posted January 30, 2015 07:02 AM            

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Kites are nice to see in composites because there is a neat structure to the rapport. Even some of our squares convert to a mystic rectangle, so really our only difficult squares come from Uranus to Aqua sun, Mercury, and Venus...

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I agree with that. It is totally different to an isolated square, it gives a very stable formation. Well the Kite is more flying and directed at the planet at its peak of course, while the rectangle is more stable and centred I suppose.

Also I`d recommend a multiple composite between the three of you, too.
And then check what natal planets conjunct/ oppose planets of the multiple composite. Might be interesting to see.

posted January 30, 2015 08:12 AM            

Which multiple composite do you use...ref.point method, midpoint method, center of gravity (and w/ or w/out midpoints)?

posted January 30, 2015 08:14 AM            

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Originally posted by BellaFenice:
Here for the OP! This is pretty cool stuff.

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posted January 30, 2015 08:23 AM            

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Originally posted by Violets:
Yes, my Mercury is at 11, so that's like an orb of only minutes!

And my natal SN is conjunct the Moon in both composites with you and Bella!

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Oh right!!

Actually in your composite with Bella, the moon could go either in Gem or Sag (see how it says "+ opp. house" next to the moon?) so comp moon runs along your nodal axis.

I can't figure out why our comp moon doesn't get that "+opp. house" too, since I'm a Pisces moon like Bella. And Sag is between Virgo and Pisces more than Gemini is, in my mind.

posted January 30, 2015 08:27 AM            

I do think however thre is sense in it.

Well, Pallas is reliable as ever. I had no clue about the transits, but as I said whenever I am getting strange insights from seemingly nowwhere (or crown chakra pounding and streaming) she is usually there.

In this instance the transiting Sun-Mercury-conjunction is conjunct my natal PALLAS by one degree.

posted January 30, 2015 08:47 AM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
Have you looked at Hypnos, Telephus?

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Here we go! Using 2 degree maximum orb:

* My Hypnos at 5 Virgo, conjunct Bella's SN and Violets' moon.

* My Telephus 14 Gemini, conjunct my Mars (does this mean I actively send out psychic signals?)

* My Telephus conjunct Violets' Kaali at 12.59 Gemini (her Kaali conjunct our composite moon.)

* My draconic Hypnos is conjunct my natal sun.

* Violets' Hypnos at 23 Cancer is conjunct our composite Saturn at 21 Cancer and conjunct Bella's Hypnos at 25 Cancer

* Bella's Telephus at 0 Leo is exactly conjunct my Saturn-Urania and opposes our composite Mercury exactly. Her Telephus conjunct my draconic moon.

* Bella's Pallas is exactly conjunct Violets' Pallas at 1 Pisces

* All three of us have natal Pallas in Pisces

* Bella's Kaali at 1 Aries is conjunct:
My draconic Kaali at 2 Aries
Bella's draconic moon at 0 Aries
Pr composite sun Bella/Violets at 1 Aries.

posted January 30, 2015 09:05 AM            

I believe you about Pallas ~ it's transiting at 12 Sag now, conjunct my Neptune...and piggybacks onto that composite kite I have with Violets.

And check out these uncanny transits!

Tr Karma 9 Aqua (conjunct the sun today!)
Tr Telephus 8.29 Scorpio (conjunct my Uranus)
Tr Hypnos 8.20 Pisces (conjunct Violets' sun)
Tr Kaali is at 1 Aries (conjunct Bella's Kaali, my draco Kaali)
Tr Urania 12 Pisces conjunct tr Mars

^ Good time to learn astrology

posted January 30, 2015 09:09 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Anyway I usually pick multicomposite midpoint method.

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Okay, so I did, too:

posted January 30, 2015 09:16 AM            

8H moon, moon's ruler exactly conjunct Mercury
3H Neptune
ASC at critical degree, NN = IC
Urania trine Neptune exact
Pluto sextile Neptune exact (0.03 orb)
1H Pluto opposing Jupiter-Urania (forms t-square with Violets' Cap Mars which is exactly conjunct Bella's Mercury)
Karma & Uranus sorta form a yod with Jupiter-Urania
Mars will be conjunct tr Uranus soon

posted January 30, 2015 09:28 AM            

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Originally posted by Peluches:
('Huber House Chart' under 'Chart drawing style') might be revealing too.

