posted March 01, 2015 04:11 PM            

Ahhh, thanks for that...Paganini 13 Cap makes multiple contacts with my chart, it's part of my aligned geometry, but what I like is it falling in my 12th, near my ASC, probably that's why it makes me dream and enter another world of my soul.

Try Concerto numero 1

EDIT: Menuhin
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posted March 01, 2015 07:54 PM            

The concerto is beautiful, especially played by Menuhin ! Goes in my top 10 list.

posted March 01, 2015 07:57 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Ahhh, thanks for that...Paganini 13 Cap makes multiple contacts with my chart, it's part of my aligned geometry, but what I like is it falling in my 12th, near my ASC, probably that's why it makes me dream and enter another world of my soul.

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posted March 01, 2015 07:59 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
This is such a lovely thread

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posted March 04, 2015 07:05 AM            

Alexander Scriabin was a musical genius identified by composer and author Cyril Scott as "a Deva exponent." Scriabin's music was inspired by the Devas who overshadowed him. As mystic and clairvoyant Geoffrey Hodson states: "A measure of the composer's life and consciousness is incarnated as an ensouling principle" in their music. But in Scriabin's case, the "life and consciousness" is that of a parallel evolution to ours.

Scriabin's magnum opus was to be a spiritual rite that was to span several days. Colored lights were to be employed, corresponding to the notes being played. (Scriabin had the ability to see colors when hearing music, known as "synesthesia.") He intended it to have a healing effect on the participants. Scriabin thus anticipated the multi-media art of the 1960s and was a forerunner of New Age music.

In Scriabin's chart, the NN is in his 12H, which is fitting given the multidimensional attributes of this house and his life and mission. I have Venus in the 12H and Venus is conjunct his Jupiter-Uranus conjunction, which explains the affinity for Scriabin and his music. Scriabin was a "Promethean" artist, shown by his Jupiter-Uranus conjunction trine Venus, who sought to liberate and awaken through his music. I have a Moon-Uranus conjunction and am drawn to Promethean figures.

My NN and Jupiter are in Pisces. Scriabin has Pisces intercepted in his 10H. I regard him as a spiritual teacher and authority figure.

His MC and IC are 12 degrees Aquarius-Leo which overlay my DESC-ASC axis at 13 degrees.

Scriabin's Neptune squares my Venus (2).

posted March 06, 2015 01:42 PM            

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Originally posted by peony:
Favorite quote ever, also Scriabin:

"My joy is so vast that myriads of universes could sink into it without even rippling the surface."

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Thank you for this! I don't think I have thoroughly listened to him, I will.

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posted March 06, 2015 04:21 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Thank you for this! I don't think I have thoroughly listened to him, I will.

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LeeLoo, I would suggest Scriabin's 5th symphony, the "Prometheus" aka "Poem of Fire." The qualities of exuberance and ecstasy are present throughout the score. If you haven't been exposed to much atonal 20th century music, like Schoenberg or Stravinsky, this piece may surprise you. It is quite dissonant. It took me repeated listenings before I could hear what is in this music. My expectations and what I was used to created a barrier I could not hear through.

Also, the Prometheus/Poem of Fire doesn't sound at all like New Age "angelic music." It demands greater subtlety in the listener.

It was composed between 1908 and 1910. Its multidimensionality is a correlation with and expression of the Uranus-Neptune opposition just prior to the conjunction of the 1990s, which is when I discovered it and listened to it.

Music can be used as a means of tuning into the energies of one's transits. The Prometheus is one example of the kind of music to listen to during Uranus transits in general, Uranus transits to natal Neptune, or Neptune transits to natal Uranus.

posted March 06, 2015 04:52 PM            

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Originally posted by peony:
LeeLoo, I would suggest Scriabin's 5th symphony, the "Prometheus" aka "Poem of Fire." The qualities of exuberance and ecstasy are present throughout the score. If you haven't been exposed to much atonal 20th century music, like Schoenberg or Stravinsky, this piece may surprise you. It is quite dissonant. It took me repeated listenings before I could hear what is in this music. My expectations and what I was used to created a barrier I could not hear through.

