posted December 28, 2014 07:42 PM            

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Originally posted by lisalisa:
Hi, what are some of the bad aspects of this chart? And can they be overcome? Is this chart good or bad in general? What are some things to look out for? And how to adress it? Is there a binding force or is there repulsion? What are some repulsions from the male part (blue) and the female's (red)? What are some of the strong attractions? And binding force? Could the attraction withold the test of time? Or does this fall apart easily? The male is gemini rising though degrees unknown - almost certain his moon is in the 9th..

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I'll mention a couple of things. Overall, it looks like he's the more practical and down to earth of the two of you, which is the ideal complement to you with his Taurus stellium in your 7th house. You both have connections with each other's 7th houses, that is - if he in fact has Gemini rising - given his 7th house ruler being conjunct your Sun.

His Sun-Mercury trines to your Neptune and your Moon in opposition to his Neptune may indicate you're sensitive and in tune with each other. At times, there may be misunderstandings or confusion with the Moon-Neptune opposition, or a tendency to avoid hard truths. It's very important to have clear communication, particular when it comes to needs and feelings.

In looking at his Saturn in Libra square your Neptune, you're probably going to deal with his vulnerability or fears of relationship. It will depend on if or how much he's worked on this. Saturn in Libra in particular is often afraid of intimate relationships and yet they take relationship very seriously. It's their deep desire and at the same time their greatest fear. Also, there's a tendency to separate rather than work through conflicts, it's the line of least resistance. Another thing is a tendency to want to be the more dominant partner. Saturn in Libra may need to learn how to have a relationship of equals. Given your first house Pluto opposing his Sun, power issues may come into play.

I think your tendency to idealization of the significant male figures in your life will be challenged at times in this relationship. As long as you're willing to see things as they are, then you won't be disillusioned.

It looks like you have one significant Saturn aspect, a Sun-Saturn conjunction, but no Saturn aspects to your Ascendant, Moon, Venus, or Mars, or his planets on your IC, which are so often seen in long term relationships or marriages. But, I also don't see Uranus strong in the synastry, so I don't see a tendency towards a sudden breakup or falling apart either.

Just a few things to think about.

posted December 28, 2014 09:25 PM            

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Originally posted by lisalisa:
@peony, you say not alot of saturn to make it long term? Are there other aspects that indicate this won't be long term? Or are there aspects that indicate this can work for long term?

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I answered this:

"But, I also don't see Uranus strong in the synastry, so I don't see a tendency towards a sudden breakup or falling apart either."

"Are the good aspects overruled by the negative ?"

Maybe some other people will weigh in.

posted December 29, 2014 07:07 AM            

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Originally posted by peony:
I answered this:

"But, I also don't see Uranus strong in the synastry, so I don't see a tendency towards a sudden breakup or falling apart either."

"Are the good aspects overruled by the negative ?"

Maybe some other people will weigh in.

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If he is gemini rising, my uranus could conjunct his dsc or falll in his 7th would that be negative?

posted December 29, 2014 09:05 PM            

I'll be straight with you. This is a SNODE-based relationship, and it appears it's concluded, whether for now, or permanently -- no one can say. It's a different story if there's a lot of NNODE activity, but there isn't. It's all SNODE heavy. Those tend to be intense and short-lived, often confusing those involved, given the initial passion and intensity.

Also, it looks like you're having a SNODE return; your relationship very well may have ended during the 0° conjunction of the tSNODE to your nSNODE.

Are you sure your karma wasn't cleared and you're just longing for the feeling of the old relationship? No doubt with how much of his chart quindeciles your Scorpio VENUS (which is obsessive naturally) you're likely addicted.

Have you considered getting help from a trusted friend to get through this? Sometimes we can't actually do it on our own, and we need to lean upon those who can be our strength.

posted December 29, 2014 09:22 PM            

Thing about VERTEX links is that they're sudden, extremely powerful and, obviously, intensely fated. These relationships can burn brightly -- and burn out too quickly without enough sanity and pragmatism.

