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Lonake
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posted December 03, 2014 11:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So far (3 of them) it seems SN becomes excited and is energized by being around Mars, even to the point of showing off...and Mars feels some kind of either physical attraction, or wanting to go out and be active with SN.

What do you think?
Either non-romantic or something more personal, no matter.

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Lonake
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posted December 03, 2014 11:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It just seems like there's a potent energy source available to the people involved, through their interaction with each other.

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posted December 03, 2014 11:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for midnightvenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've had experience with Venus conj. SN. I read that conjunctions with the SN are usually related to past life stuff. In the case of Venus-SN, apparently Venus might have hurt the SN person, so now they'd try to make up to them; I also read that they usually "recognize" each other in this life. And it really was kinda like it. Idk about Mars though.

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posted December 04, 2014 12:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've got VENUS/MARS=SNODE, with a 6° conjunction to his MARS. (For karmic astrology, expanding to 10° is acceptable, so long as a configuration has been established.) In my case, it's PSYCHE/EROS conjunct VENUS/MARS, both of which are on my SNODE, 1°, and opposite my ISIS/OSIRIS, 3°.

Then his SNODE is conjunct my MARS (3°) along with his SATURN-KARMA. Technically, MOON/MARS=SNODE, 0°. My 3H, but straddling his MC.

We used to develop for TV together. I loved it. Miss it. I've been debating upon getting back into it.

There was always a surge of energy, and the 'vibe' of creation. It's all in his 1H, and my 6H. My MOON/URA is square his MARS, though, so that gave it an extra electric jolt.

I've often thought the link is indicative of our past, or alternate eigenstate experiences, however. VENUS/MARS and EROS/PSYCHE just about covers it. His MARS is also quindecile my VENUS, with his SNODE conjunct my MOON (and his KARMA-SATURN) and my MARS. Lots of interplay.

I'd say the real dynamism was in the DW; 6° mine to his, 3° his to mine. Hard to say whose MARS 'owes' more to whose SNODE. If you look at the aspects -- MARS conjunct KARMA/SATURN-SNODE, and SNODE conjunct MARS (+VENUS and EROS/PSYCHE), it can be gleaned rather easily the completely bungled soulmate relationship we had going on.

Whenever I see SNODE links, I look to KARMA, too. His KARMA naturally squares his MARS as well, (1°) tying back into the pattern.

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posted December 04, 2014 01:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Right on.

Does it feel quite special, the energy you two generate?
Idk if special is the right word, but yeah, the word I want is close to that :-)

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posted December 04, 2014 02:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Extremely so, Lonake. I found out earlier this year (March) that he's my Twin. I wasn't sure if I could buy that, even though I've known that's true in a place I can't even articulate.

Special is a good word. I think that the dual MARS-SNODE is more linked to our unresolved tendencies to create tension and war with each other than anything else. But when constructively channelled, especially into creativity, we were really unstoppable.

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posted December 04, 2014 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://astrolady.wix.com/astrolady#!mars-conjunct-south-node-in-synastry/ck5c


http://astrolady.wix.com/astrolady#!the-south-node-in-synastry/cwx9

Found this on SN synastry.

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posted December 04, 2014 11:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Keela     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
I've got VENUS/MARS=SNODE, with a 6° conjunction to his MARS. (For karmic astrology, expanding to 10° is acceptable, so long as a configuration has been established.) In my case, it's PSYCHE/EROS conjunct VENUS/MARS, both of which are on my SNODE, 1°, and opposite my ISIS/OSIRIS, 3°.

Then his SNODE is conjunct my MARS (3°) along with his SATURN-KARMA. Technically, MOON/MARS=SNODE, 0°.

Hard to say whose MARS 'owes' more to whose SNODE. If you look at the aspects -- MARS conjunct KARMA/SATURN-SNODE, and SNODE conjunct MARS (+VENUS and EROS/PSYCHE), it can be gleaned rather easily the completely bungled soulmate relationship we had going on.

Whenever I see SNODE links, I look to KARMA, too. His KARMA naturally squares his MARS as well, (1°) tying back into the pattern.


Could you clarify still who had the Venus-Mars and Eros/Psyche in your cases? He had both or you had one pair, as well as it being your SN?

On top of that, you've now made me interested in a pattern of someone's Mars conj their SN, when their Karma conjuncts my Venus. My SN conjuncts their Sun, and I have (Karma conjunct Sun) square that, sextile their Mars/SN, AND Karma-Sun trine their Venus in turn. Suns and Nodes, Venuses in contact with Karma. I guess also with their Pluto 2 conj my Karma/2 square Nodes.

