posted February 13, 2015 05:07 PM            

I have Pluto energy in me....and I find pisces to be a very weak willed energy, it leaves me feeling they will be swayed by their momentary emotions to easily, how do you trust them?
They are so changeable that it frustrates me. I kind of feel they are dangerous, like a weak link in my armor. I don't want to rely on them or have them on my team because I don't know if I can trust their perceptions of reality.
(Exception is my son, pisces Sun, taurus Moon, scorp AC)

As far as cancer....they seem to think of love as a game where they always want to one up their partner instead of loving them. Like they always want to be the person in charge(hello mom) they need to get the upper hand instead of seeing their partner as an equal. They are not likely to want to be a team with the ppl they love, these are the ppl they are up against, much in the same way a mother sees her children as the ppl she must keep control of.
With adults they end up manipulating situations instead of being real and living in the moment, which is my preferred place to exist.

posted February 13, 2015 10:11 PM            

Mercury in Scorpio
Venus in Scorpio
Uranus in Scorpio
Jupiter in the 8th house
Sun conjunct Pluto
Moon square Pluto
Mercury conjunct Pluto
Mars sextile Pluto
Jupiter conjunct Pluto
Neptune sextile Pluto

I have only known a few Pisceans. They tend to keep to themselves, which is smart in my opinion. I never know what they are thinking which bothers me. I cannot say I blame them because I'm analyzing everything they say and do.

posted February 13, 2015 10:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Aquarian Moon:
I'm more plutonian than anything else, but I have some Scorpio planets.

Mercury in Scorpio
Venus in Scorpio
Uranus in Scorpio
Jupiter in the 8th house
Sun conjunct Pluto
Moon square Pluto
Mercury conjunct Pluto
Mars sextile Pluto
Jupiter conjunct Pluto
Neptune sextile Pluto

I have only known a few Pisceans. They tend to keep to themselves, which is smart in my opinion. I never know what they are thinking which bothers me. I cannot say I blame them because I'm analyzing everything they say and do.

Cancers...I have met so many sweet Cancers. I like Cancers quite a bit. I cannot say anything bad about them. My best friend growing up was a Cancer. They do have a tendency to manipulate. I'm no angel myself so I cannot judge others too harshly unless they are evil. ^^

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Your very Plutonian!!
From a distance I would think id love pisces, no complaints...until...I get seriously involved...passive aggressive, overly emotional, delusions that they act on and then realize they acted out for no reason and want you to figure them out and then forgive them for their misperceptions over n over again.
Ugh! I want to love them, but seriously, I don't think it's possible.

Cancers are great at first so loving and there for you but then it all turns odd.
Maybe it's because I'm a woman and this energy in a man is tough for a woman to deal with. I'm not into this stuff myself, but aren't we(as females), supposed to be the ones sitting around gossiping about everyone, playing head games and trying to nurture/control everyone with through our love/nurturing? Lol

posted February 13, 2015 10:56 PM            

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Originally posted by AiryCancer:
You're asking loyal, secretive scorpios to come out and dish on their fellow water signs?!
Kidding.. as a Cancer I sorta kinda want to know too. friendly bump

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posted February 13, 2015 11:08 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
Your very Plutonian!!
From a distance I would think id love pisces, no complaints...until...I get seriously involved...passive aggressive, overly emotional, delusions that they act on and then realize they acted out for no reason and want you to figure them over n over again. Ugh! I want to love them, but seriously, I don't think it's possible.

Cancers are great at first so loving and there for you but then it all turns odd.
Maybe it's because I'm a woman and this energy in a man is tough for a woman to deal with. I'm not into this stuff but aren't we(as females) supposed to be the ones sitting around gossiping about everyone, playing head games and trying to nurture/control everyone with our nurturing? Lol

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I was surprised (but then again, not so much) when I saw how much Pluto rules my life.

I have to say that I do remember one Cancer woman I was friendly with. She and I went to a yoga retreat together because we went to the same studio. She was very nice and sweet. I liked her vibe...until she tried to mother me. We went out to eat one night before we arrived at our destination and she was trying to serve me food, like a mom does with her child.

posted February 13, 2015 11:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Aquarian Moon:
I was surprised (but then again, not so much) when I saw how much Pluto rules my life.

I have to say that I do remember one Cancer woman I was friendly with. She and I went to a yoga retreat together because we went to the same studio. She was very nice and sweet. I liked her vibe...until she tried to mother me. We went out to eat one night before we arrived at our destination and she was trying to serve me food, like a mom does with her child.

