psyche transit inst it?[/B]


Why Uranus??

Uranus rules astral projection, out of the body experience,vivid dreams etc. it is the access point to the astral plane and the akashic records.

90% of the time Uranus is a primary factor in these experiences.

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posted November 21, 2015 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That would make sense. I have Uranus in the 12th conjunct my ASC and these experiences happen to me A LOT.

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posted November 21, 2015 10:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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That would make sense. I have Uranus in the 12th conjunct my ASC and these experiences happen to me A LOT.

Huh. MOON conjunct URA along with HORUS. 3H. Scorpio. I never quite got the Uranian interpretation for this, either, but it vibes.

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posted November 22, 2015 03:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do have an exact conjunction between Jupiter my chart ruler and Uranus in the 12th applying but I feel there are a lot of other indicators like Morpheus god of dreams right on my AC conjuncting Neptune with Shcrodinger opposing Neptune and this opposition squaring my Sun-Horus.

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posted November 22, 2015 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blind writer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Huh. MOON conjunct URA along with HORUS. 3H. Scorpio. I never quite got the Uranian interpretation for this, either, but it vibes.

Uh, MERC-URA-MC, 9H? C'mon, now. :P

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posted November 22, 2015 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Uh, MERC-URA-MC, 9H? C'mon, now. :P

....and she comes out of hybernation mode! So you dream a lot and astral travel?

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posted November 22, 2015 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blind writer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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....and she comes out of hybernation mode! So you dream a lot and astral travel?

I've been grieving.

But yes, I meet up with Aubyanne from time to time. Usually in far more "exciting" times.

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posted November 22, 2015 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I've been grieving.

But yes, I meet up with Aubyanne from time to time. Usually in far more "exciting" times.


Sorry to hear that! I hope your healing has a turning point soon and things start to look brighter again.

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posted November 22, 2015 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blind writer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Sorry to hear that! I hope your healing has a turning point soon and things start to look brighter again.

Had my LACRIMOSA return at the time with brutal tSATURN tossed in. tSATURN is slowly crawling toward my SUN right now, too. I can't get much lower, so I have to hope that things will improve. My solar return (in a few days) is a mixed bag, and I don't know what to make of it. (It's a miracle I can spell correctly, much less analyze anything in-depth.)

I had dreams where my girl was back and well, and while those hurt on waking to harsh reality, I haven't had any lately, and that's a whole other level of loneliness (I think to myself, "why can't I find her, here nor there?"). I'm kind of lost right now, so I get disoriented easily by Other States.

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posted November 22, 2015 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Had my LACRIMOSA return at the time with brutal tSATURN tossed in. tSATURN is slowly crawling toward my SUN right now, too. I can't get much lower, so I have to hope that things will improve. My solar return (in a few days) is a mixed bag, and I don't know what to make of it. (It's a miracle I can spell correctly, much less analyze anything in-depth.)

I had dreams where my girl was back and well, and while those hurt on waking to harsh reality, I haven't had any lately, and that's a whole other level of loneliness (I think to myself, "why can't I find her, here nor there?"). I'm kind of lost right now, so I get disoriented easily by Other States.


I feel you! Its nice to see people we love in our dreams that we dont see on our waking life, to me that is a gift to see them at least in our dreams but I don't have control of when I can see them in my dream or if...

Are you referring to your daughter?

Transit Lacrimosa is on my AC, just passed it, it was exact on my AC on Friday by 0.01. Yep I have been feeling lousy, my Period finally arrived Friday early after delaying for almost 3 weeks something that never happens and I am thinking that Transit Pandora right on my Venus this month trining my AC and inconjuncting my Moon had something to do with messing the rhythm of my cycle. It has been an odd month.

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posted November 22, 2015 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blind writer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I feel you! Its nice to see people we love in our dreams that we dont see on our waking life, to me that is a gift to see them at least in our dreams but I don't have control of when I can see them in my dream or if...

Are you referring to your daughter?

Transit Lacrimosa is on my AC, just passed it, it was exact on my AC on Friday by 0.01. Yep I have been feeling lousy, my Period finally arrived Friday early after delaying for almost 3 weeks something that never happens and I am thinking that Transit Pandora right on my Venus this month trining my AC and inconjuncting my Moon had something to do with messing the rhythm of my cycle. It has been an odd month.