If going by IQ's "mirrored" degrees or signs (solstice point style but not Antiscia), my Venus at 6 Virgo also ties to 23 Gemini which is a degree from the person's Mars. I don't normally use his "sign-swaps" but am aware of them and note interesting hits like that in the background. The "mirror degree" of my Mars would be 25 Virgo which'd square his Nodes in turn. In Antiscia it's "conjunct" their NN-ruler Jupiter.

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posted December 05, 2014 01:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Keela:
Could you clarify still who had the Venus-Mars and Eros/Psyche in your cases? He had both or you had one pair, as well as it being your SN?

On top of that, you've now made me interested in a pattern of someone's Mars conj their SN, when their Karma conjuncts my Venus. My SN conjuncts their Sun, and I have (Karma conjunct Sun) square that, sextile their Mars/SN, AND Karma-Sun trine their Venus in turn. Suns and Nodes, Venuses in contact with Karma. I guess also with their Pluto 2 conj my Karma/2 square Nodes.

If going by IQ's "mirrored" degrees or signs (solstice point style but not Antiscia), my Venus at 6 Virgo also ties to 23 Gemini which is a degree from the person's Mars. I don't normally use his "sign-swaps" but am aware of them and note interesting hits like that in the background. The "mirror degree" of my Mars would be 25 Virgo which'd square his Nodes in turn. In Antiscia it's "conjunct" their NN-ruler Jupiter.


AND your VENUS is 2º from my VENUS. Wow, Keela!

I think the 'mirrordegrees', if I recall correctly, was Ceri's variation on the solstice points. I could be entirely mistaken.

As to the rest ...

He's got VENUS/MARS and PSYCHE/EROS, on 19º and 18º Aquarius, respectively. 18º AQU is my SNODE.

His SNODE is 27º SCO; his KARMA-SATURN is at 24º and 23º Scorpio; my MOON is at 24ºSCO57.

I tend to write these shorthand as:

VENUS/MARS=SNODE
PSYCHE/EROS=SNODE
SNODE/KARMA/SATURN=MOON
MOON/MARS=SNODE

His PLUTO is also exactly conjunct my KARMA. 04º Scorpio.

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posted December 05, 2014 02:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for manderin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know if this is valid, since Vedic astrology isn't as into synastry as western is, but according to a couple of vedic sites it is a good synastry aspect to have.


"Ketu(SN) conjunct partners Mars: This is good synastry match because this combination resolves past life issues with each other. This combination diminishes argumentative and fight habits of each other. This combination is good for long term relationship."

It then goes on to say that the opposite- Rahu (NN) conjunct mars is a bad synastry aspect to have in a relationship.

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posted December 05, 2014 05:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Keela     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
AND your VENUS is 2º from my VENUS. Wow, Keela!

I think the 'mirrordegrees', if I recall correctly, was Ceri's variation on the solstice points. I could be entirely mistaken.

He's got VENUS/MARS and PSYCHE/EROS, on 19º and 18º Aquarius, respectively. 18º AQU is my SNODE.

His SNODE is 27º SCO; his KARMA-SATURN is at 24º and 23º Scorpio; my MOON is at 24ºSCO57.

I tend to write these shorthand as:

VENUS/MARS=SNODE
PSYCHE/EROS=SNODE
SNODE/KARMA/SATURN=MOON
MOON/MARS=SNODE

His PLUTO is also exactly conjunct my KARMA. 04º Scorpio.


Ok, thank you for the clarification. Your synastry's come up many times no doubt but I got confused there.

First I ran into the other points or system was in an old email with IQ, a past asteroid-side thread seeming to confirm that they were his thought, but "seeming to" isn't always how things went. I didn't get a link to wherever they were discussed, just that think that name was something gone for with them? Been ages since I got even those comments though so my memory (= is what it is) + not having seen the original thread where they were all discussed => not knowing what's what.

Cancer-Leo, Gemini-Virgo, Aries-Scorpio, Libra-Taurus, Sagittarius-Pisces and Capricorn-Aquarius were the signs in any case, however they'd work. I know IQ said he preferred them to solstice points (at least back some years ago) but my chart operates strongly through antiscia so those have worked for me personally. Doesn't negate though that the "mirror" (?) degree of my NN is around 3.50 Aries when my MC is ~2.40ish Aries or something such. Near, whatever its significance (or lack thereof).

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If I didn't list my DOB details in one of the old emails, feel free to ask me in email. My charts are here and there but I don't tout the birth details here. I don't think I have your details either though so if you want to share, I'm open to having the info on the email side for sometime later. No idea how your Moon or Mars near my NN will help me though, but presumably meant to then or something. Moon goes a bit far to square my Moon (~6 orb) but Mars loosely opposite Mars seems there, so whatever that gets on top, have.

Looking more closely I see your Moon's antiscia is about 5 Aquarius so there is a near "conjunction" to my 6.53 Aqua DC, too.

I see your antiscia Eros 18 Aquarius hits his Psyche-Eros as well as your SN then, okay.