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posted January 30, 2015 09:39 AM            

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Originally posted by Peluches:
In Faith/Bella's composite, 9th and 12th house rulers are both Mercury, giving extra importance here to that planet in spiritual matters.

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Originally posted by Peluches:
Mercury is conjunct the Sun (heart of the relationship) and both are not far from the IC (soul) and in the 4th house indicating you're at ease with each other, which I find very revealing.

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Bella, we got caught liking each other.

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Originally posted by Peluches:
Furthermore, composite Mercury/Sun is the apex of a T-Square involving Pluto which would bring intensity to this, and Urania in the telepathy theme. The T-Square is turned into a Grand Cross by adding the blue person's natal Urania/Saturn at 0° Leo approximately, in the natal 12th house.

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You are so observant. Thank you for noticing this.

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Originally posted by Peluches:
Going back to the composite, Neptune is opening the 3rd house being on the cusp, indicating the way you would relate to one another eventually ; it's also the ruler of the 6th house (6th/12th again), a house 'opened' by Psyche which is exactly square Neptune, too.

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Amazing. I never thought of planets "opening" houses before but I will definitely be adopting (copycatting) your viewpoint and lingo.

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Originally posted by Peluches:
All three also seem to have a common connection at 20°-24° of the Cardinal signs in the composites. Perhaps that's the 'telepathy degree' here, emphasized with fixed stars Spica and Arcturus at 23° and 24° Libra respectively ?

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I'm blown away that you saw that, and thank you for listing the points and degrees so clearly. You practically predicted some major aspects of the multi-composite.

posted January 30, 2015 12:46 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
I must be doing it wrong ~ this just gives me the natal chart in a different pictorial style.

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Oops, I went a bit fast on this, sorry !

posted January 30, 2015 01:01 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Thanks for all your insights, Peluches.

I'm blown away that you saw that, and thank you for listing the points and degrees so clearly. You practically predicted some major aspects of the multi-composite.

Now I'm all curious about your chart ~ have you posted it anywhere?

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posted January 30, 2015 01:39 PM            

Thank you for explaining to me how to get the House Chart data. My TOB is not rock solid but just for fun~

We have Pluto at 12 Pisces in the House multicomposite. Taurus Neptune trine Virgo Jupiter exact at 15 degrees, forming a grand earth trine with my natal sun.

My House sun 2 Virgo conjunct Bella's SN, Violets' moon. My House Neptune is conjunct my Saturn-Urania exact.

Bella's House Mercury 22 Aries, House Pluto 25 Cap fits in with those cardinal configurations we see. Along with Violets' House moon at 25 Aries, House sun 26 Libra, House Neptune 26 Cancer, House node 22 Cancer. My House Venus 26 Cancer.

My House Saturn 19 Pisces, conjunct my natal moon.

posted January 31, 2015 07:53 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Nothing too amazing at first glance. Besides the love stellium in Aquarius.

8H moon, moon's ruler exactly conjunct Mercury
3H Neptune
ASC at critical degree, NN = IC
Urania trine Neptune exact
Pluto sextile Neptune exact (0.03 orb)
1H Pluto opposing Jupiter-Urania (forms t-square with Violets' Cap Mars which is exactly conjunct Bella's Mercury)
Karma & Uranus sorta form a yod with Jupiter-Urania
Mars will be conjunct tr Uranus soon

Peluches, you were spot-on about these cardinal degrees!

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Thank you, Faith !

I'm starting to look deeper into your charts and I've found amazing connections ! I would need the degrees for greater precision... Could you post a screen of the PDFs please ? (You can post the Huber directly, too ; both natal and huber will appear.)

Also, concerning the 'opened' houses -- it's fine lol, you can use this method Just remember to use very tight orbs (not more than 2 degrees, unless you've found something important following a particular theme).

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Originally posted by Faith :
I cannot believe you are that young. So smart for your age! Though I have to say, everyone I meet from that age range is quite exceptional, including my son.

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I get lucky now and then

On a more serious note, I too have noticed something about people my age. The reason behind this may be Pluto. This generation of Pluto in Sag is and will grow to be very philosophical and rebellious, not particularly violent, but just... original. Don't get me wrong, all Plutos are just as amazing as one another in my opinion, but for those of us Sag Plutos who don't talk much (we're dreamers too) or are in a particularly rebellious phase of adolescence, we may just grow and evolve on our own, with our own opinions and beliefs about life in general. Constantly questioning the actual world, the law, everything.

