posted November 23, 2014 12:01 PM            

But is it ALL that bad? Is there any bright side to this aspect? Some sort of purpose that can allow for growth? I have it with my SO, and we are extremely close. We are very emotional with each other, freely share our feelings... we have never felt emotionally distant. That's why I'm so intrigued by how this aspect can really play out beyond the stereotypical 'emotional constipation' issue. I'm trying to envision how it will play out for us, but we don't seem to fit the standard Moon-Saturn 'mould', so to speak.

I'm very interested in hearing personal stories about how this aspect played out in synastry. I'm not afraid of Saturn or of this aspect, I'm simply curious to see if anyone has experienced something positive or at least something challenging that is conducive for growth vs. the typical 'doom and gloom' prediction.

Thanks!

posted November 23, 2014 07:29 PM            

Eh, I do believe that everything has a good side to it. My personal experience with this is that, while the negatives are pretty heart-wrenching, for the Moon at least, it is something that allows for a lot of spiritual growth. Illusions are purified and stripped away with this aspect, so it can be quite good for a long-term, take-them-for-what-they-are relationship. A lot of frustration comes out of it though, and the bond needs to be really strong for the relationship to survive.

posted November 23, 2014 10:48 PM            

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Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:
I have it with my SO, and we are extremely close. We are very emotional with each other, freely share our feelings... we have never felt emotionally distant.

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I had this with my Beloved, and it was as you said; very open emotionally...Indeed, naked. The deepest, closest, most intimate bond I've experienced, and I think these Saturn aspects (in part) reflect the "unbreakable" nature of it. In our case, it was positive. I think it also speaks of emotional growth and maturity. Trust. As solid as it gets. I guess the kind of bond that would be required to put up with the sh*t load of crap that a squ. might suggest. The kind of bond that is instead reinforced, rather than broken down by the challenges that a squ. might suggest.

His Saturn squares his own Moon, and mine, since they are in tight opposition. My Saturn is sxt. my Moon and trn. his Moon and AC by 2 degrees. Saturn rules my 7th and 8th, and his 11th. Mine falls in his 8th, and squ. his own 8th house ruler (Venus). We both have Saturn-Venus too (he has the trn., I have the opp.).

I have a Moon-Saturn with another significant soul connection (an Aries), and that too was emotionally open (which was also a big deal). I've known him all my life. There are aspects of him that remind me of my Beloved, only this guy was a Father figure/mentor. His Saturn is sxt my Moon, conj. my Mars, and opp. my Sun.

I think the squ. does represent the lasting connection despite separation/obstacles (along with age difference), in our case; both of these connections are/were of a nature where we were in and out of each others' lives, but the love and bond were/are still strong...The kind of bond where you know that love is always there (and will always be there), and whenever you see/speak to each other, you just pick right back up where you left off. This is likely a mixture of Saturn and Uranus influences, though.

In both cases, the separation involves physical distance and separate (though parallel, and at times, intersecting) life paths. My Beloved transitioned years ago suddenly (Saturn/8th synastry, and composite Uranus/Chiron/BML in 12th; only one person in my life knows about this one) as we were reconnecting. I haven't seen Aries in about 10 years, but we do go back and forth on Facebook. I have been thinking lately of visiting him. Hopefully he doesn't die right before that happens.*sarcasm*

In these cases, I haven't found Saturn to be as difficult or frustrating in the way some claim; cold, draining/abusive, emotionally distant, etc. With my Love, there were some insecurities we had to work through, but there was also a lot of patience, exceptional tenderness, and sensitivity/understanding involved (esp. on his part). It was a more gentle experience than a lot of the interpretations I've read, but it was emotionally heavy at times, as there was just a lot of emotional pain associated with the life path. It was deeply Loving, with intense feelings of loyalty and protection. Not at all abusive, but deeply, deeply supportive and healing.

It was similar with Aries, but that relationship was of a different nature, and it was a bit unbalanced; he had a habit of dumping his emotions on me, so I was more of a support to him in that sense. I could express my emotions, but it was still more about his emotions. Open, but unbalanced in support. So there was some frustration with Aries in that way, but no love lost. With my Beloved, it flowed both ways. It was such a deep and natural understanding with him. Very much on the spiritual/psychic level. Very supportive, and he continues to be, in spirit.

The difficulties/frustrations were more of a physical, external nature (e.g. being hospitalized and severely disabled when my Love was facing serious turmoil himself, Aries being partially paralyzed in a car accident, other stuff like family and financially related difficulties, more illnesses and injuries, geographical issues, racism, other socially related nonsense, deaths, obligations, etc). Life, basically. A status difference is also represented here.

posted November 24, 2014 05:37 PM            

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Originally posted by libran_dream:
Yes, it is.

Eh, I do believe that everything has a good side to it. My personal experience with this is that, while the negatives are pretty heart-wrenching, for the Moon at least, it is something that allows for a lot of spiritual growth. Illusions are purified and stripped away with this aspect, so it can be quite good for a long-term, take-them-for-what-they-are relationship. A lot of frustration comes out of it though, and the bond needs to be really strong for the relationship to survive.

