posted January 17, 2015 03:16 PM
Here's what Lotis says about it:'I’ve just started taking more of an interest in The Black Moon Lilith, and here’s the impression that I’ve got so far…
The Black Moon is the apogee of the Moons orbit, the point that is farthest from the earth. While the Moon itself represents something safe and familiar that gives us a feeling of security, the point of orbit for the Moon that is farthest form the earth itself (The Black Moon Lilith) is more like an anti-Moon… And opposite to the Moon in symbolism in many ways… It represents something dark, scary, and unknown but also fascinating.
In terms of image for women, the Moon represents what type of girl feels safe, familiar, nurturing, and vulnerable to a guy… Basically the good girl that he can trust, wants to marry, and protect and take care of… The girl who will (in theory) respect, and look up to him… The Moon supports the Sun and follows his lead… She is the Mother/Wife archetype…. Trusted, known, safe, innocent… (Now if a guy has a challenged Moon, his idea of what feels ‘safe’ and ‘familiar’ about a girl might be messed up… But that’s a whole other thread).
Lilith is the opposite… The women who is unfathomable, dangerous, rebellious and sexual… Here rather then the Wife/Mother (Moon), or even the Beautiful Maiden/Girlfriend (Venus)… You have the mistress, the forbidden lover, the hooker, the ’bad girl’, and the manipulative witchy vixen…. A women who’s unpredictable, mysterious, and probably into something dark or taboo… Like black magic… She might be a scandalous ***** … And yet she has an unattainable kind of allure about her… She’s like a guilty pleasure….
In terms of women’s roles… The Moon is the girl a guy wants to protect, Venus is the fair beauty the he goes wild for, Neptune is ethereal glamour ideal that enchants him… And if the Lilith does say something about a guys taste in women, it probably relates to what type of girl is like a secret guilty pleasure for him… Bewitching but dangerous or unattainable somehow.
If you have Lilith synastry with someone it makes sense that in a way the Lilith person would seem like a dark temptation to the planet person.
When someone aspects your Lilith they 'activate' this side of you, and they can pick up on the energy you're giving off... On the other hand... When you aspect someone else's Lilith you 'activate' this energy for them, so their planet/point may effect you in a Lilith kind of way...
I don't think Lilith always refers to the mistress (but she definitely can), so much as she seems to refer to a women who is darkly attractive but also unattainable... Or even just a women with a creepy, spooky vibe about her... She makes him suspicious, she keeps him on his toes, and he wonders what she's thinking. She's exciting and dosen't reveal all her secrets. And he may find her tempting on an erotic level.
My thoughts are that when a guy has his Lilith aspected in synastry it contributes to him finding her intriguing, and erotically exciting. And that when a women has her Lilith aspected she tends to act out this type of role for him... So regardless of who has their Lilith aspected it would create a similar effect. Unless, of course, the male in the relationship takes on a Lilith role... In which case, he may seem difficult to figure out and yet frustratingly attractive at the same time.'
Here's what I wrote about it:
'I understand Lilith in three stages.
At the TRUE BLACK MOON stage, she's chosen equality over security. This is the myth of Lilith leaving Adam in Eden because he refused to allow her equal partnership. She would not be owned, and so she left. She is ultimately alone; wild and uncivilised. Rumours fly that she's a witch -- a demonic presence. Society has abandoned and ostracised her as a result of her unwillingness to compromise her core values. In some ways, following Jungian typology, she corresponds to the principles of the Id. Without question, any points that activate your TRUE BLACK MOON (within 2º) are going to send you packing, if nothing less than exactly what you desire is offered. You will not compromise. You will not sacrifice your ideals for the sake of harmony. You're fine being off by yourself; let the society be damned.
:: cough :: Frozen :: cough :: 
So our TRUE BLACK MOON is, in a word, uncompromising. She's wild, and flies completely solo. Betrayed, she nurses her wounds away from society and exists outside of its civilisation. She is also our deepest intuition, and most powerful psychic bonds. She's where we commune with Mother Nature herself, and are a daughter of Nyx. We don't much care how it looks on the outside, as we've long since given up living by society's rules.
At the LILITH 1811 stage, she seeks to avenge her lost happiness and place in society. She's individualistic and scheming. She no longer belongs to anyone or anything; the militant feminist, she has neither regret nor true satisfaction. She exists on the outskirts of civilisation, operating tangentially. She longs for companionship, but refuses to be subject to ownership. She is Ego personified. She seeks only to possess those who have already been 'claimed' by another (as 'the dreaded other woman'). She has chosen the mantle of mistress over wife. She does not commune with nature, and her inner voice seems lost in a sea of unfulfilled desires. She is troubled and surviving by her wits in a grey zone between total freedom and complete subjugation. The key phrase I've found most resonant with LILITH 1181 is raw passion and lacking direction or commitment. The emotions are so strong to the point of being overpowering. There is an impulsivity here that drives ego-based decisions. She is noncommittal; lost between reclaiming a place of her own in the natural world, as a wild witch of raw desires, and rejoining the society that, in turn by rejecting it, she, too, was rejected by. She has an innate understanding of the usage of sex for power, and can abuse this, too. She has potent wiles and can use them without compunction.
Where she is present, we can't quite decide which path to take. Past betrayals rise quickly to the surface, and we find ourselves enraged over where it was we were taken advantage of; how we were shamed for our ideals, our sexuality, our natural connexion to dark passions and experience. We carry the greatest sadness and rage in connexion to never finding acceptance in the areas represented. Rather than seeking new avenues, we want revenge. We will manipulate, scheme, and embroil those that represent the ones who abandoned us, in order to get it.
At the MEAN BLACK MOON stage, Lilith has chosen to reintegrate into society. Having lost her inner voice and wild, untamed spirit, has left her feeling empty and saddened. Those she harmed on a violent and ruthless path of revenge weigh too heavy upon her mind and heart. She wants to cut a deal with society; reclaim her powerful essence of raw sexuality and passion, while establishing firm boundaries, and offering a clear understanding that her ideals won't be compromised. She finds ways to make those values and ideals in harmony with society's highest principles, rather than driven by furious emotion or wild passion. She is understanding the principle of the Superego. Again, she demands equality, and offers individuality, and a way to better understand one's dark desires. She no longer is at the mercy of her passions, but is learning to master them. She is also comfortable being entirely upon her own, but will allow those who offer an equal partnership to be companions to her. She will never dedicate herself entirely to one person, unless all of her ideals are championed.
Where the MEAN BLACK MOON is active in our charts, we are prosocial, but free-spirited, independent, and dedicated to ways we can integrate society's demands into our own ideals. We still won't compromise and will prefer solitude over that which would crush our inner spirit or stifle our independence. We can utilise the gifts of the 'good witch' and the practitioner who is an asset to society, harnessing the dark, and intense lunar nature and transforming it into something useful. She becomes a guiding force for many in this mode. Here, we must learn to confront the darkness within ourselves and society at large, acting as a bridge, performing a kind of alchemy. Society finds many things frightening which is natural and understood to Lilith. She acts as a protector and true alchemist, in her most evolved stage.'
So, there's a bit.
Again, Lilith is an EXTREMELY complex energy, in several stages.
Lindaland
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