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Topic: He disappeared on me after a year and a half!! Help me please.
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Whutchsn Newflake Posts: 19 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted January 23, 2015 07:37 AM
My guy and I have been together for a year and a half. I have not heard from him in 2 months. This was a significant relationship. I know he has been going through a rough time period. He got evicted and some other things going on. We are both going through our first Saturn return. I wonder if this has anything to do with it. We have LOTS of Saturn energy both in our natals and synastry. Can someone shed some light for me?? Can someone do an interpretation? Please help. IP: Logged |
Whutchsn Newflake Posts: 19 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted January 23, 2015 11:52 AM
I know I am new here... I'm just beginning my astrology studies, but can anyone offer any insight? IP: Logged |
theunknown Knowflake Posts: 1726 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted January 23, 2015 12:18 PM
his saturn transit is in 11th .... Maybe that's why. IP: Logged |
Peluches Knowflake Posts: 229 From: Vαleŋtiŋe ~ Registered: Jul 2014
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posted January 23, 2015 12:24 PM
... He's a Scorpio.I'm not surprised, tbh. He just needs a break from the relationship. Google the 'Scorpio disappearing act' and read what you can find. There are lots of questions about that, too, on Yahoo for instance or astrology forums. Maybe do a search here too (LindaLand search engine). I'm sorry I can't help more right now bc I have class in a few minutes, but I'll come back later to take a closer look at the synastry and why exactly he disappeared, promise. IP: Logged |
Whutchsn Newflake Posts: 19 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted January 23, 2015 01:05 PM
TheUnknown..., Thanks. You could be right. I didn't think of that. IP: Logged |
Whutchsn Newflake Posts: 19 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted January 23, 2015 01:15 PM
Peluches...Thank you so so much.!! I would really appreciate it. I've never had our charts looked at before. And Yes. I've read that before about the Scorpio disappearing acts. Numerous of times. But for 2 months? It's a power struggle between us with all of my Pluto energy. He always wins though. IP: Logged |
Peluches Knowflake Posts: 229 From: Vαleŋtiŋe ~ Registered: Jul 2014
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posted January 23, 2015 03:27 PM
quote: Originally posted by Whutchsn: Peluches...Thank you so so much.!! I would really appreciate it. I've never had our charts looked at before. And Yes. I've read that before about the Scorpio disappearing acts. Numerous of times. But for 2 months? It's a power struggle between us with all of my Pluto energy. He always wins though.
Yes, I suppose it can go up to two months with Scorpios. Is his birth time correct ? This synastry is not bad really for two people born only a few days apart ! Libra and Scorpio Suns, although not traditionally compatible, get on together as they're 'relationship signs' (H7, H8), and you have a Scorpio ASC, he has Libra energy too, to balance it out. Moons are sextile and Pluto/Moon relationships are really binding -- you've got a DW. The only obstacle here would be the power struggles. His Mars at a 29th degree (karmic degree) and retrograde shows issues with Mars energy on his side and probably clashes with your strong Mars in Aries. Saturn/Mars square natally and in synastry (naturally) with a DW indicates undeniable sexual attraction at the beginning... but Saturn gets fed up with Mars and sometimes starts hating the energy. Almost everything Mars says or does annoys Saturn, makes him angry. I'd say, luckily his Saturn square your Mars is an out of sign aspect and therefore it had less influence than your Saturn square his Mars ; you would resonate more with the Saturn person here. Uranus square Mars both ways is also quite tricky, though it's good for sexual attraction. Uranus/Mars and Saturn/Mars as well as all negative aspects can be overcome with emotional maturity. Sometimes, a certain transit or progression will trigger the aspect, while others can soften it. I would need to know if the birth times are correct to see the significance of these. Also, can you post the composite please ? IP: Logged |
Peluches Knowflake Posts: 229 From: Vαleŋtiŋe ~ Registered: Jul 2014
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posted January 23, 2015 03:49 PM
Could you add the following asteroids in synastry and composite, please ?7066,157,447,1221,3811,6583,1585,390,433,16 And in the 'Additional objects' box, select from Vertex to Vesta. Thanks ! IP: Logged |
Whutchsn Newflake Posts: 19 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted January 23, 2015 05:20 PM
Thank you so much! Yes. I will post the composite and add the asteroids right now. We also both have Venus Square Saturn in our natals and synastry. Mine is an 8 degree orb. His is a tight 1 degree orb. I was hoping the fact that both of us have this aspect makes it easier to deal with. My Moon is trine his Sun- it's a 5 degree orb though. Also his moon is in my 7th house. And our strongest aspect is Sun sextile Saturn. I was hoping all of these would help deal with the strong Saturn energy. And I agree, he does have Mars issues. I feel like he has issues with asserting himself. I am posting the composite now. I really appreciate this. IP: Logged |
Peluches Knowflake Posts: 229 From: Vαleŋtiŋe ~ Registered: Jul 2014
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posted January 23, 2015 05:37 PM
quote: Originally posted by Whutchsn: Thank you so much! Yes. I will post the composite and add the asteroids right now. We also both have Venus Square Saturn in our natals and synastry. Mine is an 8 degree orb. His is a tight 1 degree orb. I was hoping the fact that both of us have this aspect makes it easier to deal with. My Moon is trine his Sun- it's a 5 degree orb though. Also his moon is in my 7th house. And our strongest aspect is Sun sextile Saturn. I was hoping all of these would help deal with the strong Saturn energy. And I agree, he does have Mars issues. I feel like he has issues with asserting himself. I am posting the composite now. I really appreciate this.