I'm like wth, I didn't say anything and we had a good time at the retreat, but honestly I lost touch with her on purpose after that. I have a freaking Moon square Pluto. I'm not looking for a mommy.

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posted February 15, 2015 10:50 AM            

My experience of pisces, I tend to find they have a deep hidden insight they don't share with everyone. They tend to not be as able to hide their changeable emotions due to their lack of shell that scorpios and cancers have. They have a love for the universe in general. Very sensitive.

Cancers I like them. There is a sweetness to every cancer I meet and they will be there for you. I find Cancer to be a manipulative sign i'd say more than Scorpio. Very sweet though.

All water signs have a lot of depth in my opinion.

posted February 16, 2015 10:25 AM            

Can't speak for Pisces much, at least not the men (all the ones I've known didn't seem reliable to me, "slippery fish"), but the women can be great. They seem to be emotionally stronger and more reliable than the men, and have a certain attractiveness to them that's hard to explain (otherworldly stuff, I suppose).

So on a friendship level at least, Scorpio/Pisces can work rather well (I have other examples around me as well that seem to support this).
Note: Pisces Moons are an entirely different story (starts well but they can be way too sensitive for the Water Suns who are usually more emotionally "robust").

Cancer... Now Cancer and Scorpio especially tend to be attracted to each other often, no matter the type of relationship... But like some have mentioned, Cancers can be quite manipulative and "crabby" - either sulking, getting angry and/or passive/aggressive on you "randomly" (and it can be rather difficult to have a calm, honest conversation with them (depending on their level of maturity)).

Overall there can be a deep, unspoken attraction between Water signs (I am not sure, but it may apply to the other triplicities as well) but there is absolutely no guarantee that the connection will reach such a level of depth/closeness as to lead to a successful relationship (actually, sometimes that's the only bond that exists between the two - a deep, transcendent feeling that doesn't manifest as an actual relationship and remains on a feeling level).
Also Water relationships can get really messy fast because of the overwhelming emotionalism that both people tend to bring out in each other (which is what often attracts them to each other in the first place, but then creates a lot of issues).

posted February 16, 2015 12:42 PM            

Nice to see you back!

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posted February 19, 2015 07:24 PM            

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Aw, thanks Faith.
I appreciate it.

I am not completely "back", though I do lurk sometimes and post here and there.

Hope you are doing well, been a while!

posted February 20, 2015 12:56 AM            

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Originally posted by theunknown:
^^^im a non scorpionic plutonian and I agree. Being Plutonuan doesnt equate to being scorpionic because the water element might not be there.

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I agree Doux hit it perfect...I'm a Plutonian not necessarily water based though, I guess I'm an air based Plutonian...lol

posted February 20, 2015 01:01 AM            

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Originally posted by zirr1:
Moon in Scoprio
Pluto in Scorpio
Sun trine Pluto
Venus trine Pluto
Mars opposition Pluto
Saturn square Pluto
Neptune trine Ascendant

My experience of pisces, I tend to find they have a deep hidden insight they don't share with everyone. They tend to not be as able to hide their changeable emotions due to their lack of shell that scorpios and cancers have. They have a love for the universe in general. Very sensitive.

Cancers I like them. There is a sweetness to every cancer I meet and they will be there for you. I find Cancer to be a manipulative sign i'd say more than Scorpio. Very sweet though.

All water signs have a lot of depth in my opinion.

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I could see how pisces might appear weaker due to the lack of ability to hide anywhere....all the others have a shell to protect them. That might be why they are so inconsistent and changeable...they are ppl pleasers because they have no other defense mechanism.

posted February 20, 2015 01:24 AM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Aw, thanks Faith.
I appreciate it.

I am not completely "back", though I do lurk sometimes and post here and there.

Hope you are doing well, been a while!

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Hi!!! So happy your back!!

Thank you for your answer...makes perfect sense!

The depths of pisces is awesome but like you said they are slippery, they don't have the solidarity to hold true to and honor their word(the guys at least).

