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Topic: Black Moon Lilith in Synastry
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Astro keen Knowflake Posts: 4698 From: UK Registered: Nov 2012
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posted June 02, 2013 06:27 AM
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anno_lucis Knowflake Posts: 994 From: the atman Registered: Mar 2012
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posted June 02, 2013 09:38 AM
spooky bump. i was just reading this and a few others last night...his bml conjuncts my moon by 2 degrees, applying. conj my psyche. his osc lilith is on the other side of my sun by 1 degree, so they are like hugging either side of my sun/moon :/ my venus square his mars, his venus conj my uranus/asteroid lilith, trining my venus and i have a natal bml/venus conj and a libra rising soooo... *cackles* he also has asteroid lilith conj his sun in scorpio. his kaali/psyche conj in aquarius is hitting up my draco sun/mooooon by 2 degs. my friend openly introduced him to me as the 'male version' of me, i dunno who was more spooked out, me or him  IP: Logged |
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posted June 04, 2013 11:29 PM
I have a dw in synastry.My lilith square his pluto His lilith sextile my pluto IP: Logged |
eyes_like_pisces Knowflake Posts: 393 From: mpls, mn, usa Registered: Feb 2013
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posted June 09, 2013 09:33 PM
Nice to finally read how lilith can be interpreted in some positive ways. Something strange I noticed in my synastry chart today. We both have moon square Lilith natally. And moon opposite moon in synastry, meaning lilith opp. Lilith. creating a grand cross (right?). - no idea what to think of it though. IP: Logged |
anno_lucis Knowflake Posts: 994 From: the atman Registered: Mar 2012
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posted October 31, 2013 03:53 PM
quote: Originally posted by anno_lucis: spooky bump. i was just reading this and a few others last night...his bml conjuncts my moon by 2 degrees, applying. conj my psyche. his osc lilith is on the other side of my sun by 1 degree, so they are like hugging either side of my sun/moon :/ my venus square his mars, his venus conj my uranus/asteroid lilith, trining my venus and i have a natal bml/venus conj and a libra rising soooo... *cackles* he also has asteroid lilith conj his sun in scorpio. his kaali/psyche conj in aquarius is hitting up my draco sun/mooooon by 2 degs. my friend openly introduced him to me as the 'male version' of me, i dunno who was more spooked out, me or him 
yea so, 5 months later, we are still scaring the s*** out of each other..it's an nth degree stake outthank god taurus desposits all of my aries placements, cos i have endless patience, i just hate waiting... IP: Logged |
lisalisa Knowflake Posts: 1291 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted November 01, 2013 04:39 PM
My lilith opposes his neptune, what does it mean?IP: Logged |
lisalisa Knowflake Posts: 1291 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted February 03, 2014 05:03 AM
Does someone knows what this aspect would emplyMy mean BML opposes his neptune My mean BML conjunct true lilith, moon and chiron in the 8th house natally His taurus stellium (mars, sun, mercury, venus and chiron) trines his neptune natally IP: Logged |
lisalisa Knowflake Posts: 1291 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted February 04, 2014 04:20 PM
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geminigal2805 Knowflake Posts: 1436 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted February 08, 2014 11:22 PM
My osc lilith sits exactly on my guys asc. N his lilth opposes my Sun exact. Will u guys interpret oscillating lilith on asc pls?IP: Logged |
eyes_like_pisces Knowflake Posts: 393 From: mpls, mn, usa Registered: Feb 2013
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posted February 11, 2014 01:39 AM
quote: Originally posted by ail221: Sure its arguable to say it is a hypothetical point so where is it's validity, but the same can be said about the myths surrounding the use of asteroids and interpretation of them. I think the reason their are so many lilith points is because she can't be defined to one point just like the phases of the moon she had many.In some regards main stream society has pretty much ignored "Lilith's" existence and if she is mentioned it's usually painted as the female first vampire, the baby killer, the uncontrollable first wife of adam, the maleficent(every single wicked queen in a fairy tale) etc. One of the reasons certain asteroids seem to end up connected with certain liliths is because they each represent different things connected to her. The asteroid lilith seems to represents the more rational feminist, gender equalizer which is why the Asteroid lilith appears more consistent with the asteroid Karma, pallas, NN and the vertex. So far BML has been is more constant with Eros because she personifies every aspect of "Lilith" the good, the bad, the succubus, the magical, the seeker of truth, the dark divine feminine and the magnetic. The mean aspect of BML goes beyond it's calculation because it attempting to encompass every side of Lilith just define her to one point. BML and True lilith yield similar synastry results but there are differences: BML is more consistent with destiny points, marriage,love asteroids specifically Juno, Eros, Psyche, Mercury, Union and NN. One of the many reasons I theorize there is a importance of BML in Tropical/Draconic synastry and composite; even in draconic synastry and composite Eros, Psyche and Union remain in connection . On another Note I suspect the Asteroid Lilith might be more consistent in helio-centric charts. True Lilith: Is consistent with Eros, Karma and Valentine.
