posted December 05, 2014 07:07 AM            

What is the best aspect to have if you are lovers, and what is the best aspect to have if you are partners?

posted December 05, 2014 07:21 AM            

I think it's important to look at house overlays as well, though.
You can have "lovers" aspects and a 7th house Saturn, and that can stabilize your relationship.

posted December 05, 2014 09:17 AM            

Aspects to the 8th house ruler and/or planets falling in the 8th house are great for lovers. If the 7th house ruler or the 7th house itself are not aspected, the two people remain lovers but not partners. ( been there, done that).

posted December 05, 2014 09:35 AM              

Marital connections:
-Saturn aspects
- matching the other's "type" on multiple levels: usually you see a bit of 5th, a bit of 7th, a bit of 8th, when it comes to overlays and rulers, but then you need a complex web of aspects to form a marital relationship: matching luminary needs, Venus/Mars needs, Mercury and other intellectual/communication/common interests markers for basic mental/communication/interests compatibility (very important), a certain mutual degree of friendship/unconditional love/bien etre, a fate web (angles, nodes, vertices).

Overall, what you have in a marital relationship is not only the romantic/erotic layer, but also general compatibility (shared values, similar or compatible temperament, common interests, good communication, friendship etc.) plus the binding fate web: Saturn, angles, nodes, showing a common life path. It basically looks like a spiderweb you can't escape lol

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posted December 05, 2014 11:58 AM            

It's just bizarrely attractive in that fashion. I can imagine were they completely empty, and no one was throwing points into either, it'd lay dormant; perhaps activated by transit, or progression. Otherwise, if there are points occupying each, and aspects between them, and if PLUTO, MARS, VENUS, or MOON are involved -- seems to be all you need. For the darker edge, PRIAPUS and BML, too.

posted December 05, 2014 12:35 PM            

Saturn trine Venus especially if Saturn is the male.

Those are my top two best, but there are other really fantastic ones too.

For partners (which could mean best loyal friendships) Saturn trine Moon is my top.

posted December 05, 2014 12:44 PM            

Nodal rulers in beneficial aspect.

The aspect detailing the quality or emphasis of the union.

posted December 05, 2014 02:00 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
and if PLUTO, MARS, VENUS, or MOON are involved -- seems to be all you need. For the darker edge, PRIAPUS and BML, too.
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posted December 05, 2014 06:56 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
How would Priapus and BML play out in love synastry?
My squeeze's Venus conjuncts exactly my ASC/North Node/ Priapus and opposes my Sun/BML. All at 0 degree orb. His Venus parallels all that too. My Mars opposes his Venus but at a wider 6 degree orb.

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Wow! That's a nice interplay, Orange.

In my personal experience, PRIAPUS and BML have a primal quality to them. It's where the normal societally-approved behaviours get defenestrated. There's something edgy about it. I wouldn't necessarily kink becomes a factor, but true BDSM dynamics are established -- regardless of whether they're actively expressed.

This is one of my research projects, you might say. I hypothesise that BML, regardless of sex, will express itself in an independent, aloof, and very dominant fashion. These qualities may be easier to incorporate for a woman with those traits already familiar to her, but with men, it's ... curious. What I've seen so far, is a tendency to identify with 'feminist' leanings and embodying a very dominant personality. Much like Lilith's operation in a female natal. So while the air is of dominance and distance, they're far from macho, and don't mind being mavericks, if it's in the name of equality and justice.

PRIAPUS, on the other hand, creates the opposite. These men love sex. They're either fully indoctrinated in society's messages of masculinity, or they just know what gets them laid. So men with strong PRIAPUS tend to actively seek sex and relationships to validate a secretly lower self esteem, or simply because they have an overwhelming need to connect. Not surprising, many are sex addicts.

So bearing that in mind, I've noticed that BML naturally tends towards dominance and PRIAPUS inclines to submission.

When working with the two in charts, consider how they interplay with your overall synastry in comparison to the natal.

Exact aspects are going to be felt, and in a big way. So the VENUS-NNODE/PRIAPUS rising on your ASC undoubtedly has a place in your physical relationship. I've not studied VENUS-PRIAPUS as of yet, but I'd imagine a woman's PRIAPUS with a man's VENUS would be a lovely combo, so long as each are comfortable incorporating each other's anima and animus. A woman must be accepting of her PRIAPUS, and a man of his Venusian features, in order for the two to cooperate rather than clash.

Bringing the NNODE in, however, tells me it's really a crucial factor of your relationship. These energies need to blend and coincide peacefully, to create a harmonious connexion rather than a combative one. Such tight orb, too. Wow. Definitely.

In my experience, I have an exact conjunction of BML and PRIAPUS, where I'm the PRIAPUS. It's an overwhelming, unconscious, completely primal sexual attraction -- the potency of which I'd never experienced before. A LOT to process. Since my BML is 2° conjunct my SUN, I'm a Lilith type. 'Meeting' my PRIAPUS (8H) has been FAR from easy.

posted December 05, 2014 07:32 PM            

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What is the difference between LOVERS only and PARTNERS? As you see it?

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A partner is like a bestie, difference is you have sex with them. A lover is someone you crave physically.

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What is the best aspect to have if you are lovers, and what is the best aspect to have if you are partners?

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Venus-Mars for lovers. Sun-Venus for partners.

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Do you think being lovers means that you wont ever be fully committed? And that you wont succeed in a normal relationship?

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posted December 05, 2014 08:53 PM            

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Originally posted by Nine:
A partner is like a bestie, difference is you have sex with them. A lover is someone you crave physically.

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Huh. Seems like a sexual relationship is a component of both, so, how are you qualifying sex? If one is having sex, don't they, by default, 'crave' them physically? Otherwise, what is the motivation for a sexual relationship?

posted March 17, 2021 11:34 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
I've yet to see a 5H/8H overlay that wasn't sexual.

It's just bizarrely attractive in that fashion. I can imagine were they completely empty, and no one was throwing points into either, it'd lay dormant; perhaps activated by transit, or progression. Otherwise, if there are points occupying each, and aspects between them, and if PLUTO, MARS, VENUS, or MOON are involved -- seems to be all you need. For the darker edge, PRIAPUS and BML, too.

This is just my experience, but I've studied a handful of charts and am intrigued. I'd like to explore it more thoroughly with proper controls.

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posted March 22, 2021 09:49 AM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Huh. Seems like a sexual relationship is a component of both, so, how are you qualifying sex? If one is having sex, don't they, by default, 'crave' them physically? Otherwise, what is the motivation for a sexual relationship?

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posted June 12, 2023 01:09 PM            

Guy 2
Mars conjunct Saturn
Sun conjunct moon/lilith/pluto
Pluto trine Venus

Guy 3
Pluto conjunct moon/lilith/pluto
Venus oppose Mars
Taurus moon

Guy 4 we have only been on a few dates but I feel something