But, it will also depend on natals, of course, and what these two represent in each individual's charts.

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I think that it speaks to how we are naturally grounded emotionally with each other - we can rely on each other so naturally, and after knowing each other for a few months, we both agreed that we can see ourselves married in the next few years and possibly starting a family. It's like everything is just clicking on its own, and it doesn't feel abnormal in the least that we both can see ourselves being married, to start. I would NEVER leave this person or leave the relationship behind if we had any kind of turmoil, no matter how large or small. I think that's kind of how Saturn is operating between us!

posted November 24, 2014 05:48 PM            

THANK YOU for sharing your story!! It is wonderful that you were open to sharing, I appreciate it. There is a kind of 'nakedness' to this aspect, where we can both be honest about our feelings without fear of judgement. Our bond is also extremely intimate and there is a feeling of fatedness which seems to go with Saturn's karmic qualities. I would be surprised if we did not have a past life together at one point. If we ever have any challenges, I think it'll bring us closer together, which is really meaningful. I have Moon-Chiron conjunct and his Moon is widely conjunct Saturn, so in a way we are not unfamiliar with Saturn's energy, respectively.

I had Saturn in the 8th with someone and it made sex and topics around sex very ... heavy. I did not enjoy that because I am an 8H Mars person and it was uncomfortable for me. Just out of curiosity, did you find a sense of anxiety, argumentativeness etc. came up between you and the other person concerning sex?

Interesting how we both have experienced barriers with these people in our lives, yet the barriers in the relationship have fostered closeness and a deep caring, like it's worth waiting for and making it past every hurdle that comes up. He lives in another country right now, I am visiting him soon and he is trying to move to America next spring. I hope all goes well with the transition, it's worrisome to think we will be apart. But even right now, we have been apart for months and yet our bond is SO strong, very ironic considering that it's my soul mate relationship. I think that's Saturn's tough love right there. That things are worth being patient for, because they mean so much more. I'm sorry that you're loved one transitioned unexpectedly /hugs/

It's nice that you haven't found the abusiveness or coldness described with this aspect on a lot of websites. Honestly I could never envision us having these problems, but it's still a little frightening to read those kind of things! It's wonderful that you've also experienced the same feeling of patience and understanding that came with emotional sharing. That's how we are with each other. We both have our own emotional insecurities yet we are so patient, loving and gentle with each other where we try to help each other get through them. We also have a feeling of 'healing' in our relationship. It's like we guide each other - which we have told each other many times.

posted November 24, 2014 05:50 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Moon/Saturn in synastry does not receive the proper description, IMO. This is a very common and good marital aspect, no matter the aspect - what you need between those is the aspect matching your natal geometries, the fact that it's a square or something else is not important.

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posted November 24, 2014 06:37 PM            

Like all saturn aspects, it feels like a safety net. In the hard aspects case, there is a clash so the Saturn will not know how to function well in reaction to the lack of compatibility. It can get ugly because the moon person will become miserable because of the distance that will just grow and grow over time, if you just fail to connect at all. Theres already a needy quality to the moon and since youre bound together, you will eventually need the saturn. And they're just never there, despite there being a feeling of being at home with them. Hurt feelings when you're together, hurt feelings and neediness away from each other. Its not even the saturns fault; two incompatible signs just have a hard time clicking. Saturns going to make you work for it anyways.

posted February 02, 2015 01:01 AM            

Yes and no. In a relationship that lasted 10 years, none of the dire descriptions of Moon square Saturn played out. The way it manifested was that the man (Saturn) was critical of certain physical habits of mine and about my body (Moon), that was it. We also had Moon trine Moon, Venus trine Venus, and Moon-Jupiter conjunct.

posted February 02, 2015 07:17 AM            

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Originally posted by VacantGazer:
I read saturn aspects are needed for longterm. I have moon square saturn with one of my best friends, we've been friends for years, and I feel we will be friends for years to come.

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I have that with my best friend, too.
my Saturn squares her Moon exact, her Saturn opposes my Moon by 5 degrees.
We have been friends for about 25 years.

Another friend of mine I have known for about 12 years I think. Funny thing is that we met on a forum online (we do not visit anymore), and it is basically an email friendship, though we met about once a year for some theatre visits.
it always surprised me, cause usually online friendships last maybe 1 - 2 years, if that long at all (there ARE exceptions of course, but they are rare).
We still email each other about 2 times a week each, and usually rather long emails, if we had printed them out from the beginning we probably would have filled more than one book by now.

In this case her Sun-Saturn-MC-conjunction falls right onto my Moon, while my Saturn conjuncts her ASC (and is close enough to her Moon, to give us a Moon-Saturn-conjunction in composite which is the focal point of the Yod to Pluto on the ASC and Neptune
- this one is interesting as our friendship deepened through sharing of spiritual experiences, and Neptune/Pluto is the "spiritual midpoint", so having Moon right on it, is certainly fitting for us.)