Ail221, this makes me feel so much better! Ive been inquiring about Lilith(s) synastry for so long! My BML conjunct his mean lilith my mercury conjunct his osc. Lilith his BML conjunct my SN and my osc. Lilith conjunct his venus IP: Logged |
eyes_like_pisces Knowflake Posts: 393 From: mpls, mn, usa Registered: Feb 2013
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posted February 11, 2014 01:44 AM
I would guess that lilith-asc would make him view you as very magnetic, powerful, and attractive.Not sure about lilith oppose neptune but sounds very intriguing. IP: Logged |
tgem Moderator Posts: 4730 From: Registered: Jan 2013
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posted March 30, 2014 01:47 PM
Has anyone covered BML in the composte? How would composite BML conjunct MC play out?IP: Logged |
plutonian105 Knowflake Posts: 45 From: CA Registered: Nov 2014
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posted December 02, 2014 11:39 AM
What can you make of lilith trine true node? how would that play out? IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 65681 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 02, 2014 11:59 PM
Moving to Interpersonal Astrology.IP: Logged |
Orange Knowflake Posts: 4620 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted December 03, 2014 09:03 AM
quote: Originally posted by ail221: After using tropical synastry with the 15 couples and the added True Osc lilith h13 and the Asteroid Lilith 1181:Asteroid Lilith aspects from greatest to least with orb values of 4 at most: 1)Karma: 8/15 2)Cupido, vertex, North Node, and Pallas : 7/15 3)Mars, Neptune,Psyche, and Valentine: 6/15 4)Eros, Venus, Mercury,Saturn, Pluto, Union, Amor, Lust, and Vesta: 5/15 5)Juno, MC, ASC,Chiron,and BML: 4/15 The Sun aspects to Asteroid lilith were only 3 of 15 couples The Moon aspects were only 1 of 15 couples. True Osc Lilith aspects from greatest to least were: 1) Eros : 9 of the 15 couples 2)Karma and Valentine were both :8 of the 15 couples 3) Moon, Saturn, Psyche, Amor, and North Node. : 6 of the 15 couples 4)Mercury, Pallas, Lust, Cupido, and Chiron. 5 of the 15 couples 5) Sun, Venus, Juno, Neptune, and ASC. 4 of the 15 couples. 6) Mars,Pluto, Vesta and Bml. 3 of the 15 couples. 7) Union and MC with the least 2 of the 15 couples.
This is just an awesome research. Thanks for doing this IP: Logged |
Orange Knowflake Posts: 4620 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted December 03, 2014 09:04 AM
quote: Originally posted by ail221: Aspect Themes that stand out the most: BML-Eros:6/15 BML-Psyche:5/15 BML-Karma:5/15 BML-Pallas:5/15 BML-Neptune:4/15
Another valuable research. Awesome!