I knew a male pisces moon he was not to bad but his saggy sun squared his moon and he was not very emotional at all, he was all saggy, very little pisces like to me. Plus he has a scorp Venus, loyalty meant a lot to him.
Cancers are way to manipulative, I'm so glad scorp's think that to!
You guys really get a bad rap for being the manipulators/head gamers of the zodiac but IMO cancers take the grand prize for that, and not in a good way.

posted February 20, 2015 10:50 AM            

Sun sq pluto
Venus sq pluto
Sun in 8th
Venus in 8th
Neptune in Scorpio
Merc in Scorpio
Merc sextile Pluto
Pluto opp saturn
Pluto conj Uranus
Pluto sextile Neptune
Pluto trine Mc
BML in scorpio
Pluto ruler of 8th h
2 of my t squares feature pluto and a bunch of my midpoints fall in scorpio including sun/moon, so according to Pullen Scorpio and Pluto rank no. 1 in my chart.

I love Pisces people. I've had my fair share of relationships with them. Plus on of my daughters is a pisces sun (and she has a Pisces son) and my other daughter has a Pisces moon, so I've had my share of up close observations of them. I adore their capabilities for unconditional love and their seemingly endless wellspring of compassion. It's very inspiring. The thing my Scorp parts doesn't like is the flakiness. For ex. I have a Pisces ex who was with a lady for 2 years and she passed away unexpectedly. So I sent my condolences via fb. He wrote me back and thanked me but then told me how he had been planning to break up with her right before she got sick. He said she was too controlling. But he stuck it out bc he didn't want her to die alone. That is what he told me privately but yet on his fb he continues to post sympathy inducing posts about how she was so wonderful/ love of his life, etc. That gets on my nerves. Also with pisces, the liesssss. Omg. Lots of "creative storytelling" or outright lies and omissions. Gets my Sag stuff riled up.

posted February 20, 2015 01:00 PM            

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I love Pisces people. I've had my fair share of relationships with them. Plus on of my daughters is a pisces sun (and she has a Pisces son) and my other daughter has a Pisces moon, so I've had my share of up close observations of them. I adore their capabilities for unconditional love and their seemingly endless wellspring of compassion. It's very inspiring. The thing my Scorp parts doesn't like is the flakiness. For ex. I have a Pisces ex who was with a lady for 2 years and she passed away unexpectedly. So I sent my condolences via fb. He wrote me back and thanked me but then told me how he had been planning to break up with her right before she got sick. He said she was too controlling. But he stuck it out bc he didn't want her to die alone. That is what he told me privately but yet on his fb he continues to post sympathy inducing posts about how she was so wonderful/ love of his life, etc. That gets on my nerves. Also with pisces, the liesssss. Omg. Lots of "creative storytelling" or outright lies and omissions. Gets my Sag stuff riled up.

Cancers I love even though whether it be man or woman they want to mother me then get mad when I don't take their unsolicited advice. Which comes by the truckload. Still I love them bc they can be deeply committed and stay that way for life, and I admire that.[/B]

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Yes, yes anddd yes. The lies!! The deception!! The raw emotion of a Pisces sings to my Scorpio Moon but their nonsense sends up red flags everywhere!! I can relate. I went on vacation with a good friend and her Pisces (Sun, Venus & Mars) boyfriend (also a friend). Long story short...the trip ended with him MAJORLY crushing on me. The compliments and "what ifs" kept flowing after the trip was over behind my friend's back. At first I felt a little confused...did I miss something? Did this guy really fall for me that hard? I was only his friend. It was always inappropriate for him to cross that line but it became REALLY inappropriate when he would speak negatively about my friend and yet I knew their relationship was just peachy behind closed doors. It's like he had this vivid fantasy in his mind about "us" when there was never an "us." I had to completely cut communication with him.

Cancers...as emotionally complicated and frustrating as they are I just love them. I think they are widely misunderstood but if you get into a groove with them they are so warm and loving. My SO is one so I might be a little biased

posted February 20, 2015 04:56 PM            

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Originally posted by GypseeWind:
Show us your Pluto, hee hee.

Sun sq pluto
Venus sq pluto
Sun in 8th
Venus in 8th
Neptune in Scorpio
Merc in Scorpio
Merc sextile Pluto
Pluto opp saturn
Pluto conj Uranus
Pluto sextile Neptune
Pluto trine Mc
BML in scorpio
Pluto ruler of 8th h
2 of my t squares feature pluto and a bunch of my midpoints fall in scorpio including sun/moon, so according to Pullen Scorpio and Pluto rank no. 1 in my chart.

I love Pisces people. I've had my fair share of relationships with them. Plus on of my daughters is a pisces sun (and she has a Pisces son) and my other daughter has a Pisces moon, so I've had my share of up close observations of them. I adore their capabilities for unconditional love and their seemingly endless wellspring of compassion. It's very inspiring. The thing my Scorp parts doesn't like is the flakiness. For ex. I have a Pisces ex who was with a lady for 2 years and she passed away unexpectedly. So I sent my condolences via fb. He wrote me back and thanked me but then told me how he had been planning to break up with her right before she got sick. He said she was too controlling. But he stuck it out bc he didn't want her to die alone. That is what he told me privately but yet on his fb he continues to post sympathy inducing posts about how she was so wonderful/ love of his life, etc. That gets on my nerves. Also with pisces, the liesssss. Omg. Lots of "creative storytelling" or outright lies and omissions. Gets my Sag stuff riled up.

Cancers I love even though whether it be man or woman they want to mother me then get mad when I don't take their unsolicited advice. Which comes by the truckload. Still I love them bc they can be deeply committed and stay that way for life, and I admire that.

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posted February 20, 2015 05:10 PM            

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Originally posted by margym0o:
Yes, yes anddd yes. The lies!! The deception!! The raw emotion of a Pisces sings to my Scorpio Moon but their nonsense sends up red flags everywhere!! I can relate. I went on vacation with a good friend and her Pisces (Sun, Venus & Mars) boyfriend (also a friend). Long story short...the trip ended with him MAJORLY crushing on me. The compliments and "what ifs" kept flowing after the trip was over behind my friend's back. At first I felt a little confused...did I miss something? Did this guy really fall for me that hard? I was only his friend. It was always inappropriate for him to cross that line but it became REALLY inappropriate when he would speak negatively about my friend and yet I knew their relationship was just peachy behind closed doors. It's like he had this vivid fantasy in his mind about "us" when there was never an "us." I had to completely cut communication with him.

Cancers...as emotionally complicated and frustrating as they are I just love them. I think they are widely misunderstood but if you get into a groove with them they are so warm and loving. My SO is one so I might be a little biased

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Edit-Did you tell your friend? Is she still with him?

Crazy story about your friends pisces boyfriend.
I dated a pisces that was flakey like that, it was like he had fantasies about negative things that were happening in relationships with his friends. At times he'd tell me about it and I told him to try talking to his friend but he refused. He said he would just endure it because he didn't want to create a bigger issue. Whenever they were around each other I saw nothing that made me think they were anything but absolutely best friends. I asked him if they had talked n worked it out...he got mad at me and told me not to talk about stupid things like that.
Then I found out he started saying the same type things about me, that he said about his friends to me.
I called him out and broke up with him, he got mad and slept with his ex girlfriend in revenge...then begged me to get back with him.
I didn't know he'd slept with his ex so I forgave him, but then I found out he had slept with her, and on the same day we broke up. He said he did it because he was mad to get back at me, so I broke up with him again.
He has begged and begged(3 months now) me to come back....but I would never go back to that kind of crazy!

posted February 20, 2015 05:25 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
Crazy story about your friends pisces boyfriend.
I dated a pisces that was flakey like that, it was like he had fantasies about negative things that were happening in relationships with his friends. At times he'd tell me about and I told him to try talking to his friend but he refused he said he would just endure it because he dust want to create a bigger issue. But whenever they were around each other I saw nothing that made me think they were anything but absolutely best friends. I asked him if they had talked n worked it out...he got mad at me and told me not to talk about stupid things like that. Then I found out he started saying the same type things about me to his friends that he said about them to me.
I called him out and broke up with him, he got mad and slept with his ex girlfriend in revenge...then begged me to get back with him. I forgave him, but then I found out her slept with her the same day we broke up, he said to get back at me, so I broke up with him again.
He begged and begged(3 months now) me to come back....but I would never go back to that crazy!

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posted February 20, 2015 05:43 PM            

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Originally posted by margym0o:
The whole "martyrdom" thing really runs deep the heavier the Pisces influence I find. Even those with just one personal planet in Pisces are guilty of this even just a little bit, in my opinion. It's like they "take the abuse" or "suffer the consequences" or whatever because to them it's the "only way" (or they create scenarios just to feel this way). Like they think playing the victim and being a "survivor" somehow makes them stronger in your eyes. You just want to slap them and tell them to snap out of it. Best you stay clear of this guy

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