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babybull82
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posted March 03, 2015 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for babybull82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His SN is conjuncting my asc @ zero degrees. SN is the past, so that means I knew this person in a past life right or we have some unfinished business?

Maybe we used to work together, because of all of the emphasis on the 10th house (especially his sun exactly conjuncting my MC and my Saturn conjuncts his MC as well). I don't think I've ever had someone drop so many planets in my 10th before.

What do you guys think?

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Aubyanne
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posted March 03, 2015 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SUN conjunct MC isn't karmic, unless it's a pattern. Specifically, it means there might be an innate imbalance of power; you look to him as a superior or authority figure. There's a natural dynamic there.

ASC/DSC overlaying the NODAL axis isn't an automatic 'past life' linkage as much as it confers a soul connexion. This could simply be a soul which has some serious seniority along the ladder in your regard. He has some real authority in general, with SNODE conjunct REGULUS.

Ironic, no?

There's no glaring outstanding karma, though, on his end. His MOON is square your NODES and conjunct your SATURN, so, there's the debt.

What that is, hard to say, but the MOON conjunct SATURN is going to keep you in each other's lives until it's repaid.

My gut reaction says that you've had many lifelines in which he was a paternal figure, and there may be something unresolved between you in that regard. What exactly that is, again, requires deeper analysis.

In any case, your soul recognises him as 'an authority figure' which can be a bit jarring.

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posted March 03, 2015 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for babybull82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What?! Wow!!

You know..something was telling me this may be a familial connection or something along those lines (it just felt that way). But what's really weird about what you're saying is that I'm like 7 yrs older than him. So if he tried to come at me at me like a "father figure" that WOULD irritate the crap out of me.

What's up with his Juno conjuncting my ascendant though? His Saturn conjuncts my vertex and I read that it's really rough. So I'm trying to understand, do I owe HIM a debt or does he owe ME a debt?

I keep editing this, but as I continue to look at this chart more things keep popping up at me. His sun is sitting exactly on top of fixed star Caput Algol as is my MC. That can't be good right, like we might try to destroy each other in the end?

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posted March 03, 2015 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ueharaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
SUN conjunct MC isn't karmic, unless it's a pattern. Specifically, it means there might be an innate imbalance of power; you look to him as a superior or authority figure. There's a natural dynamic there.

ASC/DSC overlaying the NODAL axis isn't an automatic 'past life' linkage as much as it confers a soul connexion. This could simply be a soul which has some serious seniority along the ladder in your regard. He has some real authority in general, with SNODE conjunct REGULUS.

Ironic, no?

There's no glaring outstanding karma, though, on his end. His MOON is square your NODES and conjunct your SATURN, so, there's the debt.

What that is, hard to say, but the MOON conjunct SATURN is going to keep you in each other's lives until it's repaid.

My gut reaction says that you've had many lifelines in which he was a paternal figure, and there may be something unresolved between you in that regard. What exactly that is, again, requires deeper analysis.

In any case, your soul recognises him as 'an authority figure' which can be a bit jarring.


I am curious because with the aspects there are in this synastry I would have thougth a past life connection is very likely. But what points to karma?

asc conjunct south node
moon conjunct saturn
moon square nodes
and his saturn/neptune on her vertex/nodes.

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posted March 03, 2015 06:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ueharaa,

For me, 'past life connexion' implies outstanding debt from single lifeline, rather than soul connexion. I DO agree that MOON conjunct SATURN denotes an outstanding debt requiring resolution in the present.

But ASC/DSC overlaying the NODES? That's deeper. That's soul-based. These are not bonds created in a single lifeline with an unresolved debt. This is a history. A soul history. Typically, soul family.

If there's enough resonance (such as in Aurora's case) there can be evidence of being from the same Oversoul.

Here, I get the sense of Soulmates with strong familial dynamics who have carried this pattern many, many times. Either by choice or for specific purpose.

Depending upon the overall synastry, (as well as Draco and sidereal) this either occurred a few times or has become a pattern that requires breaking and resolution.

'Past life connexion' is far too singular when some of these dynamics present.

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posted March 03, 2015 08:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Koho     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The only time I've felt a Karmic connection was with a person I had a NN trine NN in less than a degree.

It was very clear and she contributed a HUGE amount to my personal growth in a relatively little time we spent in NYC before she moved away.

On the occasion one of us calls the other, usually at a perfect timing to something which one of us needs help with, we talk for 6-8 hours easy. It's pretty ridiculous.