Also, the Prometheus/Poem of Fire doesn't sound at all like New Age "angelic music." It demands greater subtlety in the listener.

It was composed between 1908 and 1910. Its multidimensionality is a correlation with and expression of the Uranus-Neptune opposition just prior to the conjunction of the 1990s, which is when I discovered it and listened to it.

Music can be used as a means of tuning into the energies of one's transits. The Prometheus is one example of the kind of music to listen to during Uranus transits in general, Uranus transits to natal Neptune, or Neptune transits to natal Uranus.

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Such a wonderful post, thank you I love Stravinsky, so I can't wait to listen to the Poem of Fire! You are so inspired to find the connection between Prometheus and the current astrological context You are a beautiful presence on this forum, Peony! Do you play music as well or you are just a music lover like myself? (it's strange, melomaniac has a negative connotation in English, some sort of "maniac", it seems hahahaha) I used to play piano but haven't practiced for years.

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posted March 07, 2015 04:55 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Such a wonderful post, thank you I love Stravinsky, so I can't wait to listen to the Poem of Fire! You are so inspired to find the connection between Prometheus and the current astrological context You are a beautiful presence on this forum, Peony! Do you play music as well or you are just a music lover like myself? (it's strange, melomaniac has a negative connotation in English, some sort of "maniac", it seems hahahaha) I used to play piano but haven't practiced for years.

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LeeLoo, thank you for your kind words. Did you know Stravinsky's "Sacre de Printemps" created a riot at its premier and not surprisingly, it's a very Plutonic piece of music? lol

I certainly fit the definition of melomaniac as one "passionate about music." Like you, I studied piano and classical music growing up, but did not pursue it as an adult. But, as it turns out, music has taken on a new "relationship" with me in a surprising way.

I've just had an article published in the February-March issue of Mountain Astrologer called "Planetary Cycles and Musical Inspiration." Basically, the article shows correlations between great pieces of music, world transits, and simultaneous personal transits of the composers when the pieces were created. Doing the research for the article is how I discovered the correlation between Scriabin's Prometheus and the Uranus-Neptune cycle.

I also give a workshop to educate people on the significance of music on the chakras, as a way of experiencing higher consciousness. The idea is nothing new. The East Indians have been well aware of this for centuries with their yoga of sound or "nada yoga," as a path toward union with God. The workshop is a modern take on this ancient form of yoga. But, instead of focusing on a mantra or listening to a raga, the workshop involves listening to pieces of music from different genres: classical, world music, jazz, bluegrass, rock, and New Age music.

Thank you, LeeLoo, for your generosity and kindness!

posted March 08, 2015 03:43 PM            

Hans Zimmer

his Moon possibly opposite mine
his Sun trine my Sun 1
his Mercury conjunct my ASC 2 and trine Neptune 0
his Venus conjunct my Moon 2, sextile Mercury 2 and square Saturn 2
his Jupiter trine my Venus 3
his Uranus opposite my Venus 4
his Neptune conjunct my Moon 1

Thomas J. Bergersen from Two Steps From Hell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3VNep_u-lY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d9ME7JVb1M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zC-YqxXz6gw

his Sun opposite my Neptune and Uranus 2, opposite Sun 5
his Mercury opposite my Saturn 2, conjunct Chiron 1 and NN 4
his Jupiter conjunct my ASC 5
his Neptune conjunct my Mercury 5
his Pluto square my Sun 1
his NN conjunct my AV 1

Their charts are similar in some ways. They both have same sign Sun and Mercury, their Marses are conjunct in Virgo (and they create a grand trine with my Mars and Saturn and square my Merc), they have airy Venus in a hard aspect to Neptune, conjunction and opposition. They may have their Moons in the same sign. Uranus-NN square in Leo and Scorpio (but the other way round). Venus-Pluto trine and sextile. Saturn-Uranus exact sextile and 1 deg trine. Mercury-Saturn.

