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Topic: Revisiting quindecile (165° aspect of obsession) in synastry
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Lavender CrystalSwan
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posted November 23, 2014 04:40 PM
 
So I thought I would make another thread to try and gather more thoughts/experiences on how this mysterious aspect REALLY manifests itself in synastry. My personal opinion is that it produces an energy that is twice, if not more intense than any of the energies the major aspects produce, because of the element of obsessiveness and focus associated with it. Let's say for instance, one has a Venus/Mars quindecile in a synastry.
It would be interpreted just like a major aspect, expect on crack, with a more Plutonian vibe.
I can confirm this based on my own synastries with quindeciles, and we had no major Pluto aspects or 8th house things going on, and nor am I a Plutonian person myself.
But this quindecile always gets me to act in a Scorpionic way EVERY DANG TIME. lol So what I'm really trying to decipher here is weather or not the quindecile alone could be responsible for an all-consuming, obsessive attraction. Of course, it depends on the planets involved as well, weather they are "attraction" planets or rulers of significant houses. But I would love others' thoughts on how they experience it, what it really FEELS like.
Do you experience it as a primal, deep, "crazy in love", Plutonian aspect?
Does it feel like a major aspect but on crack? Lol IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted November 24, 2014 05:03 AM
My experience with the quindecile is a little survey with it and natal charts and it seems the description fits: the quindecile in a natal chart is that area of the person's psyche where he is most driven, compulsive/obsessed, passionate about, in a word: Plutonian. It's a bit similar to Vesta symbolism. Vesta and Pluto.Rulership matters too, as usually. What are your experiences and how would you describe those aspects? ------------------
I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy
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posted November 24, 2014 05:11 AM
I'm wondering how Pluto quindeciles would feel in synastry.------------------
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LeeLoo2014
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posted November 24, 2014 05:17 AM
Well, I have one  His Sun, my Pluto...and he already has it in his natal.------------------
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I'm so cappy
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posted November 24, 2014 05:18 AM
Oh Try to describe it then.------------------
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LeeLoo2014
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posted November 24, 2014 05:45 AM
I have no idea who's more obsessed...yet
Pluto rules his mind, and with Sun qundecile Pluto, he should be very Plut9nian and very obsessive. Pluto also rules his Moon so...wow! Pluto is also in the 1st house.What do you think? I'm not very objective on this one. For me, Pluto rules MC, and it is connected to my ASC, with Pluto in the 8th - it should be connected to a desire for power and getting at the bottom of things.
But I'm unclear about this whole combo, I need some insight 
EDIT: what is interesting however is that the quindecile is part of a quindecile Yod.
My Venus our Pluto - 30 deg and the Suns in opposition constitutes the axis.
So my Venus quindecile his Sun, his Sun my Pluto, and my Sun on release.
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Selene
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posted November 24, 2014 05:45 AM
I have Moon quindecile Moon with someone. His Moon receives no major aspects of my planets, but you can't exactly say that he's emotionally uninvolved. Emotions are present very much so. I think that this quindecile contributes to that - it also resembles the Moon-Pluto conjunction on our composite IC. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne
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posted November 24, 2014 06:09 AM
Ohhhh, quindecile. I must be something of an expert now.  VENUS quindecile MARS
EROS quindecile EROS
LUST quindecile LUST and plenty of others in composites, too. But those are topping my quindecile list at the moment. You can imagine why! IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted November 24, 2014 07:53 AM
Composite quindeciles should be interesting...
In my composite, I have a quindecile Yod.The apex is Eros in Aries 5th.
