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mztiny
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posted January 16, 2015 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mztiny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a first date with a man who's Nessus (in his 7th house) is conjunct my Venus.

His mars's in (Cancer 1) falls in his 7th house as well.

Should I be worried about abuse?

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posted January 16, 2015 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moving to Interpersonal Astrology.

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posted January 16, 2015 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What sign is if in and is his Nessus retrograde ? How does his Nessus aspect in his own chart?

I would definitely watch out for abuse, loving you will bring out a very raw powerful feeling in him...and yes if he's not in complete control over himself emotionally it could turn on you.

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posted January 16, 2015 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mztiny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His Nessus is retrograde Cancer 2 (7th house)
His Progressed Nessus is Cancer 1

His Nessus conjunct Mars (7th house)
His Nessus Trine Uranus (10th house)
His Nessus semisquare Mercury (11th house)
His Nessus Semisextil Saturn (8th house)

His Natal Mars Cancer 1 retrograde (7th house)
My Natal Venus Cancer 1 retrograde(11th house)

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posted January 16, 2015 08:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mztiny:
His Nessus is retrograde Cancer 2 (7th house)
His Progressed Nessus is Cancer 1

His Nessus conjunct Mars (7th house)
His Nessus Trine Uranus (10th house)
His Nessus semisquare Mercury (11th house)
His Nessus Semisextil Saturn (8th house)

His Natal Mars Cancer 1 retrograde (7th house)
My Natal Venus Cancer 1 retrograde(11th house)


Whoa!! His Nessus is so much like mine!! I have Cancer rx, conjunct Mars rx, trine Uranus...semi sextile Saturn, quincux Merc.

What I can say about cancer Nessus retrograde conjunct Mars is sexuality needs to very raw and edgy to keep them satisfied. This being on your Venus means your love style will bring out a very raw animalistic nature from him.
My Nessus is 3 degrees from Mars, so it's not super tight. I'm able to keep the energy under control but I have had times where it felt almost to much to handle, I can't imagine how hard it would be for a guy with all that testosterone running through them.
I think it all depends on the persons willingness to spritual grow and work hard on personal development to keep their feelings and urges in check.
I would not completely rule him out but please keep your eyes and ears open.
The retrograde has made my Nessus energy directed inward so I have been cruel and heartless to myself at time, very self destructive in sexual relationships...things like this could become your problem if you fall in love.

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posted January 16, 2015 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mztiny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you soooo much for enlightening me and sharing your intimate thoughts.

I'm really looking for a sweet, sexual,loving relationship. I'm not sure I can take a very raw and edgy ride.

This makes me nervous...I am assuming a raw and edgy side means...kinky and rough?

and just so I am clear...this feeling/urge you have...have you ever felt you wanted to be violent towards another?

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posted January 16, 2015 09:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I married someone who had his mars on my Nessus, he was abusive to me.
Through him my Nessus energy became very active, it took a couple years of his abuse but when it came out it was with a vengeance.
I fought it in myself but eventually I couldn't hold it back.

When I started standing up for myself, let myself hate the way I was being treated and wanted not to be hurt anymore, i became full of rage for ALL the ppl who had hurt me, and it was focused at him. I went from complete doormat to kind of evil overnight.

I have to be honest I had times when i was scared of myself.
My thoughts were dark and intense. At times they were so full of negativity and rage, the ideas that would come into my head were violent and focused against him.
Of course I never acted on them but I was still scared of what was going through my head, I couldn't believe it was me thinking that....he's told me he became scared of me, I'm only 5'2! Lol
It only lasted a few years and that darkness has disappeared now, but no one is hurting me and triggering that Nessus energy in me anymore.

Its intense and it's not something to play with, Nessus is a very dark energy.