Consider your PLUTO. How it's positioned, and what it's doing synastrically. That can help you understand what's outstanding karma between you. I'm going to bet it was resolved when the tSNODE returned to the position of your nSNODE, though.

posted December 29, 2014 10:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
If anything, pay attention to your PLUTO square his NODES, from what I can tell, at least. It's conjunct his VERTEX as well, making the VERTEX/PLUTO=NODES a significant karmic pattern.

Thing about VERTEX links is that they're sudden, extremely powerful and, obviously, intensely fated. These relationships can burn brightly -- and burn out too quickly without enough sanity and pragmatism.

Consider your PLUTO. How it's positioned, and what it's doing synastrically. That can help you understand what's outstanding karma between you. I'm going to bet it was resolved when the tSNODE returned to the position of your nSNODE, though.

Think about that time.

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posted December 29, 2014 10:46 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
I'm not sure this is healthy, lisalisa, or a good use of your time. You're asking things like whether you've met your Twin Flame, (and I can guarantee you that hasn't happened) and obsessing over your ex.

I'll be straight with you. This is a SNODE-based relationship, and it appears it's concluded, whether for now, or permanently -- no one can say. It's a different story if there's a lot of NNODE activity, but there isn't. It's all SNODE heavy. Those tend to be intense and short-lived, often confusing those involved, given the initial passion and intensity.

Also, it looks like you're having a SNODE return; your relationship very well may have ended during the 0° conjunction of the tSNODE to your nSNODE.

Are you sure your karma wasn't cleared and you're just longing for the feeling of the old relationship? No doubt with how much of his chart quindeciles your Scorpio VENUS (which is obsessive naturally) you're likely addicted.

Have you considered getting help from a trusted friend to get through this? Sometimes we can't actually do it on our own, and we need to lean upon those who can be our strength.

I really, really think you need to meditate on how much time and energy this is taking from you. Take it from one who knows -- it isn't worth it. It really, truly isn't.

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posted December 29, 2014 11:05 PM            

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Originally posted by lisalisa:
The twinflame is not him..
It's a man i met 5 years ago under very strange circumstances, he is married so we can never be together.. And the fact that he's 25 years older than me

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posted December 29, 2014 11:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Wow ... that's bizarre. You're right. I automatically assumed, given the Taurus stellium. My apologies. This guy's born a month later than your ex?

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posted December 29, 2014 11:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
I don't think you're a Twin Flame, to be honest. I think you're here to learn some tough lessons in regards to self esteem, independence, and interdependence.

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posted December 29, 2014 11:37 PM            

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Originally posted by lisalisa:
This taurus is not my ex.. We're dating..
The twinflame question is about a man i met some time ago and had almost sex with after 10 minutes i met him, we felt so close it's absurd.

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posted December 29, 2014 11:40 PM            

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Originally posted by lisalisa:
You don't raise above your emotions and get personal i think you are the person who needs the learning

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Because I derive logical conclusions regarding exhibited behaviour? Odd, as that's the epitome of 'rising above one's emotions'.

And let's leave the ad hominem attacks at the door, please. I don't appreciate them in the forum.

posted December 29, 2014 11:49 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
That's hardly an indication of a Twin Flame. In fact, if he was married at the time, he's not exactly the evolved type, is he?

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posted December 29, 2014 11:49 PM            

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Originally posted by lisalisa:
This is the chart of this man his TOB is unknown and also his birth year could be different but i asked him several times and he stated this was it

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posted December 29, 2014 11:59 PM            

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Originally posted by lisalisa:
No not married at that time, he got married in august this year.. He's muslim and lives in a islamic country so i could never be his wife

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Huh. Well, 25 years is quite enough of a wedge to stall any sexual relations. Why do you feel you never attempted anything together, if, as you say, it was an instantaneous bonding?

posted December 30, 2014 12:03 AM            

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Originally posted by lisalisa:
Could it go back ontopic?

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posted December 30, 2014 12:07 AM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Sure. I'd be concerned over the lack of NNODE contacts.

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