I need to figure out WHAT in my chart at around 19 Leo leads to synastry hits with that, since as far as I now know I only have Makemake and some asteroids on the spot. Athanasia, Shepherd I think, I forget what. My Vertex is 19 Sag so it shouldn't be THAT active on the Leo-Aquarius signs.

My family (mother in particular) had hits to 19 Leo, other people seem to hit it often enough, and I don't know what I'd supposedly have to touch base with it so much for synastry. Unless people are wrong and Makemake acts in a much more personal fashion than believed, or I'm somehow receptive to MM or something.

Antiscia explained a great deal about my synastry interactions with people but I have very few explanations for why people contact 15-17 Cancer so often with me (all I have there is asteroids, and Valentine's contrascia at 15 Can?) and 19 Leo is the other mystery spot often hit for no apparent reason. Something's missing from my knowledge still, unless Makemake and some asteroids are stronger than people think.

By all means drop me a line though if I turn out to have traipsed through your past lives in passing at some stage, with your male example's SN conj my NN and my Karma-Sun square them. "Sooner or later you end up knowing everybody," what?

(Pardon my rambling. Just verbose in writing.)

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posted December 05, 2014 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by manderin:
It then goes on to say that the opposite- Rahu (NN) conjunct mars is a bad synastry aspect to have in a relationship.



Curious. Yeah I don't think I react well Mars conj NN. A close orb. Wider one I can do.
Saturn NN otoh is tough but worth it somehow.
Thnx for posting.

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posted December 05, 2014 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for manderin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had a bad reaction with someone who's mars conjuncted my NN too, but my NN is in the 12th house so any planets in there are not likely to be a good relationship for me as it is the house of secret enemies.

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posted December 05, 2014 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, in this regard Jan Spiller is completely right in her book 'Cosmic Love' about Mars/SN conj in synastry;

"If you are Mars (so she starts at page 411) this might be - at-the-start - the most INTENS SEXUAL experience of your life!"

Yess that's e x a c t l y right! ^^

(we never survived more than the start so I'm still bearing the cross of it lol)

I was Mars conjunct his SN (orb 0'13!)

Talked about him too much on board here..

But we had some other things connected, like an exact Mars/Mars square (0'06) and Venus/Mars opp. by less than 1,5 deg (my Mars).

Also;
His NN 19 Leo.
my NN 14,5 Aqua.

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posted December 08, 2014 05:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didn't like it - it was also conjunct my Moon/Venus, and square my Mars. My sister's husband, who hit on me more than once, and destroyed my relationship with my sister (or contributed heavily to that). He brings anxiety/stress to my life.

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posted December 09, 2014 06:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JoJo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Me and mine have DW Mars conjunct SN at 4 degrees and 1 degree.

We also have

Mars Mars conjunction at 1 degree
Vertex conjunct ASC DW
Destinn Destinn conjunction
NN conjunct NN DW
Vertex Karma conjunction
Moon trine Moon
Venus Pluto conjunction

plus many more.

We were inevitable and the connection is not something I can explain, other than to say it just fits.

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posted December 09, 2014 08:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by JoJo:
Me and mine have DW Mars conjunct SN at 4 degrees and 1 degree.

We also have

Mars Mars conjunction at 1 degree
Vertex conjunct ASC DW
Destinn Destinn conjunction
NN conjunct NN DW
Vertex Karma conjunction
Moon trine Moon
Venus Pluto conjunction

plus many more.

We were inevitable and the connection is not something I can explain, other than to say it just fits.


Were you guys born REALLY close together? I forget. Or four years apart?

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posted December 09, 2014 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JoJo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was born in March, he in July. Same year.

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posted December 09, 2014 11:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've had positive experiences with this placement! My mum has her Scorpio Mars exactly on my SN at 0' Scorpio and I feel like I could tell her anything. I'd trust her with my life.
I've known more Scorpio Mars people with their Mars on my Pluto at 6' Scorpio (so not exactly on my SN) - I've always had really good relationships with them. It does feel energising and I also feel like I can count on them.

When it comes to the opposite - Taurus Mars on my NN/Venus.. I get seriously irritated by these guys. I don't know any women with this placement. The men just anger me. They seem too egotistical, childish and really selfish.
Maybe I haven't met an evolved one yet.

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posted December 10, 2014 12:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Odette:
When it comes to the opposite - Taurus Mars on my NN/Venus.. I get seriously irritated by these guys. I don't know any women with this placement. The men just anger me. They seem too egotistical, childish and really selfish.
Maybe I haven't met an evolved one yet.

At last! Someone who doesn't love a man's MARS on her VENUS! Unfortunately, I've had the absolute worst time with that conjunction. Sad. I keep wondering if I'm missing out. Heh.

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