My sons Sun trines my Nessus, his Mars squares my Neasus
I dated a guy who's ascendant sat on my Nessus
Dated a guy who's Venus trined my Nessus
Another guy who's AC squared my Nessus
My daughters Mars squares my Nessus

Even with all those ppl touching my Nessus, ive never had any of those feelings with anyone else but my ex husband....and my kids are teenagers so it's possible!! Lol

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posted January 16, 2015 09:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, kinky and rough sexually would be part of Mars/Nessus energy....sorry
Not all the time but without out at all...sex feels empty and boring after awhile.
It's like you have this intense need to get out that raw energy every once in awhile. The energy builds up and if it can't be released it gets stressful and creates frustration and anger, which can unfortunately be focused at your partner who's not giving you anyway to outlet the energy.
It can be very stressful for your partner to, especially if they cant understand this is something you can't control, and they are not into it and don't want to be.

If you don't have a lot of scorp/scorp Mars or Pluto touching your Venus or Mars your probably not going to want to go to the dark places this placement might make him need to go every once in awhile.

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posted January 16, 2015 10:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Trying to keep this light....hope I didn't offend anyone

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posted January 16, 2015 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also retrograde Nessus in cancer can indicate abuse by someone who was supposed to be a nuturung loving parental figure...since it falls in his 7th house it's highly likely he will be using relationships to work through the pain that created the Nessus anger and hurt.

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posted January 17, 2015 08:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mztiny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you sooo much gabby, I'm really sorry you had to go through that but you survived and that makes me happy.

All your insight is really good, still trying to process it all. I will take all your advice and experience with me on this date.

I tend to attracted a lot of scorpions and my pluto is square my venus natally. I know for a fact I cant experience the dark side of sex with someone...as I just finished with a man that already did that to me. I survived and know I NEVER want to do that again.

So thank you, this is really good information to take with me.
Thank you again!!!💛

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posted January 17, 2015 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm glad you survived, sorry for the stress you went through also, that kind of thing is tough if your not prepared...very shocking and painful.

The last guy I dated had Venus square Mars natal.....I kind of try to feel ppl out early to see if they are open, as I don't want to hurt anyone when my own Nessus energy rears it's ugly head. I want to find out if they have the ability to work with me and what I go through and need when his ugly energy comes out.

His Pluto square Venus was not a good match, he was very sensitive and I could tell it would not work. I was afraid he would get emotionally hurt instead of being able to understand. Its one reason I broke it off.
Sadly this energy is now part of who I am.

I went the 1st 25 years of my life without realizing it was there.....total denial of the truth.
Although I have to admit I had very dark terrifying dreams and emotions at times, but it seemed like I was in a different world. It felt like I was someone else when I felt them. I let myself believe it was ONLY a dream.

It was not until my ex woke me back up to the abuse id went through as a child and was repressing. He woke me up through his abuse, it was the same kind of abuse Id already been through.

I have a feeling anyone with Nessus closely touching them personally probably has some serious repressed memories of some sort of abuse. I wouldn't want to be the person that brings things memories to the surface! Lol

I'm so glad my Mars is in gemini, Mars gemini@29.33/Nessus cancer@2.50.
I'm glad because a mercury mars isn't physical, my thoughts were easily contained in my head, not having so much intensity and desire to physically act on.
If someone had this with an aries, scorpio or capricorn mars....whoa! Run for your life! Lol

Funny thing is my nessus in cancer wants to nurture you....be your everything(watch out for this) this nurturing can be to the point you can't live without me, but it's not a kindness, it's not love, it's a way to control someone.
This is something I must watch in myself and not allow it to take over.
I try to find the positives in these messed up energies/aspects and use them for the good they can provide.
This particular one does give me a drive to fulfill someone's every need...I just have to watch out that it doesn't turn dark on them and become something passive aggressive and dark for them or me.

See how real I have to be? It's the only way to protect others from what's going on inside me...it gets easier everyday. The more you learn to love yourself and stop looking to others to meet all your needs, the energy will weaken and not be in control of you, you can control it.
Maybe I see this because it's retrograde and I internalize the energy and my mars is gemini a very thinking sign.... so don't count on all person, esp one with a direct Nessus to see this.(but his is retrograde also)

If he's not this open and real with his own issues, willing to see where things are wrong inside himself, take responsibility for it and keep it in check I would not want to be in a sexually close relationship with him.