Thanks ! I'm assuming his TOB is not correct since you entered 12:00 PM. Have you tried guessing ? Actually yes I do think that having the aspect natally would help. I've seen the overlays, they're very nice, but I was just waiting to get more info before the rest of the interpretation. IP: Logged |
Whutchsn Newflake Posts: 19 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted January 23, 2015 05:43 PM
His TOB is not known. I used 12 noon. I'm confident that his moon is still in Taurus though (I input every hour on his day of birth and still got Taurus) I'm obsessive at times like that. 😁 I'm working on it. Lol!Synastry with Asteroids: Composite: My TOB is accurate.
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Peluches Knowflake Posts: 229 From: Vαleŋtiŋe ~ Registered: Jul 2014
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posted January 23, 2015 05:48 PM
If this is your correct brith time, I can already see that the composite Sun is on your natal ASC, meaning that the relationship affects you a lot. Your Moon and your Sun in the 12th house give you a lot of Piscean energy, which is good because his North Node is in Pisces and shows where he needs to evolve. Your Moon especially is not far from his NN. I even think you can count that as a conjunction. Edit : Oops, took too long to post I hadn't seen the composite yet.
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Whutchsn Newflake Posts: 19 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted January 23, 2015 05:58 PM
You're absolutely correct. This relationship has affected me deeply. Very deeply. I think that might actually be a part of the problem. IP: Logged |
Pretty Theft Knowflake Posts: 81 From: Chicago Registered: Nov 2014
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posted January 23, 2015 08:30 PM
quote: Originally posted by Whutchsn: Peluches...Thank you so so much.!! I would really appreciate it. I've never had our charts looked at before. And Yes. I've read that before about the Scorpio disappearing acts. Numerous of times. But for 2 months? It's a power struggle between us with all of my Pluto energy. He always wins though.
Two months? I don't think you have a boyfriend anymore, to be honest. IP: Logged |
YellowGerbera Knowflake Posts: 246 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted January 23, 2015 08:43 PM
quote: Originally posted by Pretty Theft: Two months? I don't think you have a boyfriend anymore, to be honest.
I've had a scorpio come back like 3-4mo later... it's hard to say.. IP: Logged |
Whutchsn Newflake Posts: 19 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted January 23, 2015 08:57 PM
He is definitely not gone for good. We have a very trusting, honest relationship. He would have at least verbalized he was done before he disappeared. I think there are some issues he is dealing with as a man. And when men are depressed, the majority do not have the capacity to deal with a relationship. IP: Logged |
Peluches Knowflake Posts: 229 From: Vαleŋtiŋe ~ Registered: Jul 2014
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posted January 23, 2015 11:33 PM
Before doing this, I'd like to warn you that it's quite tricky to work with a synastry of two people born just a few days apart. All we can find here is conjunctions, even the Prenatal eclipses are the same. What helps a lot in this case is the TOB ; for instance, we can evaluate Sun/Moon compatibility by comparing the houses like I did above. Your Sun in H12 and Moon in Pisces gives extra Piscean influence, etc. A very helpful and accurate synastry way of doing this precisely is the Huber House chart. Basically, this is a chart calculated according to the ASC, and it works very well. Astro.com has the option under 'Chart drawing style' ; then, use the 'Additional tables' PDF file to get the placements. The column named 'house' will show the sign of the planet, and 'house degree' will show the degree in that sign. For instance, after entering both your details on my account, I got 28 Pisces 03 for your Sun, or 05 Leo 15 for your Moon. Of course, these placements are only valid for the person with the correct TOB -- you. And it helps because you won't get only same planet generational conjunctions in your synastry. Okay, let's start. You have very good house overlays, his Mars in your H5 and his Jupiter in your H8 for sexual attraction, his Moon in your H7 for romance. His Sun and Pluto in your H1 indicate physical attraction. Your relationship rulers are also well aspected. Your R5 is Neptune and you have Neptune/Moon DW. This shows that you are both sensitive people who get on well emotionally. This is good for romance, too. Very sweet. Your H7 and H8 are ruled by Venus, which adds importance to Venus in your chart when it comes to relationships (adding to the fact that Venus is already about relationships). You have a DW Venus/Nessus conjunction. Now Nessus is traditionally associated with abuse, but I see it more as obsession -- especially with Venus -- unless Dejanira (the victim asteroid) is also involved, which is not the