Patrick Doyle, the author of one of my favorite soundtracks which you can listen to here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5C7iFyQSCw&list=PLFB5A5DF05B2A03DD

his Sun square my Sun 2, Neptune 2 and Uranus 4
his Mercury square my Mercury 4
his Venus opposite my Moon 3 and square Saturn 1
his Jupiter conjunct my Mars 5
his Saturn conjunct my Moon 5
his Uranus opposite my Neptune 0
his Neptune square my Sun 4, conjunct my Moon 7, sextile Mercury 3
his Pluto conjunct my AV 1
his NN conjunct my Venus 5
his Pholus conjunct my Venus 0
his Chiron conjunct my Sun 2

He too is blessed with hard Venus-Neptune :O And has earthy Mars like the rest.

posted March 08, 2015 05:05 PM            

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...a big part of his music...is strongly influenced by Chopin...

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Peluches, it is true that Chopin was a major influence on Scriabin's early compositions, although his predilection for Chopin's music was based on psychological rather than musical reasons, both sharing the quality of refinement and subtlety.

posted March 08, 2015 05:36 PM            

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He too is blessed with hard Venus-Neptune :O

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Venus-Neptune is the artist's combination, although I think Saturn-Neptune is also. In her Neptune book, Liz Greene has compiled a list of composers, most of whom have the Sun and/or Saturn in major aspect to Neptune.

Hans Zimmer doesn't. But Bergersen has Saturn square Neptune and Doyle has Sun opposing a Saturn-Neptune conjunction. So, two out of three.

As for the synastry, all three have major Uranus-Neptune aspects to either your Sun, Moon, or Venus, which doesn't surprise me.

Zimmer's Jupiter-Uranus aspects to your Venus is similar to Scriabin's to my Venus, so, I imagine with similar effects. lol

Edit: Sun, Moon, and/or Saturn in major aspect to Neptune.

posted March 09, 2015 05:47 PM            

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Originally posted by peony:
LeeLoo, thank you for your kind words. Did you know Stravinsky's "Sacre de Printemps" created a riot at its premier and not surprisingly, it's a very Plutonic piece of music? lol

I certainly fit the definition of melomaniac as one "passionate about music." Like you, I studied piano and classical music growing up, but did not pursue it as an adult. But, as it turns out, music has taken on a new "relationship" with me in a surprising way.

I've just had an article published in the February-March issue of Mountain Astrologer called "Planetary Cycles and Musical Inspiration." Basically, the article shows correlations between great pieces of music, world transits, and simultaneous personal transits of the composers when the pieces were created. Doing the research for the article is how I discovered the correlation between Scriabin's Prometheus and the Uranus-Neptune cycle.

I also give a workshop to educate people on the significance of music on the chakras, as a way of experiencing higher consciousness. The idea is nothing new. The East Indians have been well aware of this for centuries with their yoga of sound or "nada yoga," as a path toward union with God. The workshop is a modern take on this ancient form of yoga. But, instead of focusing on a mantra or listening to a raga, the workshop involves listening to pieces of music from different genres: classical, world music, jazz, bluegrass, rock, and New Age music.

Thank you, LeeLoo, for your generosity and kindness!

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A new and original form of Mantras! This is wonderful! I am impressed, peony, and thank you for the description and the reference. I would love a link to your workshop, I am very interested in the topic I think it's Ok to post it here, if not, please contact me in my email, thank you

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posted March 09, 2015 05:50 PM            

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Originally posted by peony:
Venus-Neptune is the artist's combination, although I think Saturn-Neptune is also. In her Neptune book, Liz Greene has compiled a list of composers, most of whom have the Sun and/or Saturn in major aspect to Neptune.

Hans Zimmer doesn't. But Bergersen has Saturn square Neptune and Doyle has Sun opposing a Saturn-Neptune conjunction. So, two out of three.

As for the synastry, all three have major Uranus-Neptune aspects to either your Sun, Moon, or Venus, which doesn't surprise me.

