posted February 13, 2015 02:54 AM            

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posted February 13, 2015 03:19 AM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Incidentally, the Twinflame Astrology thread was mine. so if you have any specific questions, I'd be happy to answer what I know.

Here's the link for the thread:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/224895.html

Keep an eye out for a new thread featuring the difficulties of assessing Twin Flames with astrology. I'm developing it now.

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posted February 13, 2015 04:20 AM            

For quite some time, I was labouring under a complex delusion that a very important karmic soulmate was actually my twin flame. Then I came to discover another man to truly be. I've since come to ditch all labels, and live and love free of them. The man who is a powerful karmic soulmate will always feel 'twinnish' to me in certain regards. We'll always have that kinship and sense of soul siblinghood, even if we've both 'moved on' in some ways. It's been a complicated journey.

There's no doubt in my mind now that all of the signs, symbolism, and 'twin flame' style synchronicities were indeed leading me to do the work I needed to, so that I could be where I am -- and with whom I am -- now. We kind of 'prepped' each other for certain things; for me, this relationship. For him, probable future spiritual growth. But we'll see. That may take awhile.

Everyone has their own take on the karma debate. It's been my personal experience that he and I don't have the sort of urgency in whatever karma we may have together that is shared with others (namely, me). To that end, I feel it's been more important THAT gets resolved overall. Regarding what we DO have, I'd say the work we did together oddly clarified many things my soul was aching over. And so certain mysteries and older betrayals feel resolved.

Nonetheless, we're here to help gather together a certain group of souls, learn specific lessons, and share the greater story of that knowledge through our art, creating a works that will do it all justice. It'll happen one day.

Oddly, this is not unlike what I'm doing with the man whom has been called my twin flame. The difference is that he was willing to begin undertaking the hard work of deep healing, in order to become the man he most wishes to be, so that he could love me the way we both wanted. He dedicated himself to trying, and despite the volatility and unpredictable nature of our relationship, the love is such a beautifully kind, curiously calm and genuinely good-natured, unconditional love, that being dedicated to trying has actually been sufficient.

The man I refer to here as my karmic soulmate never truly tried. For many reasons. But it broke my heart horribly. Though it's through that destruction that I built myself stronger -- and finally strong enough to be able to love the man who's been called my twin. There is a kind of synergy amongst the three of us in this way; a kind of unconscious healing energy that gets experienced indirectly through this karmic soulmate, but directly with my boyfriend. Tough to articulate; forgive me.

As to the experience, I've had telepathy with him the likes of which are not only flabbergasting, but remain at the level of unbelievable in terms of accuracy. Even now, though I've come to experience this more commonly in recent years. It's as if we'd read each other's thoughts and then answer them unbidden. Very cool. The way we wrote together was frequently referred to as 'sharing a mind'. We often would have the same idea, or begin or complete the same sort of scene exactly as the other did or intended to. We did that for the better part of 7 years.

We looked alike as children, and developed the same quirky physical traits, such as being born blonde and going brunette, with dark eyes that lightened slightly and acquired a dark outer rim. Something which gets me the most is both having a tooth which grew in behind another tooth. Same tooth. Though, I had braces, and he didn't. His remains hidden, whereas mine was brought to the fore. His face has the same strange little 'defects' mine does; deep set eyes, one slightly larger, with thicker eyelids and divots between them over the nose bridge. Same mouth shape. Things like that. We look alike.

Another thing which always gets me. We both have an odd ability to mimic those with whom we're speaking. We're only ever REALLY 'ourselves' with each other, since we're each mirroring the other, and are essentially similar. I never realised the same goes for my boyfriend, but discovered that earlier this year.

What will remain with me forever, however, is seeing his face superimpose onto mine if I look in the mirror without my glasses. It happened without warning. I'll see his smile in my own all the time. But THAT? I wasn't prepared for it. It took a LONG time to process. I've come to accept it as part and parcel of a deep soul connexion. Part of the package. The journey.

Dreams. So many dreams, meditations, trance states .... We used to regularly 'hang out' in each other' dreams. And he saw my going to Los Angeles years before I even had the opportunity come up. It's clear we were working together, too.

