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lisalisa
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posted November 29, 2014 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lisalisa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi,

So i have a question about this synastry (girl no correct TOB)
The guy (red) has a taurus stellum in the 12th, with only 2 aspects to it... Other harmonious aspects to his moon but this can't be good for long term can it? Even if the guy feels more in tune with his moon than his stellium (moon square stellium natally)

What are your opinions?

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posted November 29, 2014 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well, they actually both have stelliums that fall under the same ruler, so it's not completely awful. and their moons are in two of the most compatible signs; it's hard to match an aqua moon and sag is a very good placement for the female partner. the venus/pluto connections are obviously very good, but could shift into larger orbs since you don't know the tob. venus/pluto is very hard to ignore so it'd probably get somewhere just based on that alone.

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posted November 29, 2014 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lisalisa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by starmoon:
well, they actually both have stelliums that fall under the same ruler, so it's not completely awful. and their moons are in two of the most compatible signs; it's hard to match an aqua moon and sag is a very good placement for the female partner. the venus/pluto connections are obviously very good, but could shift into larger orbs since you don't know the tob. venus/pluto is very hard to ignore so it'd probably get somewhere just based on that alone.

Still untouched his sun? No positive aspecting his mars/venus?
Is this a couple that could get married to eachother?

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posted November 29, 2014 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see this work.
I looked at their progressions and they've some pretty strong ones going on right now and same for the future.
Also, both their progressed Sun/Moon cycles match up in a 4th harmonic in about 2 years. Might be marriage time.
But both their progressed Moons are currently in a 4th harmonic to their natal Suns also. So, if it's already started between them wouldn't surprise me.

Here another lack-of stellium aspect example, which worked and started under strong progressions;
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/000444-10.html

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posted November 29, 2014 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lisalisa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mir:
I see this work.
I looked at their progressions and they've some pretty strong ones going on right now and same for the future.
Also, both their progressed Sun/Moon cycles match up in a 4th harmonic in about 2 years. Might be marriage time.
But both their progressed Moons are currently in a 4th harmonic to their natal Suns also. So, if it's already started between them wouldn't surprise me.

Here another lack-of stellium aspect example, which worked and started under strong progressions;
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/000444-10.html



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posted November 29, 2014 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very funny.
What I said about the progressed Sun/Moon cycle of girl 1 & him, goes also up for girl 2 & him. Look at the amazing synchronicity; girl 1 has yet 26 deg to go to reach the FIRST QUARTER peak. Girl 2 has also exactly 26 deg to go to reach the LAST QUARTER peak. Which means that both will reach in about 2 years the 4th harmonic cycle, at the same time as the guy who will then have a progressed NEW MOON.

And this ofcourse also means that both girls right now have their progressed Moons in a 4th harmonic aspect to their natal Suns, just as the guy has. So, the potential for all to start something is definitely there.

But..

Looking at their progressed Venus aspects, girl 1 definitely wins from girl 2.

The only longterm aspects coming up for girl 2 with guy are a Venus/Mars square and a Sun/Venus square at about the same time. Those are usually clearly "separating-in-the-flesh" aspects.

The current strong attraction between girl 2 and guy might not only have all to do with the progressed 4th harmonic cycle but ALSO with his progressed Venus exactly conjunct her natal Moon (appl. by some minutes). But that will pass sooner than later.

I would set my bet for 90 % on girl 1 & guy.


Please let me know if it turns out differently. Would like to know..

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posted November 29, 2014 05:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lisalisa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mir:
Very funny.
What I said about the progressed Sun/Moon cycle of girl 1 & him, goes also up for girl 2 & him. Look at the amazing synchronicity; girl 1 has yet 26 deg to go to reach the FIRST QUARTER peak. Girl 2 has also exactly 26 deg to go to reach the LAST QUARTER peak. Which means that both will reach in about 2 years the 4th harmonic cycle, at the same time as the guy who will then have a progressed NEW MOON.

And this ofcourse also means that both girls right now have their progressed Moons in a 4th harmonic aspect to their natal Suns, just as the guy has. So, the potential for all to start something is definitely there.

But..

Looking at their progressed Venus aspects, girl 1 definitely wins from girl 2.

The only longterm aspects coming up for girl 2 with guy are a Venus/Mars square and a Sun/Venus square at about the same time. Those are usually clearly "separating-in-the-flesh" aspects.

The current strong attraction between girl 2 and guy might not only have all to do with the progressed 4th harmonic cycle but ALSO with his progressed Venus exactly conjunct her natal Moon (appl. by some minutes). But that will pass sooner than later.

I would set my bet for 90 % on girl 1 & guy.


Please let me know if it turns out differently. Would like to know..


When will be best time for girl 2 + guy? And is there something girl 2 can do to have more chances?

"Seperating in the flesh" girl 2 is overseas while girl 1 lives in the city of the guy

And can you look at the synastries too which will have better chance?

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posted November 30, 2014 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The synastry would be interesting only if there's an eqality of strong progressed aspects in both charts. But here's it's too Obvious that girl 1 has the 'upper hand'. In fact, that girl 2 lives overseas only confirms the upcoming double square as external circumstances which keeps them from coming closer.

In about a decade there will be some strong binding progressions between girl 2 & guy, followed by some others. But looking at girl 1 & guy, the strong progressions never stop either. So, if I were girl 2, I wouldn't set my mind on this guy.

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posted November 30, 2014 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lisalisa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 30, 2014 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess that's about the only time I've seen a near-exact VENUS/PLUTO be the only thing holding a natal synastry together.

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posted December 02, 2014 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lisa yes, I definitely see some potential with the last guy here.

Currently your progressed Venus is exactly opposite his natal Mars (some minutes separating but it's a verrrrry slow separation because of your retro Venus).
Also his progressed Venus is exactly opposite YOUR natal Mars (few minutes applying).

Interesting ^.

There's clearly some striking attraction, not?

On it's way to make a nice trine by 3 deg;
Your progressed Mars to his natal Venus.

(^ since pMars is pretty slow a benefit for yearss)

His progressed Sun trine your natal Venus will follow also.

Not bad I say.


Although we don't know his TOB the progressed Sun/Moon cycles match up also. And the more he's born BACK-TO midnight that day the more they do. But even if not, approx they line up, so not a bad choice I would say.

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posted December 02, 2014 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lisalisa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mir:
Lisa yes, I definitely see some potential with the last guy here.

Currently your progressed Venus is exactly opposite his natal Mars (some minutes separating but it's a verrrrry slow separation because of your retro Venus).
Also his progressed Venus is exactly opposite YOUR natal Mars (few minutes applying).

Interesting ^.

There's clearly some striking attraction, not?

On it's way to make a nice trine by 3 deg;
Your progressed Mars to his natal Venus.

(^ since pMars is pretty slow a benefit for yearss)

His progressed Sun trine your natal Venus will follow also.

Not bad I say.


Although we don't know his TOB the progressed Sun/Moon cycles match up also. And the more he's born BACK-TO midnight that day the more they do. But even if not, approx they line up, so not a bad choice I would say.


Mir, about the first chart, girl 1 + guy had a relationship for 1+ year and he told it was an "unhealthy" relationship, girl 2 + guy dated for some time but because girl 2 lives overseas they didn't see eachother often and they broke up eventhough they were never officially together... Has girl 1 still same chances to get back together with guy? The guy 'cheated' on girl 1 with girl 2 with flirting... Ok very complex story, i just would like to know if girl 2 is making an mistake by forgetting about this guy..

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posted December 03, 2014 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, well, the story reminds me of a ‘friend’ of mine that I liked a lot (romantically also yes) but nothing truly got off the ground between us. The guy in question still thinks about me every day while he’s in a relationship for 2 years with this girl now. He, in fact, was/is saying the same as your guy; unhealthy, not exactly happy etc. But, what do I buy for it? The progressions between him & her were exactly what you would expect to see at the start of a new relationship; Venus/Venus trine – Sun/Venus trine – another Sun/Venus trine. One exact currently and one still dancing to its peak for another 1,5 year. So, as we see, when the progressed signs are there, it doesn’t always mean a truly happy relationship. And let’s be honest; does it exist? A truly happy one? The grass is always greener on the other side.

But what do/did the guy & me have? A Sun/Venus square for yearssss (because of his retro Venus) and a Venus/Mars square will follow, same story as girl 2 & him for the next decade. Circumstances keep us apart. Well, that’s a pity but I’m NOT going to set my mind on him (thank god for the progressed knowlegde I have now) and wait for some (actual/literal) signs of progress between us. My take is this; there *IS* (clearly!) progress or there isn’t. Despite any square or whatever. I’m not going to set my mind on something that MIGHT become progress one day. It’s a complete waste of time and life is too short for that. The heavenly progressions, in fact, only confirm this all. There’s enough research done by Westran to take the progressed synastry pretty seriously. The squares have, in 8/9 out of 10 cases, a separating effect. I see it in my own research, I see it in my own life… convinced enough to talk about it. No, girl 2 is not making any mistake unless clear signs of actual progress are unfolding itself RIGHT NOW. Any doubt is enough to set it off mind. It would be pretty much of a miracle if it’s going to work between them for the next decade, that's what I can say.

Ow and yes, me and this guy have exactly progressed “opposite” moon phases, for life. But unfortunately.. the Sun/Venus and Venus/Mars square don’t seem to allow it, as expected.

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posted December 03, 2014 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lisalisa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mir! Thank you for this insight....
Do you see if girl 2 is doing good by focussing on guy 2 (last synastry i posted) can you see for coming years it will be something? We are starting to fall for eachother, only know him 1 week! And its VERY intense

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