Zimmer's Jupiter-Uranus aspects to your Venus is similar to Scriabin's to my Venus, so, I imagine with similar effects. lol

Edit: Sun, Moon, and/or Saturn in major aspect to Neptune.

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Saturn/Neptune is highly interesting as combination if we think of it as the "effort" of sound making, sound generating, giving reality and form through sound. Apart from Saturn being the "touch" of genius, the "old soul" and "highly organized" part of the genius.

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posted March 09, 2015 06:00 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
... I think it's Ok to post it here ...

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posted March 10, 2015 03:46 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
A new and original form of Mantras! This is wonderful! I am impressed, peony, and thank you for the description and the reference. I would love a link to your workshop, I am very interested in the topic I think it's Ok to post it here, if not, please contact me in my email, thank you

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LeeLoo, I got the idea to create the workshop from a composer who wrote a book "Music and the Soul." So, I cannot take credit for the linkage between music and chakras. I don't have a link to the workshop, but I can email you the flyer, if that's what you mean.

posted March 10, 2015 03:58 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Saturn/Neptune is highly interesting as combination if we think of it as the "effort" of sound making, sound generating, giving reality and form through sound. Apart from Saturn being the "touch" of genius, the "old soul" and "highly organized" part of the genius.

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LeeLoo, great comment. I hadn't thought of Saturn-Neptune in that way before. No wonder the aspect turns up so often in composers' charts!

posted March 10, 2015 05:28 PM            

Alan Hovhaness

unknown TOB

his mercury conjunct my mercury
his jupiter conjunct my jupiter
his saturn/ceres conjunct my ceres
his moon/pluto close conjunct my IC
his venus sextile my mars
his chiron conjunct my saturn
his mars/uranus conjunnct my neptune/uranus
his sun conjunct my Pallas
his pallas conjunct my sun

Maurice Ravel

His mercury conjunct my mercury
his saturn conjunct my moon/sun
his venus square my ceres
his neptune conjunct my ceres
his ceres conjunct my IC
his sun/moon conjunct my pallas
his pallas/pluto square my sun/moon

posted March 10, 2015 06:18 PM            

Tchaikovsky: Sun square Neptune

Chopin: Sun square Neptune; Saturn conjunct Neptune

Pachelbel: Sun square Neptune (wide); Saturn trine Neptune

Schubert: Sun square Neptune; Moon trine Neptune

Scarlatti: Sun trine Neptune; Saturn quincunx Neptune

Zimmer: Venus conjunct Neptune

Paganini: Moon square Neptune

Scriabin: Sun square Neptune; Saturn square Neptune

Bergersen: Saturn square Neptune

Doyle: Sun opposite Neptune; Saturn conjunct Neptune

Hovhaness: Sun trine Neptune

Dylan: Moon trine Neptune; Saturn trine Neptune

Ravel: Sun conjunct Moon in Pisces; Venus square Neptune

posted March 10, 2015 06:26 PM            

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Originally posted by peony:
Every composer mentioned on this thread has Sun, Moon, or Saturn in major aspect (and one quincunx) to Neptune. There were two exceptions: Hans Zimmer (Venus conjunct Neptune) and Maurice Ravel (Sun conjunct Moon in Pisces and Venus square Neptune). I think of Bob Dylan as a songwriter, musician, and poet rather than composer, but have included him.

Tchaikovsky: Sun square Neptune

Chopin: Sun square Neptune; Saturn conjunct Neptune

Pachelbel: Sun square Neptune (wide); Saturn trine Neptune

Schubert: Sun square Neptune; Moon trine Neptune

Scarlatti: Sun trine Neptune; Saturn quincunx Neptune

Zimmer: Venus conjunct Neptune

Paganini: Moon square Neptune

Scriabin: Sun square Neptune; Saturn square Neptune

Bergersen: Saturn square Neptune

Doyle: Sun opposite Neptune; Saturn conjunct Neptune

Hovhaness: Sun trine Neptune

Dylan: Moon trine Neptune; Saturn trine Neptune

Ravel: Sun conjunct Moon in Pisces; Venus square Neptune

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