The semisextile is Moon/Vesta...so Eros quindecile Moon, Eros quindecile Vesta. The release is Valentine opp Eros. What is interesting is that the Davison chart has a Moon/Vesta quindecile, with Moon the chart ruler. ------------------ I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted November 24, 2014 02:10 PM
in the natal synastry we have: (sans asteroids, or just the big ones)
his DESC quindecile my Jupiter 0°34
his DESC quindecile my Ceres 1°00
his ASC quindecile my Pluto 1°33
his Saturn quindecily my Jupiter 0°29
his NN quindecile my Moon 0°43
his NN quindecile my Juno 0°35
his Sun quindecile my SN 1°47 his Uranus quindecile my DESC 1°17
his Uranus quindecile my SN 1°45
his Neptune quindecile my DESC 1°38 his Pluto quindecily my IC 1°17 quindecile Yods
------------------- his NN quindecile my Moon and Juno
his SN conjunct my Moon/Juno 0°40 my DESC quindecile his Uranus and Neptune
my ASC conjunct his Uranus/Neptune 0°06
presently we have
his pMoon quindecile my pUranus 0°03
his pVenus quindecile my pVertex 0°46
his pJupiter quindecily m pAvx 0°56
his pJupiter quindecile my pMercury 0°27
his pJuno quindecile my pMars 0°42 his pMoon quindecile my nUranus 1°00
his pSun quindecile my nSaturn 0°35
his pURanus quindecile my n SN 0°12
his pJuno quindecile my nVenus 1°27 his nMoon quindecile my pSaturn 0°07
his nSun quindcile my pDESC 0°47
his nVenus quindecile my pDESC 0°14
his nMC quindecile my pSaturn 0°48
his nMars quindecile my pVenus 0°04
his nJupiter quindecile my PJupiter 0°40 progressed quindecile Yods:
------------------------------- my pDESC quindecile his nSun and nVenus
= my pASC conjunct his nSun/Venus 0°16
Now where it gets REALLY interesting.
For New Years eve
his nSun/Venus 11°26 Capricorn
my n Moon/Mars 11°08 Capricorn
my p ASC 11°16 Capricorn his n Arthuer 11°41 Capricorn
my n Guinevere 10°17 Capricorn his nCasanova 11°27 Capricorn
my nAdelaide 10°27 Capricorn
Tr Sun 10°01 Capricorn
Tr Pluto 13°09 Capricorn
(as of now Tr Pluto is actually as 11 Capricorn)=. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted November 24, 2014 02:11 PM
quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Composite quindeciles should be interesting...
In my composite, I have a quindecile Yod.The apex is Eros in Aries 5th.
The semisextile is Moon/Vesta...so Eros quindecile Moon, Eros quindecile Vesta. The release is Valentine opp Eros. What is interesting is that the Davison chart has a Moon/Vesta quindecile, with Moon the chart ruler.
sounds just heavenly! Romantic, erotic, soulful and dedicated IP: Logged |
YellowGerbera
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posted November 24, 2014 02:25 PM
Is there an easy way to see this aspect on astro.com?
I don't trust my manual accuracy.. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted November 24, 2014 02:27 PM
No unfortunately not. But you can easily calculate it, it is an opposition minus or plus 15°IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy
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posted November 24, 2014 02:29 PM
I have Pluto quindecile Moira and MC in my natal chart. I'll let you know when I become lady Vader.------------------
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mir
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posted November 24, 2014 02:33 PM
I wouldn't go as far to say this Gem guy is obsessed with me but who's able to keep up with me online for years and bringing me guitar serenades while playing and singing out of their skin? Big chance there will be an actual performance in my living room one day. His Moon is EXACTLY quindecile my Sun. But I very much suspect the vedic VASYA magnetic attraction is (also) responsible for this. Where the Virgo and Cap Moons (vedic moon signs, NOT western) are magnetically attracted to the Libra-Moons (me). Why do I think this? Well, because I notice this time-after-time; cap and virgo moons running after me! Very verrry striking! There really must be something to this ancient Indian science with their 27 nakshatras. _____
Vishaka me
Dhanishta him (THE music lover!) IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted November 24, 2014 02:42 PM
Mir, he sounds quite obsessed. Nice. Moon quindecile Sun sounds fitting, too.
Well, unlike you I haven`t really observed the Vasya to be a good measurement for lasting attraction, at least not consistently (and yes I was using the Vedic Moon signs)
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YellowGerbera
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posted November 24, 2014 02:43 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
No unfortunately not. But you can easily calculate it, it is an opposition minus or plus 15°
Argh.. I hate math! >.<
Thanks Ceri! IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted November 24, 2014 03:07 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
sounds just heavenly! Romantic, erotic, soulful and dedicated
Thank you, Ceri  Mir, I suppose this means Western Libra and Aqua Moons are attracted to your Scorpio Moon? ------------------
I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... IP: Logged |
mir
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posted November 24, 2014 03:24 PM
quote:
Well, unlike you I haven`t really observed the Vasya to be a good measurement for lasting attraction, at least not consistently (and yes I was using the Vedic Moon signs)
Aahh.. and I'm at a point that I really can't deny it any longer. The VASYA component of the kuta point system.
