posted December 01, 2014 10:00 AM            

First of all, you have to know what you are dealing with with Neptune. Neptune is as beautiful as the most delicious poetry and music that melts your soul. Neptune can take you into the spheres. However, Neptune can make you think that the frog is the prince. When you wake up, you may have lost all you have, including your dignity and even your life. If you have not lost your life, you may be wishing for death. Hang in there with me. We are going to learn how you can avoid this mess, if you listen. However, you probably won’t. Don’t say I didn’t tell you.

When there is a fire, they tell you to stop, drop and roll. I am doing the same thing, so lets start. That which Neptune touches, it will fog. If is touches your emotions, it will fog those. This would be Neptune/Moon. If it touches your ego, it will fog that. This would be Neptune/Sun. If it touches your love nature, it will fog that. This would be Neptune/Venus. Let’s make this practical and apply it to synastry.

If you think you have met the man of your dreams, hurry to the charts. If his Neptune opposes your Venus, hang onto your hat and trust me. You don’t see him as he is. One day you will. When that day comes, the scales will come off your eyes.Then, you will be in a state of shock, as if you sustained a car accident. You will be numb. You will feel duped, used and stupid. Everyone gets one free ride on the Neptune mobile. Make it count and don’t do it again. Everyone is a Neptune virgin once.

Let’s dissect what happened. Neptune shrouds what it touches in an ethereal beauty. If you feel that your beloved is as beautiful as an original Picasso, you know that Neptune has bitten you. However, when Neptune’s fog lifts, you will return to your right mind. Then, you will see things as they are. At that point, you will have developed a profound respect for Neptune. He doesn’t play around when it comes to beauty, even if it is just a dream. Neptune rules dreams, too.

Lets see other ways in which Neptune can play out in synastry. His Neptune may touch your Moon. You may doubt what you feel. His Neptune may touch your Sun. You may doubt your own thoughts. Your self confidence may take a nose dive. However, Neptune takes you to the heavens up before it lets you fall. If his Neptune touches your Sun, initially you will feel big and bad and full of confidence. If his Neptune touches your Moon, initially you will feel a warm glow to your emotions. However, you will, most likely,take the inevitable fall, so be prepared. If his Neptune conjuncts your ASC. You cannot see him for who he is, in general. Know that you can’t trust yourself. Ask others. It is good to do this, on a regular basis, when there is a strong Neptune in synastry.

No man is an island and this applies more so when one cannot see beyond the ethereal fog which is Neptune’s stock in trade.

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posted December 01, 2014 03:44 PM            

I always wondered though whether it is the planet or neptune person who is deceived. Or both?

posted December 01, 2014 04:29 PM            

I don't think Saturn does much to alleviate Neptune. As a Pisces heavy person with Saturn conjunctions (from Pisces), I can still be very naive. It's very hard to ground Neptunian energy -- it is the realm of logical mist, explaining why Mercury is in it's fall there.

Everything adds up but when you stop keeping tabs on things, you will start to doubt yourself. The best you can do is stay on top of what you know, and inquire about what you do not. Or keep a Gemini/Virgo close by

posted December 01, 2014 04:50 PM            

My Sun conjunct his Neptune/Asc exact. My Neptune conjunct his Neptune/Asc.

My Neptune - 28.6 Libra
His Neptune - 0.3 Sco
My Sun - 1.37 Sco
His Asc - 1.37 Sco

Many layers here don't you think? Often, we muddle along in a state of mutual ambivalence. Well, who doesn't? Neptune is also spiritual and mystical. Or the fog may be a perpetual one .

posted December 01, 2014 06:46 PM            

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Originally posted by ueharaa:
As usual a great article that explains how neptune works.

I always wondered though whether it is the planet or neptune person who is deceived. Or both?

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Thank you, U!

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posted December 01, 2014 06:46 PM            

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Originally posted by Iced8Ace:
This article made me laugh - in a good way. I like how you gathered the information.

I don't think Saturn does much to alleviate Neptune. As a Pisces heavy person with Saturn conjunctions (from Pisces), I can still be very naive. It's very hard to ground Neptunian energy -- it is the realm of logical mist, explaining why Mercury is in it's fall there.

Everything adds up but when you stop keeping tabs on things, you will start to doubt yourself. The best you can do is stay on top of what you know, and inquire about what you do not. Or keep a Gemini/Virgo close by

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Thank you, Iced!

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posted December 01, 2014 06:47 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
The idea that Neptune is a 100% malefic planet is a Neptunian illusion too, one of its tricks

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I don't think it is malefic. I have it trine the Sun and Mercury and it makes for creativity.

