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Aquacheeka
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posted January 30, 2015 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any long-term couples or marriages here that have opposing moon signs?

Just wondering, it's the only real point of concern in the otherwise awesome synastry I have with a new guy I just started seeing.

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posted January 30, 2015 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blind writer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Depends on the signs, and the rest of the synastry, but in general, it's just enough spice and attraction to keep things interesting. I don't consider it a "bad" aspect to have. Cardinal and mutable pairs work best. Fixed signs may have too much rigidity and friction.

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posted January 30, 2015 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In this case, it is Pisces and Virgo. Pisces is supersensitive, I wonder if a Virgo moon would be too harsh for me.

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posted January 30, 2015 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lisalisa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love oppositions in synastry, the other person could complete the other, opposite signs are complementary, in relationship i want everything but a man who acts like me.. it's too much, in relationship you want someone who complete's you. Virgo and pisces is water and earth, those go well together, do you know the house overlays? I find that the house a planet is in takes over some of the characteristics, so the pisces moon could be in the 6th of virgo and the virgo moon in a water house etc etc, would make it more compatible, also any trines to the moon like sun or venus could ease any tension

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posted January 30, 2015 07:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Imo feminine planets in opposition to masculine planets work out well. But two feminine planets in opposition can lead to a lot of bickering and catty behaviour.

The only oppositions I like - that involve Moon2Moon or Venus2Venus are: Aries/Libra and Taurus/Scorpio. They are attractive because of the Venus Mars undertones.
The worst oppositions I've seen for Moon and Venus are: Virgo/Pisces and Capricorn/Cancer. There is little common ground with these pairs.

But if you have a Moon/Mercury aspect - or if he has a Moon/Neptune aspect - that could make things easier. If the rest of the synastry is extra positive, you might be able to compromise.
How long have you known each other? Does he like your esoteric interests, like astrology - or is he critical? Does he ever nag you?

You have to figure out if his Virgo traits are too annoying for you. A Virgo Moon man won't leave a Pisces Moon woman, because for the most part he won't even notice there is a problem. So if someone ends things it will likely be you.

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posted January 30, 2015 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^^ second this. Sun-moon is much more common in marriage. It's yin and yang

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posted January 30, 2015 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moving to Interpersonal Astrology.

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posted January 30, 2015 09:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BellaFenice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
YES!

My parents are Virgo (dad)- Pisces (mom)

What would you like to know?

They both have a decent amount of water in their charts, so this sort of balances things out. They get along really well most of the time, and that is probably why they have been married for 25 years of happiness. Once in a blue moon they will get into an argument with my dad being 'too critical' and my mom 'too sensitive" lol. But really, they have a great marriage and is something I would hope for in a partnership myself. But they have good house overlays as well, so that probably influences things.

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posted January 30, 2015 09:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My close friend is a Cap Moon exactly oppose my cancer Moon. It is great for a friendship and/or a partnership because there is a very different approach to life but I would not want it in a long term partner.

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posted January 31, 2015 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Odette:
Imo feminine planets in opposition to masculine planets work out well. But two feminine planets in opposition can lead to a lot of bickering and catty behaviour.

The only oppositions I like - that involve Moon2Moon or Venus2Venus are: Aries/Libra and Taurus/Scorpio. They are attractive because of the Venus Mars undertones.
The worst oppositions I've seen for Moon and Venus are: Virgo/Pisces and Capricorn/Cancer. There is little common ground with these pairs.

But if you have a Moon/Mercury aspect - or if he has a Moon/Neptune aspect - that could make things easier. If the rest of the synastry is extra positive, you might be able to compromise.
How long have you known each other? Does he like your esoteric interests, like astrology - or is he critical? Does he ever nag you?

You have to figure out if his Virgo traits are too annoying for you. A Virgo Moon man won't leave a Pisces Moon woman, because for the most part he won't even notice there is a problem. So if someone ends things it will likely be you.



My best friend is actually a Virgo moon. For whatever reason I tend to attract mutable moons into my life more consistently than any other placement or energy. We only just met but we get along very well so far and there was an instinct "click." Our synastry is mostly very good; we have sun trine Venus, Jupiter and Mercury, his Venus conjuncts my Mars, my moon sextiles his Mars, our sun signs are compatible (he's a Libra), we have moon closely trine Saturn and a wide conjunction of my Saturn to his Venus (6.86 orb). I'm tempted to pursue it for no reason other than that I've never gotten to experience the legendary and delicious Mars/Venus combustion for myself. However, I doubt I would be the one to leave him; I'm actually gravely concerned about the staying power of a man with Venus in Sagittarius. He also has a very wide Venus/Uranus conjunction (it's 9.23 degrees). I feel that if anyone gets itchy feet, it's probably going to be Mr. Mutable Venus.

We also have a 4-degree square between my moon and his Uranus. It seems like the biggest problem with our synastry is in fact the moon. Our closest aspect is my Mercury in an exact sextile to his Neptune.

Overall, I don't know him well enough to say how things will turn out or whether he is the overly-fussy sort. He does have his Virgo moon in a close sextile to Saturn to make things a bit worse. He has the Libran charm but I definitely see the Sagittarius in him - he's a nomad who has lived in Indonesia and did some volunteer work in Africa, has lived in various parts of Canada, and he loves to travel. He picked my city to settle down in during his Saturn Return. I haven't felt anything lunar or Virgo with him yet which I guess makes sense if we just met. He does have his sun in a 0-degree sextile with Neptune so maybe that would help to soften his rough Virgo edges a little bit. What do you think, Odette? Do you think the sun with Neptune can override the moon sign?

I would love to marry a fellow Pisces moon but I can't seem to find one.

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posted January 31, 2015 11:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami, one interesting thing I thought you would like because I know you've written on this combustion before; he has Mercury conjunct Sun, as do I. Every single one of my long-term exes has had this combustion. Is it it just motormouths being attracted to each other? Haha! Who knows.

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posted January 31, 2015 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it might depend on who has what moon, a male earth moon opposed a female water moon is probably going to be ok.

Im female with a virgo moon and I like pisces moons at first but eventually I feel like I'm the masculine energy and it gets on my nerves. It's like why are they always leaving me to handle the tough stuff and they sit back and cry about it? Not fun at all!!

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posted January 31, 2015 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I think it might depend on who has what moon, a male earth moon opposed a female water moon is probably going to be ok.

Im female with a virgo moon and I like pisces moons at first but eventually I feel like I'm the masculine energy and it gets on my nerves. It's like why are they always leaving me to handle the tough stuff and they sit back and cry about it? Not fun at all!!



BAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! That was a very salient demonstration of your point, thanks for that. Very funny. And yes I think I agree, I think gender probably matters, at least if a female is emotional people are moreso comfortable with and expecting that.

I actually had a similar problem with a Cancer moon, I felt like I had to do all the work and pursuing and I hated it, I didn't feel feminine at all. Had to shut that one down pretty quickly which is a shame because I wouldn't mind dating someone with a compatible moon element.

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posted January 31, 2015 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:

My best friend is actually a Virgo moon. For whatever reason I tend to attract mutable moons into my life more consistently than any other placement or energy. We only just met but we get along very well so far and there was an instinct "click." Our synastry is mostly very good; we have sun trine Venus, Jupiter and Mercury, his Venus conjuncts my Mars, my moon sextiles his Mars, our sun signs are compatible (he's a Libra), we have moon closely trine Saturn and a wide conjunction of my Saturn to his Venus (6.86 orb). I'm tempted to pursue it for no reason other than that I've never gotten to experience the legendary and delicious Mars/Venus combustion for myself. However, I doubt I would be the one to leave him; I'm actually gravely concerned about the staying power of a man with Venus in Sagittarius. He also has a very wide Venus/Uranus conjunction (it's 9.23 degrees). I feel that if anyone gets itchy feet, it's probably going to be Mr. Mutable Venus.

We also have a 4-degree square between my moon and his Uranus. It seems like the biggest problem with our synastry is in fact the moon. Our closest aspect is my Mercury in an exact sextile to his Neptune.

Overall, I don't know him well enough to say how things will turn out or whether he is the overly-fussy sort. He does have his Virgo moon in a close sextile to Saturn to make things a bit worse. He has the Libran charm but I definitely see the Sagittarius in him - he's a nomad who has lived in Indonesia and did some volunteer work in Africa, has lived in various parts of Canada, and he loves to travel. He picked my city to settle down in during his Saturn Return. I haven't felt anything lunar or Virgo with him yet which I guess makes sense if we just met. He does have his sun in a 0-degree sextile with Neptune so maybe that would help to soften his rough Virgo edges a little bit. What do you think, Odette? Do you think the sun with Neptune can override the moon sign?

I would love to marry a fellow Pisces moon but I can't seem to find one.


you seem to be afraid of his virgo side, but with so much neptunian influence in his chart really, a virgo moon is a blessing. if you are afraid of the sagitarian venus,then the moon in virgo is helpful as well. i am not fond of virgo mooners, but in this case, i believe is for your own good if you are thinking in something long term...

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posted January 31, 2015 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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BAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! That was a very salient demonstration of your point, thanks for that. Very funny. And yes I think I agree, I think gender probably matters, at least if a female is emotional people are moreso comfortable with and expecting that.

I actually had a similar problem with a Cancer moon, I felt like I had to do all the work and pursuing and I hated it, I didn't feel feminine at all. Had to shut that one down pretty quickly which is a shame because I wouldn't mind dating someone with a compatible moon element.


