posted December 13, 2014 01:53 PM            

Is progressed to progressed synastry as important as progressed to natals?

Do we look at the progressed moon although it moves fast?

posted December 13, 2014 04:08 PM            

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I am having a really hard time reading progressed synastry and determining whether things will last or not.
So what are aspects that point to lasting attraction? What points to break up?

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Sun/Venus – Venus/Mars – Venus/Venus. Trines/oppositions/conjunctions. A total lack of aforementioned and/or only squares between those TOO often point to ‘not coming closer’ or ‘outside circumstances that prevent us from coming closer’ or ‘obstacles’ which in fact force us to ‘let go’. In case we find a trine and a square at the same time, we consider it a 50/50 case, a matter of; which one will win?

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Is progressed to progressed synastry as important as progressed to natals?

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Yes.

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Do we look at the progressed moon although it moves fast?

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Yes. Thanks to our progressed expert Nine this is now part of our NATAL progessed research and I have to admit; with astounding results since I apply it to my own life and that of others. First we look at the progressed Moon in relation to the progressed Sun in both natal charts. During the start of a relationship we often see a 4th harmonic aspect between those; pSun/pMoon square/opp./conj. (so hanging around the first or last quarter, or new or full moon). If not, we try to spot a 4th harmonic aspect from the progressed Moon to the natal Sun. Also a frequent occurrence and both point to the drive for a new start.

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For examples what if two people don't have any moon/moon aspects in synasry but their progressed has a moon/moon opposition (a bit wide but still) is it enough to say that they will last?

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Not that I’m aware of. Not when it comes to the Moon I must say.

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Is progressed venus or sun in a separating square to the other natal venus sun always a deal breaker?

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posted December 13, 2014 04:10 PM            

The one who's got this down to a science, in my opinion, is mir. So, much of my working knowledge these days has been supplemented by her expertise.

The progressed natal is how far we've come, where we are, and what we're doing. The progressed MOON, for example, is our emotional development, with the pSUN changing more slowly, as our identity shifts over time. New aspects are made as the natal ones fade, or become stronger.

Progressed to progressed synastry is akin to finding a big box of costumes with your significant other (or, whomever possesses the other chart). Say their pMOON is going through ARIES, and yours is LIBRA. They're likely to grab the viking hat and a wooden sword. You might grab a judge's robes -- and a box of chocolates. He's going to take a class in stage combat, whereas you might opt to learn mediation.

If you're both natal MOON in AQUARIUS, you'll likely enjoy exploring these different facets of yourself in a theoretical, intellectual capacity. But, if one is a lunar Piscean, and the other, MOON in LEO, the latter is more likely to approach it theatrically with a means to gain greater attention, or move up in the ranks; the MOON in PISCES may be more tempted to go on a pilgrimage, looking at the spiritual angle, or thinking about donating the costumes once they're done with them.

So, we've always got to take into account the natal in relationship to the progressed placements.

I've never been a fan of a lack of natal synastry in any capacity. To me, progressed synastry is the switch that can get flipped, which must be attached to some mechanism present in the natal synastry. No mechanism -- what does the switch do when flipped? Not much -- if anything.

I've discovered that, once there's natal synastry in play, that pVENUS to nSUN, or nVENUS to pSUN aspects are fabulous for getting the fire ignited.

Will it last? I look to the natal.

If you've got progressed aspects playing off of natal aspects, that's a winning combination.

posted June 22, 2017 02:56 AM            

I broke up with several guys during a tight appl. pVenus conj nAsc in our prog synastry, that was HARD! No meaningless objects for sure.

posted June 22, 2017 05:14 AM            

Yes progressed tropical helio charts
Him: venus 22 Taurus
Me: venus 21 Scorpio

And his natal venus is 20 Scorpio!
My natal ASC in 15 Scorpio

It was instant when we first met 11 years ago. But I was with someone then... the attraction has never waned.

posted July 03, 2017 02:45 AM            

Maybe I'm simplistic (Taurus Venus) but I happen to feel that no matter what progressions we go through...our chart is our chart...and maybe it doesn't equate to a couple being together today (because of some progressions or maybe she or he is a wanderlust traveling Mars Conjunct Jupiter person). The point I'm trying to make is the synastry (or lack of) will prevail.

You may have a Progressed Sun Conjunct Natal Venus, or whatever but if the synastry doesn't support compatibility with the big three (Asc/Sun/Moon) ultimately your relationship won't go the distance. I know that this will upset a lot of people who say you don't need this. But it certainly doesn't hurt things. People have different needs, and I think it's important we don't get bogged down in trying to do secondary progressions or whatever but focus on the meat and bones of a chart and go from there with the synastry. Obviously this depends on the person. A Cancer type like myself (ie a person with Sun/Moon or Asc in Cancer) would need strong Moon ties no matter what, verses a strong Gemini or Mercury Sun/Moon/Rising person. If you touch their Mercury strongly no matter progressions they face you matter to them. I just wanted to say this.