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I'm gonna stop here because I'm derailing your thread.

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Thank you for explaining to me how to get the House Chart data. My TOB is not rock solid but just for fun~

We have Pluto at 12 Pisces in the House multicomposite. Taurus Neptune trine Virgo Jupiter exact at 15 degrees, forming a grand earth trine with my natal sun.

My House sun 2 Virgo conjunct Bella's SN, Violets' moon. My House Neptune is conjunct my Saturn-Urania exact.

Bella's House Mercury 22 Aries, House Pluto 25 Cap fits in with those cardinal configurations we see. Along with Violets' House moon at 25 Aries, House sun 26 Libra, House Neptune 26 Cancer, House node 22 Cancer. My House Venus 26 Cancer.

My House Saturn 19 Pisces, conjunct my natal moon.

Not sure if I will ever feel like piecing this whole picture together...we'll see

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posted January 31, 2015 12:19 PM            

@Peluches ~

Thanks for your comment. I will post the Huber PDF later, though there is a limit to the precision since my birth time hasn't been confirmed by a birth certificate. Might not be worth spending much time on.

Need to spend some time looking more closely at your chart as well.

I agree with you about Sag Pluto ~ I see this:

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we may just grow and evolve on our own, with our own opinions and beliefs about life in general. Constantly questioning the actual world, the law, everything.

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It's actually very easy for me to see where you are coming from, as you remind me a lot of my son, and I'm not straining to make comparisons, but he is very much absorbed with religious and philosophical quandaries as well...half the time when he opens a conversation with me, it's about God, religion, feuding religious sects, etc. He has a Sag sun widely conjunct Pluto in the 8th house with Scorpio Mercury. (One day he told me he's a deep thinker. "I know," I said. "No I am really a deep thinker," he repeated. "I KNOW!" I said. )

posted January 31, 2015 04:16 PM            

What we could do about the Huber degrees is see how exactly they are calculated and from that, get the exact range of possible degrees for your placements. I'll look this up for you and let you know.

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One day he told me (...) "I KNOW!" I said.

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This is literally the same conversation I had with one my profs once ! Now that you mention my chart, I noticed I had a Scorpio Mercury too (probably explains my quiet nature) that had progressed into Sagittarius recently, and a progressed Scorpio Sun. This SCO/SAG combination does make a lot of sense here.

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But I see (...) blindness.

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posted January 31, 2015 05:16 PM            

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Well you are a deep thinker, that's an understatement. Are you already in college?

posted January 31, 2015 05:53 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith :

Well you are a deep thinker, that's an understatement. Are you already in college?

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Not yet
I am homeschooled in the French educational system and hopefully will be taking my Baccalauréat degree next year, but right now I'm focusing more on my piano studies. In English I might have passed 3 or 4 IGCSEs (can't remember, sorry) but I took the easy ones... One of them was French as a foreign language

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Thanks for being willing to look at the Huber Chart, I hope to get that up later tonight.

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posted January 31, 2015 06:36 PM            

Oh yes Cute oxymoron!

I'm American despite my rants, and despite the fact that I attended an English University for a semester, I still don't know what IGCSEs are.

Is homeschooling pretty common in France? Were you homeschooled because your teachers couldn't keep up with you? =) Looking at your chart ~ I guess Mars trine Jupiter exact helps a little? Gemini MC with Mercury in the 3H, sextile your Virgo ASC...wow, that is just perfect for communication (including piano, I would think!)...so that explains a lot!

I see you have a lot of planets at 0 degrees, very peculiar. Does that feel stressful? And I love your moon-Neptune conjunction. Your Mars-moon-Neptune MP is conjunct my sun.

posted January 31, 2015 07:06 PM            

So:

Sun- 8.06 Leo (domicile )
Moon- 13.06 Scorpio
Mercury- 28.21 Cancer
Venus- 28.53 Cancer
Mars- 20.04 Libra
Jupiter- 25.32 Libra
Saturn- 15.44 Pisces
Uranus- 27.22 Taurus
Neptune- 23.23 Gemini
Pluto- 24.44 Aries
NN- 0.55 Cancer

I like that Gemini Neptune!

I forgot to include these on the chart, but I'm being careful: