posted March 02, 2015 11:57 PM            

I was wondering if anything stood out in the charts-Are we karmic soulmates?companion souls?or something else?

Thank you very much for your help in advance

Note:Birth times are accurate.

Synastry chart (i'm on the inside-blue)

Composite chart

Natal chart (me)

Natal chart (him)

posted March 03, 2015 04:28 AM            

PSYCHE (16)
EROS (433)
VALENTINE (447)
ALMA (390)
ISIS (42)
OSIRIS (1923)
KARMA (3811)
DESTINN (6583)

posted March 03, 2015 07:55 AM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
I'm not getting much karmic influence here. Potential of his APHRODITE hitting your BML square your NODES, but the orb is wide (2°) and unless I see some other resonance, that seems like an unlikely direction.

Plug in the other points, and we can see if there are any hits.

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posted March 03, 2015 07:56 AM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Gimme a few days, Aurora. These take time.

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posted March 03, 2015 08:16 AM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
I'd really like to see

PSYCHE (16)
EROS (433)
VALENTINE (447)
ALMA (390)
ISIS (42)
OSIRIS (1923)
KARMA (3811)
DESTINN (6583)

When determining if I'm looking at Soulmate charts.

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Charts as requested:

Synastry chart: (i'm on the inside)

Composite chart:

Natal chart(me)

Natal chart (him)

posted March 03, 2015 02:27 PM            

This is immediately noticeable from your OSIRIS-infused MOONs. It's there in both of you, by conjunction. Meanwhile, you're a PSYCHE-SUN, and his EROS conjoins your MOON -- so there's a resonance. (I'd prefer he have an EROS-MOON, since that shows complementariness rather than similarity.)

Meanwhile, you already know you're carrying your own powerful soul influence with VENUS/NNODE and MARS=ISIS/OSIRIS. It's somewhat earmarked for you having a significant relationship with an influential Soulmate.

So, what your biggest question is going to be invariably be is: is this him? Is this it?

And my honest opinion is, I don't think so.

Now, he is, like you, looking for a VENUS=MOON/OSIRIS energy -- but of a different nature; different flavour. I'm not sure if you guys can really help each other in this area, or it should be your focus. He's got a tight pattern of VENUS opposite MOON/OSIRIS; you're a VENUS/NNODE, showing that this is crucial for your development. It carries a weaker ISIS/OSIRIS flavour, but it's 'heavily diluted', essentially.

Now, I'd be singing a different tune, were your VENUS/NNODE | MARS=ISIS/OSIRIS being directly hit by his own MOON/OSIRIS opposite VENUS, or any of his 'hot spots'. But there's zero connexion between them. Oh, sure, his ALMA is opposite all of them, but this neither ties into his ISIS, nor his VENUS. It doesn't describe the Soulmate energy he's carrying.

So what's with the MOON/OSIRIS connexion you both obviously share? And his EROS on your MOON/OSIRIS, with you being a SUN/PSYCHE?

It's enough to show there's mostly similarity with a little bit of difference. Like fraternal twins of opposite sexes. He's undeniably a soul-brother, possibly one of your closest in proximity.

I don't think this is a relationship carrying karmic debt.

Honestly, those with the heaviest debt tend to form relationships VERY quickly, as a means of clearing that karma. The ones that waffle, or take a longer time to settle into some form of rhythm or take shape, tend to carry less urgent karma, offer reward, or, as you correctly identified, be of the Companion variety.

Now, so as to not confuse you, Companion Soulmates are not of the guaranteed romantic variety, though many DO choose to marry. Even then it might not be super smooth sailing, with increasing lack of passion becoming an issue.

Souls become Companions when they travel together for a very long time; they've chosen to become travel companions, and thus want to be with each other, achieving mutual goals and realising ambitions -- whether that's having a family or running a business. It ranges.

But when we have Companion Soulmates who are in such close proximity they're from the same Oversoul, these are our soul-siblings. We were 'born' with them, and so it is like any sibling relationship. We meet and have an instantaneous unconscious familiarity. But, most often with these relationships, they become our lifelong friends, carrying that familial vibe, as we both need something else romantically-speaking, in order to fulfill our soul's agenda.

posted March 03, 2015 09:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Yes, you're from the same Oversoul (or 'soul group') and likely close-proximity Soulmates, cut from the same emotional cloth.

This is immediately noticeable from your OSIRIS-infused MOONs. It's there in both of you, by conjunction. Meanwhile, you're a PSYCHE-SUN, and his EROS conjoins your MOON -- so there's a resonance. (I'd prefer he have an EROS-MOON, since that shows complementariness rather than similarity.)

Meanwhile, you already know you're carrying your own powerful soul influence with VENUS/NNODE and MARS=ISIS/OSIRIS. It's somewhat earmarked for you having a significant relationship with an influential Soulmate.

[b]So, what your biggest question is going to be invariably be is: is this him? Is this it?

And my honest opinion is, I don't think so.

Now, he is, like you, looking for a VENUS=MOON/OSIRIS energy -- but of a different nature; different flavour. I'm not sure if you guys can really help each other in this area, or it should be your focus. He's got a tight pattern of VENUS opposite MOON/OSIRIS; you're a VENUS/NNODE, showing that this is crucial for your development. It carries a weaker ISIS/OSIRIS flavour, but it's 'heavily diluted', essentially.

Now, I'd be singing a different tune, were your VENUS/NNODE | MARS=ISIS/OSIRIS being directly hit by his own MOON/OSIRIS opposite VENUS, or any of his 'hot spots'. But there's zero connexion between them. Oh, sure, his ALMA is opposite all of them, but this neither ties into his ISIS, nor his VENUS. It doesn't describe the Soulmate energy he's carrying.

So what's with the MOON/OSIRIS connexion you both obviously share? And his EROS on your MOON/OSIRIS, with you being a SUN/PSYCHE?

It's enough to show there's mostly similarity with a little bit of difference. Like fraternal twins of opposite sexes. He's undeniably a soul-brother, possibly one of your closest in proximity.

I don't think this is a relationship carrying karmic debt.

Honestly, those with the heaviest debt tend to form relationships VERY quickly, as a means of clearing that karma. The ones that waffle, or take a longer time to settle into some form of rhythm or take shape, tend to carry less urgent karma, offer reward, or, as you correctly identified, be of the Companion variety.

Now, so as to not confuse you, Companion Soulmates are not of the guaranteed romantic variety, though many DO choose to marry. Even then it might not be super smooth sailing, with increasing lack of passion becoming an issue.

Souls become Companions when they travel together for a very long time; they've chosen to become travel companions, and thus want to be with each other, achieving mutual goals and realising ambitions -- whether that's having a family or running a business. It ranges.

But when we have Companion Soulmates who are in such close proximity they're from the same Oversoul, these are our soul-siblings. We were 'born' with them, and so it is like any sibling relationship. We meet and have an instantaneous unconscious familiarity. But, most often with these relationships, they become our lifelong friends, carrying that familial vibe, as we both need something else romantically-speaking, in order to fulfill our soul's agenda.

Hope that helps![/B]

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I knew he was someone important to me,i'm just glad to find out that he's a soul-sibling so to speak.

We get along incredibly well.Honestly he's on of the few people who really know me and know me well.And i'm incredibly grateful for that and for him being there for me.

It's funny you say we're cut from the same emotional cloth.When we met,what we bonded over was having similar experiences in childhood-been outcasts etc and we bonded over emotions despite being of different ages,race,religion and sex.I am completely at ease with him and he says he feels the same about me.

But you are right about the lack of passion.There's a feeling like the kind of love that arises after you've known each other for decades,the kind that arises once the passion has settled down.But it's alright with me because it's comforting..and because my venus in aquarius loves it It's the very defination of friendship based love.(at least for me it is)Honestly i wouldn't be surprised if i was to find us married in one or more previous lifetimes.The feeling is there but it's of a good kind of marriage,one without fights or squabbles but lacking in mind blowing passion.One of companiable friendship.

And yes that was my next question,it would have been on my mind if he was that soulmate i was supposed to meet so i'm glad you cleared that up.

So if his purpose isn't clear,ie it can't be seen what soulmate energy he's carrying,is it possible that at the very least we'd remain friends for a long time?and did you mean to say he's a soul sibling as well as a companion soul or just a soul sibling?

It makes me smile to read that he's a soul-brother.And it's right,there was an instant familiarity,instant sharing of things even if we're just prodding along,being friends.3 years on we have settled into some sort of rythm but it's not clear what we are(Aside from being good friends)

I have a couple of questions though:

My karma square his nodes(less than 2 degrees).

Doesn't that indicate some sort of karma though?

And i'm curious about his Alma conjunct my Ascendant (orb 2).

Also my juno conjunct his north node (orb 2.5)

And it's my eros on his moon/osiris instead of his eros on my moon/osiris-does that change anything?

And thank you very very much Aubyanne.

It was very spot on and made me smile.Still smilling infact.It's nice to have a connection you know in your heart validated externally.

posted March 04, 2015 09:20 PM            

What does oversoul mean to you?I've read quite a bit but there's some many different definations i was wondering what you meant when you said he was from the same soul group/oversoul as me.

And just to clarify ,there are soulmates and soul-brother is sorta a subset of soulmates,right?

Edit:

What other subsets of soulmates are there.

And is karmic partner a subset of a soulmate?

Do we meet people who aren't our soulmates..if so under what cateogary do they fall under?

and what's the criteria to know a soul-sibling?Is it the same for everyone(ie everyone with osiris conjunct moon is a soul-sibling of mine) or a case by case basis?

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For example a friend of mine has osiris conjunct moon but its by 7 degrees and his birth time is accurate..is he also a soul-sibling of mine?

And well just one more question,in another thread you said that ASC/DSC overlays with Nodes indicate a soul connection..Is it true for say my Ascendant conjunct his North node (orb 1)?Do we have a soul connection that spans lifetimes.And if so what do you mean by soul connection?

thanks Aubyanne

Edit:

Is an example of complementariness the following:

His Isis/sun conjunction sextile my Osiris/moon conjunction?

posted March 11, 2015 06:54 AM            

Please do reply when you can Aubyanne.

I know you're busy so do reply if and when you can.

posted April 05, 2015 08:02 AM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Aurora,

This is a very, very involved topic. I'm going to start writing more generally about it in IA. Hopefully it can answer some of your questions, as there are many asking similar and seeking such answers as well.

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