Ya, I have to shut down relationships when I feel like the guy in the relationship. With Pluto on my AC I can be kind of overwhelming at times....I have to shut that side of myself down and allow others to lead. I like to find guys who naturally take the lead, pisces moon don't usually do that unless other aspects make them more assertive. Cancers moons have a similar energy as pisces, scorpios don't seem to have that same energy though.
Maybe it's the Pluto moon that gives them a more assertive emotional energy?

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posted January 31, 2015 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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you seem to be afraid of his virgo side, but with so much neptunian influence in his chart really, a virgo moon is a blessing. if you are afraid of the sagitarian venus,then the moon in virgo is helpful as well. i am not fond of virgo mooners, but in this case, i believe is for your own good if you are thinking in something long term...


I like that his moon is an earth element but I just have had very bad experiences with moon signs that squared my own so I'm afraid of how the opposition will play out. I think it's potentially less brutal than the square. My last ex and I had moon square moon and a Mars-Saturn conjunction with him being Saturn and he was very critical and verbally abusive towards me. I am very wary of getting into another relationship where I will be criticized all the time as it did nothing for my self-esteem. However, I don't mind a little fussing over me. I just don't know how the Virgo energy manifests. It's the uncertainty that makes me nervous. At least with the Sag Venus I know what to expect, which is, nothin' good!

Neptune to me is a good thing. Being a Pisces moon I am really clingy and musical and get very attached to people. So I want a man who is the same.

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posted January 31, 2015 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ya, I have to shut down relationships when I feel like the guy in the relationship. With Pluto on my AC I can be kind of overwhelming at times....I have to shut that side of myself down and allow others to lead. I like to find guys who naturally take the lead, pisces moon don't usually do that unless other aspects make them more assertive. Cancers moons have a similar energy as pisces, scorpios don't seem to have that same energy though.
Maybe it's the Pluto moon that gives them a more assertive emotional energy?

It doesn't surprise me that Plutonian/Scorpio moons are stronger in nature. I read a Vedic theory online that if the man's moon is a greater distance to the woman's moon than the woman has to "travel" to get to the man's moon, she will be like the man in the relationship and have to do the work. If that's the case it would explain why I've never once been able to get a relationship off the ground with any guy whose moon is anywhere from Aries - Leo.

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posted January 31, 2015 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
My close friend is a Cap Moon exactly oppose my cancer Moon. It is great for a friendship and/or a partnership because there is a very different approach to life but I would not want it in a long term partner.

completely agree. i would never want an opposite moon partner. in all the longitudinal studies that have been done on marriage this aspect is never even near the top. it might attract - initially the differences are interesting - but over the long-term, no way. any of the other signs could oppose, but not my moon.

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posted January 31, 2015 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I once heard, I can't remember where that the opposite moon sign can contain the shadow side of the other.
So my Gemini moon showing the shadow side of sag.
Idk.... just something that I heard. Personally my moon is in 9th so it's in sag natural house anyway.

But something that came to mind is other aspects.
Example, if a moon is opposite mine it COULD be conjunct my Neptune. (My moon is not opposite Neptune though - too wide)
It could create squares to stuff, or trines, etc.
One thing that I have experienced in opposition is that it can cause strong attraction and even though you are so different, you can still understand the other and help each other to grow.

Opposite moons in mutable may be easier than fixed also, imo, for example.
Things of that nature.

Just some things that I thought of as possible game changers.

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posted February 01, 2015 12:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Odette:
Imo feminine planets in opposition to masculine planets work out well. But two feminine planets in opposition can lead to a lot of bickering and catty behaviour.

The only oppositions I like - that involve Moon2Moon or Venus2Venus are: Aries/Libra and Taurus/Scorpio. They are attractive because of the Venus Mars undertones.
The worst oppositions I've seen for Moon and Venus are: Virgo/Pisces and Capricorn/Cancer. There is little common ground with these pairs.

But if you have a Moon/Mercury aspect - or if he has a Moon/Neptune aspect - that could make things easier. If the rest of the synastry is extra positive, you might be able to compromise.
How long have you known each other? Does he like your esoteric interests, like astrology - or is he critical? Does he ever nag you?

You have to figure out if his Virgo traits are too annoying for you. A Virgo Moon man won't leave a Pisces Moon woman, because for the most part he won't even notice there is a problem. So if someone ends things it will likely be you.


Odette this is great to hear ! I'm currently with someone who has a libra moon in the 1st house opposing my moon in aries in the 7th house within 5 degree orb. we also have sun moon conjunction in the 7th house, and have moon conjunct the 7th house, and my vertex in arid sin the 7th house conjuncts there 7th house in aries etc. I' m so glad to hear that this opposition is positive for aries/libra =DDD!!

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