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posted December 02, 2014 11:15 AM            

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Originally posted by Astro keen:
In our case, we probably delude each other. But other aspects might buffer the respective let downs.

My Sun conjunct his Neptune/Asc exact. My Neptune conjunct his Neptune/Asc.

My Neptune - 28.6 Libra
His Neptune - 0.3 Sco
My Sun - 1.37 Sco
His Asc - 1.37 Sco

Many layers here don't you think? Often, we muddle along in a state of mutual ambivalence. Well, who doesn't? Neptune is also spiritual and mystical. Or the fog may be a perpetual one .

@ Pretty Theft

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Very good points, AK!

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posted December 02, 2014 01:19 PM            

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Originally posted by alyssa27:
i have venus-neptune opposition,moon-neptune square and a mars-neptune trine..this means that i will be fooled from everyone of my generation?..i don't wanna believe that..i have to accept that i will be deceived from all of my friends?..i don't think neptune is that bad

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It's bad if you don't consider its dangers, that's all. You have to keep your head on straight. It's the refusal to believe that makes it act as a malific so much of the time.

posted December 02, 2014 02:10 PM            

Technically, you'd consider the American toad (which does actually have tiny micro-teeth) a more dangerous threat -- but only when they're threatened. It's their skin which releases a bit of toxin known as bufotenin. It can really do a number on animals, but for humans, it's been considered something of a psychedelic. (Surely, you've heard the tales; crazy country kids licking the backs of toads for a -- dare we say it -- wild ride?)

Perhaps that's the better definition of NEPTUNE's allure and illusion. It's a psychedelic trip, the likes of which we're not sure when will end. Granted, we're not all 'licking toads' -- we're 'kissing frogs' -- but the metaphor remains the same. Befuddled and bewildered, confused and bemused.

posted December 02, 2014 05:38 PM            

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Originally posted by bansheequeen:
Is there always a crash from neptune? Is it possible neptune can endlessly sustain the illusion?

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The trines may do it!

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posted December 02, 2014 06:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
The trines may do it!

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posted December 02, 2014 06:43 PM            

My neptune trines his sun
His neptune conjucted my uranus.

posted December 02, 2014 07:48 PM            

However. He also has a natal Venus/Mars conjunction square Neptune, which means he is more or less dealing with this signature all his life, and obviously I have, too, with my moon/Neptune signature. I've also been experiencing Neptune mucking up my first house. My very identity is nebulous! Thankfully it's moving onto my 2nd house soon enough.

posted December 03, 2014 03:34 AM            

I am the capricorn neptune and he is libra sun It's almost completely exact 0 degrees apart.

We also have my libra mercury square his capricorn neptune, I think 2 degrees.

Does this mean that it's his ego that is affected, and that I am the one that creates the fog between us?
Sometimes I can actually feel some fog between us, but it doesnt last long... in my book he is seriously a prince on the white horse, and no matter what people woul say this is how I feel. We have gone through much together (my brother died last year) and he was there for me (he still is), and I am very thankful for that. He is really sweet and supportive, so what more could I ask for. He doesnt have to be perfect.

We also have his libra sun square my cap saturn at 2 degrees, and his libra venus square my cap saturn at 5 degrees. Maybe this is the reason why?

But I do agree that I sometimes get all delussional and need a good advice from a friend, and they always talk me down again, though I can sometimes hardly believe it.

posted December 03, 2014 09:33 AM            

or could it be that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, until the eye's definition of beauty becomes more refined with experience..

or switch it up. Could Neptune feel like deception when we get more than we bargained for? Take the example of the mystic and the cleric. A mystic can look like anyone, even a cleric or scholar/priest. However, when seeking truth and answers, one might be disturbed to hear the soft suggestion of a mystic when he was looking for the clear guidelines of a cleric. Does Neptune reveal the limitation of our expectations?

Are we presented with an illusion, or are our personal attachments brought to the forefront?

posted December 03, 2014 09:48 AM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Incidentally, since you're going with the frog metaphor, Ami, I thought you might want to know that it's pretty unlikely anyone would sustain an injury from a 'frog bite'. They're toothless, (well, by human standards) and use their snare of a tongue to catch their food.

Technically, you'd consider the American toad (which does actually have tiny micro-teeth) a more dangerous threat -- but only when they're threatened. It's their skin which releases a bit of toxin known as bufotenin. It can really do a number on animals, but for humans, it's been considered something of a psychedelic. (Surely, you've heard the tales; crazy country kids licking the backs of toads for a -- dare we say it -- wild ride?)

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posted December 03, 2014 04:04 PM            

Yeahhhhhhhh