My husband once described him as 'you, just the male version' and anytime I wanted to know how to handle a situation, to just 'do what I'd want someone to do when dealing with me'. But that was almost TOO effective, as we were easily able to become each other's total confidante and best friend. As he used to say, 'you know me better than anyone; better than I know myself.' As well as actually considering, and calling me, his soulmate. Which, while he may've meant what we call twins, it's funny that it's true. As he IS undoubtedly a deep soulmate.

Let's see ... I'd get the 11:11, and the 12:34 thing ... our relationship intensified dramatically in 2012, from January through December. Man. We hurt each other so much ...

The intensity, overall, is what did it. He couldn't REALLY handle it, and was convinced he'd lose me. He couldn't deal with that -- not even the potential. So, instead of taking a real chance, he folded, and I distanced. Then, one day, it was just ... not the same. It just felt ... over.

Most unusual thing was how, once in each other's presence, in January 2012, we lost track of our present timeline. My boyfriend and I actually experience stopped time together. With my soulmate, we'd both had the simultaneous experience of seeing each other again the following day, even as my husband and I were only driving through, and would be leaving in less than an hour. Yet, we both had this moment in which we were going to see each other for lunch at the same restaurant. It was as firm as the knowledge that I'd be back in LA in six hours. So very strange. I've come to understand it as becoming multidimensional. He can't accept that, and it's tough to see it. Nonetheless, that's what all of it has done.

I met my boyfriend in 2010, but, oddly, my soulmate and I met for the first time in person just a bit over a month later! Crazy. So, there's a lot of overlap, as it's difficult to distinguish 'this is because of him' or 'that's due to him'.

I see it all as being because of MY overall journey, which is inextricably linked with my boyfriend's, literally across time. No matter what he is, that will always remain true.

posted February 13, 2015 04:51 AM            

I definitely see a lot of the angelic numbers and always have, but interestingly since I met him I have seen 12:34, 1:23, etc, very very frequently so that is interesting you brought that one up!
He also reminds me so much of a male version of myself. We think very much the same, a lot of similar mannerisms and behaviors. However we do not look all too similar at first glance, and have very different upbringings, but with many parallels (parents working same occupations, etc).

It feels like we have unspoken unconditional love for each other, but it's very overwhelming, I feel like he could crush me at a moments notice and my world would collapse. I'm glad the initial fever has gone away as it's been a couple years now, i've settled into the initial shock from the encounter, so it is not as confusing with the crazy, hallucination inducing attraction anymore, but I can say with certainty that my life will never be the same.

posted February 13, 2015 05:04 AM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Regarding what we DO have, I'd say the work we did together oddly clarified many things my soul was aching over. And so certain mysteries and older betrayals feel resolved.

Nonetheless, we're here to gather together a certain group of souls, learn specific lessons, and share the greater story of that knowledge through our art, creating a works that will do it all justice. It'll happen one day.

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This is particularly how I feel about our karma as well. I figured in our case it were the pluto and chiron aspects were what were contributing to the transformative and healing experiences. Particularly what i've read on pluto and mercury in synastry resonated with my own situation. I feel like I had a lot of emotional baggage that has been resolved from previous traumas.

We worked together in the scientific industry but I worry the internet is a small world to go into too much detail. I do feel our shared experiences have been productive in what we have shared and learned together. I hope to continue to inspire and be inspired by him.

posted February 13, 2015 06:22 AM            

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Originally posted by arcturiann:
This is particularly how I feel about our karma as well. I figured in our case it were the pluto and chiron aspects were what were contributing to the transformative and healing experiences. Particularly what i've read on pluto and mercury in synastry resonated with my own situation. I feel like I had a lot of emotional baggage that has been resolved from previous traumas.

We worked together in the scientific industry but I worry the internet is a small world to go into too much detail. I do feel our shared experiences have been productive in what we have shared and learned together. I hope to continue to inspire and be inspired by him.

Thank you for sharing your experience... I feel it has resonated a lot with me. It also feels good to read on others experiences to remind myself I am not alone in what a crazy and transformative experience it is to meet them.