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Pretty Theft Knowflake Posts: 136 From: Chicago Registered: Nov 2014
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posted December 05, 2014 10:55 PM
My BML is in an exact conjunction with his natal Mars/Venus conjunction (also exact). This takes place at 0 degrees Aries! I am definitely very drawn to him. I don't know who "feels" it more though. IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto Knowflake Posts: 2557 From: intimate sky dot net Registered: Mar 2014
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posted June 02, 2016 01:57 PM
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yungang_grotto Knowflake Posts: 2557 From: intimate sky dot net Registered: Mar 2014
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posted June 02, 2016 02:21 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Well, call me boring, but I am only using the True Black Moon (h13), as I am also use the True Node instead of the mean one. However I see that the mean Black Moon often gives interesting results as well. But I just can`t bring myself to use it really extensely, as I donīt know how to reason and justify to myself, why I would use an averaged position, instead of the true one?I donīt use the Waldemath Moon, as I am not using any hypothetical objects. The Black Moon, even though it s listed under hypothetical objects, is not hypothetical at all but simply a calculated point like the nodal axis. In fact interestingly it also bases its calculation on Sun, Earth, Moon, just like the nodal axis does (different calculation though), and in this instance it also contains the same symbols as the nodal chart / Draconic chart does. The calculations are different, but they are all based on the interplay of Sun, Earth, Moon, and this is a source of endless fascination to me. For interpretations though, I always feel like the True Black Moon is a bit like a combined Moon-Pluto-symbolism (the dark/uncivilised side of the moon). Asteroid Lilith might have a bit of a different interpretation, as as an asteroid it does not reflect any interplay between Sun, Earth and Moon like the Black Moon does.
I have felt the same way about the True Black Moon. Seems to me like the true one. So I apply interpretations of Mean Lilith to the True Lilith... And yet I see BML operating in notable ways sometimes and interestingly we have a double whammy between my True and his Mean Lilith and vice versa. (His Mean Lilith trine my True Lilith 0'02'... my Mean Lilith trine his True Lilith 2'42... you can't make this stuff up! I think it's interesting anyway ) My True Lilith opposes my Mars and his Moon. His True Lilith is conjunct his name asteroid and Pallas and has made aspects to the Suns of every girlfriend he has had our woman he's been interested in that I know the birth data of (all around 20-25 degrees of various signs...)
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 26210 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 02, 2016 02:28 PM
Actually I have come to understand by now that the true MOon is not really true, and instead the natural Lilith is the one truest, and yet I find myself using mean BML almost exclusively nowadays.  Yes, I am inconsistent. IP: Logged |
angel4845 Knowflake Posts: 2591 From: USA Registered: Oct 2014
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posted June 02, 2016 04:32 PM
Mean Lilith from the drop down menu has manifested for me especially in my current relationship now. BUT it's hard to tell because my asteroid Lilith is also aspecting her and his Saturn and Uranus and I find this stressful myself as I do have prominent asteroid Lilith 1181 in my chart. It conjuncts my midheaven exact in cancer.There is a man whose Mars aspects my true Lilith from the drop down menu and he finds me highly attractive and is very aggressive with me verbally and mentally and likes to question every word I say and this upsets me! I feel like I have to defend myself all the time with his machoness I felt the same way with another man who squared my mean Lilith SAME ISSUE!!! my ex now aspects it with her Mars as well and same thing except it's more EASY because she is a woman and has a feminine soft side and we can express the energy of my true Lilith passionately but I still feel at times that she wants a home with me ans wants me to be her BRIEDE and I feel so pressured when she mentiones it. Lilith tends to want to lead or defently wants to feel she has a chair to sit in go everything. Honestly there are so many ways true Lilith can manifest there is NO RIGHT DEFINITION. BUT from my experience true Lilith from the drop down menu does manifest with me at least. Her Mars & Briede is her 7th ruler in Capricorn in the 4th house. My true Lilith from the drop down menu in Capricorn in the 4th house SQUARE Nessus in the 1st house in libra. ------------------ Addicted to Self Relfection - Jupiter R in the 12th House IP: Logged |
angel4845 Knowflake Posts: 2591 From: USA Registered: Oct 2014
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posted June 02, 2016 04:38 PM
I believe women that have a STRONG LILITH not weakly ASPECTED tend to feel Lilith deeply and that side comes out in synastry or composite. I don't know that's just a thought. Everyone has there experience with Lilith.  ------------------ Addicted to Self Relfection - Jupiter R in the 12th House IP: Logged |