I like to think she adopted me, rather than the other way around. It was practically love at first sight, and we were as close as can be. She was my dear heart, my light and joy. She was a veritable piece of me, and now after only 11 years, she's just suddenly gone, torn away by cancer.

Trying to control dreams and astral travel is like trying to predict who you're going to encounter during the day. You can try, even think it likely, but you never really know. So-and-so may call in sick, or maybe you get sick, or maybe things get hectic and your so-called plans fly out the window. You can always try, but there are no guarantees. Your analogy of a "gift" is appropriate.

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posted November 22, 2015 07:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I like to think she adopted me, rather than the other way around. It was practically love at first sight, and we were as close as can be. She was my dear heart, my light and joy. She was a veritable piece of me, and now after only 11 years, she's just suddenly gone, torn away by cancer.

Trying to control dreams and astral travel is like trying to predict who you're going to encounter during the day. You can try, even think it likely, but you never really know. So-and-so may call in sick, or maybe you get sick, or maybe things get hectic and your so-called plans fly out the window. You can always try, but there are no guarantees. Your analogy of a "gift" is appropriate.


That must hurt so much, I am so sorry just thinking about it gets my eyes watery. The love for a child specially one you adopted and clicked with in such a deep level right away is something hard to put in words but is definitely a beautiful priceless gift to experience and I can imagine its hell to experience it slipping away through your fingers like that. Just know that I am sure you made such a huge difference for her in her life, to have you there an not be alone through that must have meant the world to her. I am sorry.

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posted November 23, 2015 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Uh, MERC-URA-MC, 9H? C'mon, now. :P

Yeah, and who do I contact to confirm if we've had a shift? Though, it took me a long time to realise I was the one shifting. Though, you gotta admit, it was kinda intriguing how many times we were shifting at the same time.

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posted November 23, 2015 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I've been grieving.

But yes, I meet up with Aubyanne from time to time. Usually in far more "exciting" times.


Code for 'okay, which of us saved the day last time? Maybe we should draw straws.'

If only I were being hyperbolic. We tend to bump into each other's 'trail', too. She also helped me to independently confirm the Guardian Soul theory. Now if I can just figure out enough about it to provide more legitimate guidance, rather than grasping here.

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posted November 23, 2015 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blind writer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yeah, and who do I contact to confirm if we've had a shift? Though, it took me a long time to realise I was the one shifting. Though, you gotta admit, it was kinda intriguing how many times we were shifting at the same time.

Man, you reminded me of that one period where it was like BAM-BAM-BAM in just a few weeks. Like someone was doing construction work on the multiverse, and we had to dodge falling paint cans.

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posted November 23, 2015 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Man, you reminded me of that one period where it was like BAM-BAM-BAM in just a few weeks. Like someone was doing construction work on the multiverse, and we had to dodge falling paint cans.

That's the best description of it, too. Yeah, that was insane. I'm so glad that we both felt oddly 'prolific'. Had I not written so much of that down -- even in scattered places, and more shorthand -- I wouldn't have been able to make so many important connexions later.

But it'll always boggle my mind how we both had those intense travels all along that same week. Though, I didn't even begin fully lucidly travelling until the DW of tCHIRON-TARDIS, and tTARDIS-CHIRON. I'm gonna say tPSYCHE was in there, too. I think it started out travelling with tPSYCHE and then just hit my CHIRON like mad.

So it would've been smacking yours around, too. Your TARDIS is in ... mid-Aries, I'm guessing?

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posted November 24, 2015 02:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blind writer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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That's the best description of it, too. Yeah, that was insane. I'm so glad that we both felt oddly 'prolific'. Had I not written so much of that down -- even in scattered places, and more shorthand -- I wouldn't have been able to make so many important connexions later.

But it'll always boggle my mind how we both had those intense travels all along that same week. Though, I didn't even begin fully lucidly travelling until the DW of tCHIRON-TARDIS, and tTARDIS-CHIRON. I'm gonna say tPSYCHE was in there, too. I think it started out travelling with tPSYCHE and then just hit my CHIRON like mad.

So it would've been smacking yours around, too. Your TARDIS is in ... mid-Aries, I'm guessing?


Actually, it's conjunct yours, at Pis 20°, less than a degree. :P

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