But also the GANA component which has *always* been present in my longest & strongest relationships.
But that MIGHT be.. because I'm Vishaka (Rakshasa women only go well with Rakshaha men.. which has Always proven itself in my case , and well, according to their system they have less choice than many other women who are born in a divine (deva) or human (manushya) sign) Rakshahsa = demon IP: Logged |
ReeseC
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posted November 24, 2014 04:17 PM
So this aspect in synastry brings obsession, jealousy type feelings between two people?Just my luck. I'm in a complicated situation with a guy and we have in synastry.
nVenus quindecile nVenus DW
nEros quindecile nSN DW
nASC quindecile nDESC DW
nMC quindecile my nIC DW
His nPluto is quindecile my nVenus
His nASC quindecile my nNN
His nMoon is quindecile my nSaturn
My nMoon is quindecile his nJupiter
My nMercury quindecile his nSun
My nVertex quindecile his nASC
His nVertex id quindecile my nSN Basically a clusterf*ck.
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mir
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posted November 24, 2014 04:53 PM
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Mir, I suppose this means Western Libra and Aqua Moons are attracted to your Scorpio Moon?
Yesss! ... but they have to fall within the 1st 23/24 degrees of those signs ^^ (vedic moon sign = western moon sign minus 23'** degr) IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted November 25, 2014 03:50 AM
To be honest, there's chemistry between me and Cap and Sag Moon, but usually on a friendship level. But there's definitely some attraction in there. It's however hard to discern, because most Fire Moons and me are friends, plus there's my ASC in Cap.------------------
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Ceridwen
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posted November 25, 2014 05:34 AM
I am Rakshasa, too. And yes, I suppose I am quite picky. Not really that many options there.
Interestingly Mr Sag is Rakshasa as well (me: Dhanishta, him: Moola)
But I wasn`t actually basing my observation on him and me, but on several others, too.
Branching out from the VAsya, well, according to the matchmaking of the Moons, my parents for example should never have gotten married in the first place. Every vedic astrologer would have strongly advised against it.
They have a total score of 11 (from 36) Of course there has to be muchm ore taken into account, I am aware of that, too. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne
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posted November 25, 2014 02:56 PM
quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Composite quindeciles should be interesting...
In my composite, I have a quindecile Yod.The apex is Eros in Aries 5th.
The semisextile is Moon/Vesta...so Eros quindecile Moon, Eros quindecile Vesta. The release is Valentine opp Eros. What is interesting is that the Davison chart has a Moon/Vesta quindecile, with Moon the chart ruler.
I'm still a bit neophyte when it comes to the ol' Finger o' God. How do you feel about them, Lee? I know they're a major point of study for you. What is the release point in a Yod? Not the base, is it? It feels as if that's the point generating the energy that splits among the fork. But I could be mistaken. IP: Logged |
YellowGerbera
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posted November 25, 2014 02:58 PM
Okay so I finally got the list!
This is new to me so I don't know how this aspect makes me feel or what this aspect does to me and/or him...His - Mine:
IC qd Dsc (1 deg)
Sun qd NN (this is wide @ 4 deg though)
Pluto qd NN (exact)
Saturn qd Dsc (2 deg)
Mercury qd NN (3 deg - is this too wide?)
Neptune qd Dsc (1 deg)
MC qd Asc (1 deg) Mine - His:
Dsc qd Neptune (1 deg)
Saturn qd Chiron (exact) Sorry for no particular order..haha
Looks like I'm trapped in his spider web.. lol As for composite (I added some asteroids): cMC qd cMercur/cVenus
cMars qd cKarma; his Destinn
cNN qd his IC & Saturn
cMoon qd cKarma, cJuno, cAsc
cVx qd cUranus
cDsc qd cAlma; his Sun; my Union
cPluto qd cPallas; his BML; my BML & NN (this seems intense!)
cAsc qd my Mars & Venus; his NN
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