We're not bad, we're just hurt a bit more than what one person can handle and unfortunately it's changed us a bit.

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posted January 18, 2015 12:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mztiny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you gabby, you really are a blessing to expose all this. I really appreciate it and hopefully this can help someone else who might encounter this along the way.

The guy that I'm soon to have a date is already showing the urgencies and we haven't even had our first date...ugh. Anyway...my eyes are OPEN thanks to you!

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posted January 18, 2015 12:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mztiny:
Thank you gabby, you really are a blessing to expose all this. I really appreciate it and hopefully this can help someone else who might encounter this along the way.

The guy that I'm soon to have a date is already showing the urgencies and we haven't even had our first date...ugh. Anyway...my eyes are OPEN thanks to you!


Don't put up with any pushy behaviors. End it quick if he seems to push to hard and doesn't respect your need for independence and space. Don't let him get attached to you if you feel anything that makes you feel pressured or uncomfortable!

Good Luck!!

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posted January 18, 2015 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for la_mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
this is very helpful, thanks for asking about that contact mztiny! had a fling with someone who has nessus conjunct mars in the 8th house in cancer and I've seen his blog which is full of kinky stuff.. I can easily believe that he would use 8th house themes to compensate his issues or release stress/anger/frustrations. it doesn't help that my venus is right in the middle between the two, my mars is in opposition to the conjunction and that his sun-stellium in virgo is square my sun-stellium in gemini. from time to time, when he suddenly signals sexual interest in me again, it feels like a heavy blanket around my shoulders. didn't notice that at first, because there was a build-up when we got to know each other, but now it's like walking from a room with air condition into the jungle, lol

no idea if he gets or knows about this side within himself like you do gabby but thank you so much for sharing your experiences!

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posted January 18, 2015 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by la_mer:
this is very helpful, thanks for asking about that contact mztiny! had a fling with someone who has nessus conjunct mars in the 8th house in cancer and I've seen his blog which is full of kinky stuff.. I can easily believe that he would use 8th house themes to compensate his issues or release stress/anger/frustrations. it doesn't help that my venus is right in the middle between the two, my mars is in opposition to the conjunction and that his sun-stellium in virgo is square my sun-stellium in gemini. from time to time, when he suddenly signals sexual interest in me again, it feels like a heavy blanket around my shoulders. didn't notice that at first, because there was a build-up when we got to know each other, but now it's like walking from a room with air condition into the jungle, lol

no idea if he gets or knows about this side within himself like you do gabby but thank you so much for sharing your experiences!


It's not all bad!

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posted January 19, 2015 05:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for la_mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gabby:
It's not all bad!

I believe you and nothing in synastry is just plain bad or good, still important to be aware of the energy

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posted January 20, 2015 01:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I believe you and nothing in synastry is just plain bad or good, still important to be aware of the energy

Agreed, esp this one because it's so hard to handle and quite frankly it's hard to talk about with others. It's like this dirty little secret that you think shows your a bad person, do your terrified to tell anyone about or talk about it for fear of condemnation and judgment.

I think if more people come out and talk amount these dark things we hold inside, it would give us the power to overcome them. By hiding them they keep us in their control...but by exposing them to see them in light of day they don't look so big and bad. They become something manageable and we can find others that also deal with it, see we are not alone and dark thoughts don't make us a dark or bad person...acting on them might? Actually acting on them only means we need up our self confidence and love for ourself, because we hurt ourself just as much as hurt the other person when we act out on our pain.
Nessus is scary but if i can talk about it, I can understand it. That's really all you need to start the healing process of releasing it's ugly side and find it's more positive side.

I use the Nessus energy now instead of it using me.

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