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posted March 03, 2015 08:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for babybull82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is amazing! I don't think I've ever had a synastry like this before, it's scary but cool at the same time.

But what I'm trying to figure out is if our soul connexion is a familial one then why is it we are re-meeting each other under romantic circumstances?

Basically I met this guy like 3yrs ago, we became friends on fb, but never interacted. Then like 2 wks ago I came across his dating profile, liked it and discovered he liked mine too. Then last Thursday he sends me a message telling me I'm beautiful and that he wants to get to know me.

And now you're telling me the relationship may have a paternal vibe to it..that's kind of weird lol.

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posted March 03, 2015 08:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for babybull82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Draconic:

Sidereal:

I have no idea how to read a sidereal chart, but now I'm very intrigued. @Aubyanne, when you feel like it I'd love if you can tell me if this has been an ongoing thing for us. I'm very amazed by what I'm reading so far. Thanks so much for taking the time to look into it.

Sidenote on the draconic: His sun in Gemini..that is crazy because for the longest time I thought he WAS a Gemini, but when I discovered he was a Taurus I was very surprised.

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posted March 03, 2015 09:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The romantic intensity clearly stems from a dual drVENUS conjunct drPLUTO. That's a part of your soul history as well, from the Draco synastry.

It may be the outstanding karma is a remnant from a series of lifelines in which he was in a position of authority over you; given the MOON link, it seems personal rather than professional, hence, paternal.

Could you post the Fagan/Bradley sidereal? That's the Heliocentric. Different type of chart which isn't needed right here -- or yet.

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posted March 03, 2015 09:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Something that also grabbed me is your mutual SNODE conjunct JUNO. You both carry marital karma, though it doesn't seem to be present in tropical -- only Draconic -- synastry.

So the lifelines in which you were spouses doesn't seem to be the holdover.

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posted March 03, 2015 11:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for babybull82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is this the correct one?

So what you were saying earlier, does that mean that in a past lifeline we were spouses but in this instance that's not our reason for coming together?

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posted March 04, 2015 04:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Correct. And, yep! That's sidereal.

There's nothing indicating a marital karma outside of his SNODE-JUNO being conjunct your ASC. It's more that you both carry a marital with you, but not with each other.

I do especially like the SAG drVENUS-drPLUTO being conjunct your sJUNO-sSNODE on his sSATURN. The only 'karma' you may be carrying is issues with former abuses of power (SATURN) which likely impacted the equality in the relationship.

Once you sort out the major Saturnine karmic issues, you might easily fall back into a committed relationship. It's going to take work, though. SATURN is never easy, but it is rewarding.

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posted March 04, 2015 08:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for babybull82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you!

So how would one try to correct that?

So we'd have to deal with the debt first before we could be together or we'll get together in order to start trying to work out or debt?

Now you've got me curious about looking into the debt me & my ex (my children's father) may have. We were together for almost 7yrs & it wasn't plesant & unfortunately things were not equal in our relationship as far as pulling each other's weight.

I may make a thread about that later.

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posted March 05, 2015 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ueharaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
ueharaa,

For me, 'past life connexion' implies outstanding debt from single lifeline, rather than soul connexion. I DO agree that MOON conjunct SATURN denotes an outstanding debt requiring resolution in the present.

But ASC/DSC overlaying the NODES? That's deeper. That's soul-based. These are not bonds created in a single lifeline with an unresolved debt. This is a history. A soul history. Typically, soul family.

If there's enough resonance (such as in Aurora's case) there can be evidence of being from the same Oversoul.

Here, I get the sense of Soulmates with strong familial dynamics who have carried this pattern many, many times. Either by choice or for specific purpose.

Depending upon the overall synastry, (as well as Draco and sidereal) this either occurred a few times or has become a pattern that requires breaking and resolution.

'Past life connexion' is far too singular when some of these dynamics present.


Thank you Aubyanne, this clarified a lot of things for me. I guess I never really made the difference between karma that is owed from a single lifeline and then the much deeper soul connection that stems from many lifelines. And that was a mistake I made not to consider those.

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posted March 08, 2015 08:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for babybull82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Aubyanne

Tell me why I may have already messed this up lol Have barely started talking and I said one thing and now he's gone ghost! Hopefully he'll be back..now I'm starting to re-think if I even want to go down this road if it's already like this in the beginning.

But I read that vertex/Saturn in synastry is binding *sigh* I don't want to be stuck obsessing over this guy for forever after barely talking to him ugh..

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