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No worries. I could tell that from your usage of the word 'discrete'. Only a scientist would use that word this way.

Soulmates are a powerful bond, undeniably. I would agree that your MARS-CHIRON conjunction is indicative of that, as well as some painful karma.

Oddly, my most 'Twin Flame' relationship isn't even with my Twin, but a very special soulmate I call my Guardian Soulmate. The astrological signature of that is still being determined, but I wouldn't doubt if that's akin to what you're experiencing. I've notived some elements of your synastry that would hint at this type of special, lifetime relationship.

posted February 13, 2015 02:01 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Y'know, the more I'm looking at your charts, arcturiann, the more I'm thinking it's either a difficult soulmate relationship (karmically-speaking) or, potentially, a Guardian soulmate bond, as I'd described earlier.

What strikes me most of all is how you're born one day off of my husband. He and I have a synastric ISIS-OSIRIS conjunction, too, which really ignites his natal conjunction. His seems to be an indicator of the extremely karmic marriage, between companion soulmates, that he and I share.

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A Guardian soulmate bond does sound very appropriate for us , it turns into a "difficult soulmate relationship" when we try to turn it into a romantic relationship.

I don't think I have been able to identify any of these traditional asteroids that are supposed to be conjunct, which is why I have expressed doubt over their efficacy. Although when I put in all the different asteroids I tend to get overwhelmed. Lots of things conjunct, but not the ones that i'm supposed to be looking for.

posted February 13, 2015 09:59 PM            

He's the 14th. His MOON is literally 12° ahead of yours. You're total astro-twins.

As to NODES being direct, I'm almost amused by how 'rare' it is, because we ALL have the NODES direct. My husband, my Twin, my Guardian, my parents, my stepdaughter ...

We're apparently all not coming back.

posted February 14, 2015 01:41 AM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Arcturiann,

He's the 14th. His MOON is literally 12° ahead of yours. You're total astro-twins.

As to NODES being direct, I'm almost amused by how 'rare' it is, because we ALL have the NODES direct. My husband, my Twin, my Guardian, my parents, my stepdaughter ...

We're apparently all not coming back.

Don't worry about the asteroids. It IS overwhelming. Go slow. I'll bring over the link to the threads I've started on Guardian Soulmates. It took mine and I nearly 4 years to truly be able to be together. We worked for it. Hard. Clearing karma took almost an entire 7 months. Oh, THAT was rough ...

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That is definitely something with the nodes. I have met only a couple people with NN direct. Interesting you mention "not coming back". It's a concept i've heard about before in searching for direct NN interpretations, that people say it may be an indication that you are here for your last lifetime, and thus will be doing a kind of final resolution of karma.

I've had a mystic tell me that if it is your final incarnation here that pretty much every relationship (friendship, love or otherwise) will be karmic in nature. This has definitely felt true for me thus far.

posted February 14, 2015 06:12 AM            

A short opinion of mine on how a TF synastry looks like as the 3rd post in this thread:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/001422.html

posted February 14, 2015 02:38 PM            

I'd like to see the synastry.

The composite seems like Soulmates (ISIS conjunct OSIRIS) destined for a fated relationship (VERTEX-JUNO) which is likely to be more nurturing than romantic (MOON-ALMA). It could even be a deep friendship.

posted February 14, 2015 06:06 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Hi, I think there are definitely TFs in this world and TF synastries would look very much like the Yin/Yang symbol: similarity + complementarity + blending.

A short opinion of mine on how a TF synastry looks like as the 3rd post in this thread:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/001422.html

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Thanks LeeLoo. I've been wondering what the consensus is on planetary aspects involved in TF relationships, since there is a lot of talk on asteroids, I feel the general placements are overlooked, or have become hard to find on here

I'll finally share mine. There's a lot of negativity in that posting though. My biggest issue is with the verification of twin flames, how it seems like some people have exclusive right to make these judgements or claim to be twins, while others don't and this being based off of some strangers interpretation.

My opinion is that people can claim whatever they want, and that it is ultimately up to whoever is doing the data mining to decide whether to use their placements as part of their statistical analysis using their own (hopefully reasonable) judgement. It is such a new field that it would be ignorant for anyone to claim that they have some special recipe of asteroids or configurations that would be able to determine something so controversial as whether or not two people are twin flames with such certainty, especially when we don't know these individuals in person and are just looking at them like a bunch of data plots on a circular graph.

That being said, I like what you mentioned about yin and yang, mirroring, balancing, similarities and complements, as this takes also takes into account the natal charts of the individuals. I feel like twin flames will have some sort of energetic signature or "theme" that may be more unique to them and relevant towards each others unique natal placements. here are what I think might be useful or contribute towards anything from our own synastry. I wanted to go through and list orbs, at least for the ones under 1 deg but i'm too lazy right now.

I feel like if I were to include asteroids, midpoints, or wider orbs it would become an absolute clusterf**k, so I just tried to include what I feel like is relevant to us and the aspects and placements that became eye openers throughout the experience.

Synastry DW:
Pluto - Venus (trines)
Pluto - Mercury (trine, square)
Neptune - Venus (oppositions)
Mars - Saturn (sextiles)
Mars - Mercury (square)

Non DW Aspects:
Uranus opposite Venus - (His to mine)
Uranus opposite Mars - (Mine to his)

North Node conjunct Asc (0 01s) - (His to mine)
North Node conjunct Uranus - (His to mine)
South Node conjunct Sun - (His to mine)
North Node conjunct Jupiter - (Mine to his)

Chiron conjunct Mars - (His to mine)
Chiron conjunct Mercury - (Mine to his)

Sun conjunct Venus - (His to mine, with mine in the same sign as his)
Moon conjunct Lilith - (His to mine)

Somewhat interesting minor aspects (under 1 deg):
Moon quintile Moon
Sun quincunx Neptune (Mine to his)
Saturn quincunx Saturn

House overlays:
Sun in 6th - (His in mine)
Sun in 12th - (Mine in his)
Saturn in 6th - (Mine in his, His in mine)

Mercury in 12th - (Mine in his)
Jupiter in 12th - (Mine in his)

His Moon in my 11th
My Venus in his 11th

Some other interesting similarities/mirroring with respect to our natal charts:
My moon in 8th - His moon in Scorpio
His moon in 5th - My venus in 5th

Both have Jupiter in 7th house

My Sun in 6th
His North Node in 6th

Heavy Saturn influence in both of our charts:
Saturn being my chart ruler and in 1st house
Saturn conjunct his Sun and ruler of his NN (in Capricorn)

Uranian influence in both charts:
Uranus conjunct ascendant in my chart
Uranus conjunct IC in his chart
Uranus opposite Sun in my chart
Sun in 11th in his chart

Our relationship is definitely a very uranian one, no doubt about that. If I had to choose like a "theme" it would be a Uranus-Pluto-Mercury type of thing.
There are some other similarities (mars square saturn in both our charts, pluto sextile moon), maybe some that I haven't noticed but I found those to be the most meaningful and with the tightest orbs.

As for Yin and Yang balancing, he is practically earth void, whereas my chart is full of earth. My chart lacks a lot of air and fire, which his has more of. What we have in common are water placements.

Some composite chart stuff:
Mystic rectangle configuration w/ ascendant in aries
Pluto conjunct Moon - conjunct Vertex - conjunct Descendant
North Node conjunct MC
Moon trine Pluto
Venus trine Pluto
Saturn conjunct Mars in 12th house
Yod with Jupiter, Sun, and Uranus in 8th as the apex.

Our composite Mercury conjunct his Natal South Node
Our composite Chiron conjunct my Natal Venus

Jeez. Typing all of that up was exhausting. I don't know how most of you manage to do it so often.

posted February 14, 2015 06:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Blind writer:
Either direct nodes aren't as rare as they're touted, or they attract together likes flies, because I know quite a few people with direct nodes. And among these folks, there are those clearly less evolved than others, so I sincerely doubt it has much to do with a "last incarnation".

If anything, it could be the end of one "task" in preparation for the next. Or that a special goal was chosen for this particular incarnation, or that your task spans multiple life lines. Perhaps even backward in time to a "future" in the past, if you adhere to reincarnation theory.

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