case. Venus/Nessus and Pluto/Moon DWs show the intensity of the relationship. Concerning Huber degrees contacts, your Nodal axis is at 11 Leo/Aquarius and is square both your natal Plutos (and composite Pluto naturally) exactly, at 11 Scorpio. Squares to the Nodes and to the Vertex axis show karmic issues in the relationship. Here, I would think this has to do with transformation, obsession, beginnings, endings, secrets or disappearance -- just Scorpio things. Your natal Vertex is square your natal Nodes, indicating rather strong and/or important karma. Your Huber Sun at 28 Pisces is tightly conjunct his natal Mars at 29 Pisces, which is very good for physical attraction on his side. We also know that the composite Mars is not far at 0 Aries and is therefore conjunct your huber Sun. This would show that the relationship brings up Mars energies in you -- anger, passion, etc. And that makes you very much involved in the Mars/Saturn and Mars/Uranus aspects we talked about earlier (keep in mind that they always have the same placements, so your huber Sun is conjunct his (and your) natal Mars, composite Mars ; square his (and your) natal Saturn and Uranus, composite Saturn and Uranus... that's a lot). Your huber Moon is at 5 Leo, opposite both your Pallas asteroids at 3 Aquarius. Synastry-wise, when this occurs, the Pallas person (him) can read the Moon person very well, picks up their emotions and can almost read their mind, as Pallas is the 3rd eye, the pineal gland. This telepathy thing is enhanced by your Neptune/Moon DW and gives a real sense of understanding in the relationship. Your huber Venus is at 18 Aquarius, opposite his love asteroid Valentine at 20 Leo and the composite Valentine at 19 Leo. Wow, this is really sweet ! Valentine is about true, sacrificial love, it's the higher octave of Neptune. Combined with Venus, this shows a very loving relationship. I'll continue this tomorrow. For now, I can clearly see that you were very affected by the relationship (with all those personal contacts to the composite), and you have really binding aspects with him. I'll tell you more tomorrow. IP: Logged |
Whutchsn Newflake Posts: 19 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted January 24, 2015 12:17 AM
Wow! See, I'm only a beginner in astrology so these asteroids you are mentioning are all new to me. Yes, this relationship is very intense. But not in an angry way, just that every emotion is felt on a deep level. I do believe our relationship is karmic. Like changes are happening within the both of us if the relationship lasts or not. I wonder how he sees it. Thank you again for this. I am looking forward to reading the rest. Thanks. IP: Logged |
Whutchsn Newflake Posts: 19 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted January 24, 2015 11:18 PM
Peluches, did you forget me? Lol!IP: Logged |
Whutchsn Newflake Posts: 19 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted January 26, 2015 02:15 PM
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Whutchsn Newflake Posts: 19 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted January 27, 2015 08:50 AM
Would anybody else be willing to look at our synastry?IP: Logged |
lisalisa Knowflake Posts: 988 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted January 27, 2015 09:57 AM
You guys have alot of same placements except moon, and they are compatible, i'm not sure this is good as you both have alike traits and there is not alot of opposition to 'complete' the other, how was your relationship? Was it build on friendship?IP: Logged |
lisalisa Knowflake Posts: 988 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted January 27, 2015 09:59 AM
You are more attracted to him, in sense of long term relationship interest, your ruler (pluto) is opposing his moon and his moon falls in your 7th house of marriage, his 7th however is empty.. IP: Logged |
lisalisa Knowflake Posts: 988 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted January 27, 2015 10:02 AM
On top of that your chart's co-ruler mars is conjunct his mars in your 5th house of romance! His 5th however is empty too.. No personal planets only your jupiter which is rx and doesn't play any significance in his chart..IP: Logged |
lisalisa Knowflake Posts: 988 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted January 27, 2015 10:06 AM
He needs alot of cancerian (his 7th) and taurean (his 5th + his moon) energies from a woman, to complete him.. You don't have planets there He has venus in virgo these men are overly analytical about what and who they love, they basically look for perfection which they will never find.. His romantic houses are not enlighted by your planets, they are empty.. Even your houssytem doesn't resonate with the energies he's looking for in a woman, with his moon in taurus he's stubborn about it and once made up his mind there is no chance he'll change it, i honestly don't think you have the right planets in the right signs to win him back, but you could read into what cancerian and taurean traits are and find these in yourself and enhance them IP: Logged |