posted November 12, 2014 02:42 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Auby,

according to Robert Blashke Dracos are about the ongoing soulcontracts, while sidereal are about completion of karma.

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posted November 12, 2014 02:49 AM            

Maybe the transiting nodal axis really activates the timeframes when we are completing some karma. I mean what other astrological symbol would be better equipped to show this than the nodes?

How we go about it in practical terms, I am actually not sure.

i think though that if we have strong sidereal-tropical aspects in a synastry (I am talking about conjunctions within let`s say 2-3 degrees), it might represent a huge draw for the people involved, however that period of nearly compulsive attraction is maybe just the hook that lures you in to start working on the karmic story, and once it is dealt with there is the real possibility that you will go separate ways, unless of course you ahve very strong tropical and draconic aspects, including progressions.

posted November 12, 2014 03:22 AM            

Rather miraculously, PREY is now 4º from my CHIRON, and CHIRON is conjunct his HADES (0º10) and TISIPHONE (1º30). As opposed to being 1º30 conjunct HADES, and 0º30 conjunct TISIPHONE in our Tropical synastry. If that isn't crazy? Wow.

So, what are your thoughts, Ceri?

My sidereal NODES are 23º CAN/CAP, meaning that the 22º-23º ARIES is right on the MP, illustrating a 'skipped step'. Further, his sidereal NODES are 10º ARIES/LIBRA.

This is absolutely boggling. I'm just not sure how to explore the timing element here. If that's a window for karma clearing -- the NODES from 22º to 10º LIBRA/ARIES, that would actually make a LOT of sense. Maybe the reason I've been feeling so overwhelmed is that this IS the timeframe, and I have NO idea what to do.

We've got major Draco-Tropical conjunctions and linkages, too, so I'm not worried about everything ending because karma is cleared. I think, conversely, it would be the real beginning, if you know what I mean. I feel like it's ... happening. Except I keep being bogged down by that inexplicable fear. The way he just SCARES me, and there's NO reason for him to. None. It's starting to really wear on me.

posted November 12, 2014 03:37 AM            

My drMADHATTER is 24°.

So, there's also that.

posted November 12, 2014 04:22 AM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
So, JUST conjunctions under 2º in the Sidereal synastry? Not Sidereal to Tropical?

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posted November 12, 2014 05:10 AM            

2. Draconic to Natal comparisons In Synastry. Draconic charts have proven themselves valuable to me in synastric analysis, hands-down. But that’s an entirely different blog post. In draconic to F/B natal comparisons with my loved ones or significant people in my life, tight conjunctions or oppositions are common. Much more common than draconic to tropical contacts, I’ve found. I have also endlessly analyzed synastry between couples, whether married or dating, and found synastry between draconic and F/B sidereal charts to be exceptionally revealing and helpful in understanding relationship dynamics.

posted November 12, 2014 09:26 AM            

for the same reason sidereal to sidereal does not make sense either, as the angular distance stays (roughly) the same.

so we are talking about FB sidereal chart to either tropical or Draco chart.

posted November 12, 2014 09:40 AM            

For example, my stellium in Sagittarius around the ASC (ASC, Mars, Neptune, NN, Lust, Angel etc.) ends up sidereally in Scorpio.
in fact the sidereal ASC-Mars-Lust-Angel especially ends up right on my Draconic Eros-Vertex-Sun/Moon-mp.

I notice several interesting links between my sidereal and my own tropical chart (only using conjunctions and oppositions).

sIC conjunct Jupiter (1) and Ceres (1)
- which naturally puts my sidereal IC-MC-axis onto that important opposition in our synastry, for him sidereal Ceres, Karma and Destinn fall there (I know you do not like Destinn, but I still find it very valid)-

sSun and sMercury conjunct Amor (1-2)

sMoon conjunct Sun/Moon-mp and Avx and Arthur and opposing Eros-Destinn
(and conjunct the tropical composite Moon exact)

sVenus conjunct Neptune-NN (1) and more widely ASC (4)

sJupiter conjunct Moon (1)

sUranus conjunct Pluto-MC (2-3)

sNeptune-NN conjunct Siva-Lancelot-Moira-London exact

sPluto conjunct Persephone (1)

sAVX conjunct Sun-Mercury (2)
sVertex conjunct Nessus (1)

sCeres conjunct Moon (2)

sJuno conjunct Psyche (2)

sVesta conjunct ASC-Lust-Angel exact
sVesta conjunct Mars-Neptune-NN as well

sPholus conjunct Pallas (2)

sKarma conjunct Odysseus exact

sDestinn conjunct Nessus exact
sDestinn opposite Sun-Mercury-Sheba-King-Caesar-Robinhood-Sekhmet-Reiki-Circe-Jung-Tesla (did I forget something? lol)

sEros conjunct Nessus (2)
sEros opposite Sun-Mercury exact (plus Caesar-Kleopatra-Nofretete etc.)

sPsyche conjunct Anubis (1)

sAmor conjunct Eros/Psyche-mp (0)
sAmor opposite Part of Marriage and Actor (0)

sValentine conjunct Uranus (2)

sPriapus opposite Venus (1)

sAlma conjunct Jupiter (1)

sUnion and shCupido conjunct MC exact

sAphrodite opposite Juno (2)

sAdonis conjunct MC (3)

posted November 12, 2014 09:46 AM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
I would look at conjunctions under 2 degrees orb. Then i would look at this lifetime and see when the transiting Nodes were activating the conjunction. if they haven't activated it yet, most likely the karma is still not done with.

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posted November 12, 2014 02:14 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
interesting
http://theastrologylab.com/2013/03/23/how-i-approach-astrology-faga nbradley-sidereal-and-draconic-analysis/

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posted November 12, 2014 05:16 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I agree with you, Auby.
It`s not one or the other, but it is a merging of the system. You just have to know how to apply each one. The sidereal is just as valid as the tropical one, but putting the tropical definitions onto the sidreal ones will lead to wrong results and hence someone doing this will come to the conclusion it is crap and wrong.
But actually not the zodiac is wrong, but our application and understanding of it is lacking or too simplistic or too generalistic.

Obviously that is just my opinion.

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