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BorntoDesire
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posted December 13, 2014 04:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BorntoDesire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IŽll try it without personal backround now:

A close conjunction in synastry between the sun and nessus ( 0°30) and the others sun and deja (1°10)...would you think this plays out like a nessus deja conjunction?

Thanks again!

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Randall
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posted December 13, 2014 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moving to Interpersonal Astrology.

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Aubyanne
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posted December 13, 2014 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Short answer: No.
Long answer: Possibly.

In the SUN conjunct NESSUS, the SUN is 'illuminating' NESSUS' latent obsessive tendencies, and ability to be calculating and ruthless. SUN to DEJA, on the other hand, highlights the other's understanding (and possibly, experience) of victimhood.

This can create a sort of theme, where DEJA will learn about certain elements of victimisation, whereas the NESSUS can better understand its own tendencies, or, if emotionally mature, help both to transcend obstacles.

But how these things will behave synastrically depends upon each natal and how they're positioned within it.

The NESSUS-DEJA is a whole other animal, in my experience, and it tends to be in relationship to a karmic debt.

I'd check the Draco synastry to see how they're operating there.

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BorntoDesire
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posted December 14, 2014 07:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BorntoDesire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you very much Aubyanne, this was indeed a very helpful insight....
You interpretation of nessus conj sun is not so dark as others would see it and for me it makes totally sense...

Do you think that asteroid / sun conjunctions are favourable for the asteroid person in general??

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Aubyanne
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posted December 14, 2014 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No worries, BTD. (Is that a take on the Lana Del Rey album, out of curiosity?)

The way I'm coming to see SUN to asteroid conjunctions is that there's a dual resonance going on. The SUN is illuminating the features, nature, elements, and qualities of the asteroid involved. However, the mere fact that the SUN is encountering the asteroid in synastry brings those qualities to the SUN. This is why, in natal work, asteroids conjunct the SUN have a tremendous influence upon our identity. It's as if they're lenses through which the SUN is shining.

It's a similar principle in synastry. The asteroid individual tosses up a lens through which the SUN is now shining. The SUN can't help but begin to notice these qualities in itself, as the asteroid is constantly reflecting back the altered image, which is now coloured by the asteroid. I feel this is how they're 'illuminated', ultimately.

Why do we find such a free and easy time when one's VENUS is conjunct our SUN? Why are we never quite sure with NEPTUNE? VENUS beams back to us the perspective it holds, which is a lovely aesthetic. But NEP may not be seeing things clearly; they may be seeing an idealised version of ourselves, in which case their rude awakening is going to be hell on the relationship.

With asteroids, it's a less complex interaction, but happens instantaneously on both sides.

When one's SUN is aligned with the other's DEJA, the lens through which the SUN is shining (and subsequently viewed) highlights the principles of victimhood; where we feel vulnerable, and fear being taken advantage. SUN illuminates DEJA's vulnerabilities, and is now made to confront its own image in light of it. How does the SUN operate through that lens?

Natally, SUN-DEJA is one who must confront issues in regards to vulnerability, victimisation, and being the object of another's ruthless desires. So when DEJA comes along in synastry to conjoin SUN, a temporary natal conjunction is what results (given the 'people are permanent transits' explanation). The SUN must now confront these issues as a result of its coming into contact with DEJA.

It's a bit less cut-and-dried as 'SUN illuminates DEJA's vulnerabilities' or 'DEJA will be victimised by the SUN'. Each of you create a different side of that natal aspect: they've got tDEJA on their SUN; but you've got the tSUN on DEJA.

What happens then?

tDEJA's going to be on one's SUN for about 2-3 days. But tSUN is only on nDEJANIRA for, maybe, 12 hours. That's why it 'illuminates' our natal DEJANIRA. But tDEJANIRA can certainly come along and make the SUN feel uneasy; having to contend with vulnerabilities and feelings of victimisation. We may be extra mindful of the ways in which we could be taken advantage. In those few days, we could come into contact with things that makes us helpless and afraid; against which we feel we have no recourse.

It always takes two to tango. When it comes to synastry, I look at how each are likely to be affected, from both sides.

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