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unforgiven_soul
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posted March 14, 2015 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for unforgiven_soul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lately I read a lot about IC, a very personal angle of our chart. It represents birth and death, beginnings and endings, our home, roots, family, childhood. It's our deepest spot and the most underated I think. Concerning our relationships, I always examined the AC/DC axis but I start to believe that this axis is mostly about our selves and the others, us and the hook up. I checked some authors and discovered that statistics show more connections in long term couples on the IC/MC axis than the AC/DC axis, and I think it makes sense, due to the fact that IC feels like home (you wanna create a home/family with someone), and MC is the spot where someone can help us achieve our goals (the outer world and career). Any experiences on synastry and your/his/her IC/MC axis? It would be great to share stories.

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posted March 14, 2015 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree. Well actually both axis are important. A little bit of attraction is needed to to even want to become a couple, ut once you take that step, the IC-MC axis is very important (well even before actually), and no amount of desire, attraction, romantic love can really bridge the gap when your lifepaths (in earthly terms) are completely at odds.

(this might also be extremely significant for people who have planets on the IC or MC natally, especially if those happen to be personal planets and or planets ruling relationship houses)

Anyway did you read this?

http://theinnerwheel.com/2009/09/29/synastry-studies-the-m-c-i-c-part-one/
http://theinnerwheel.com/2009/10/13/synastry-studies-the-mcic-part-two-aspects-and-inter-aspects/

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posted March 14, 2015 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for unforgiven_soul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I agree. Well actually both axis are important. A little bit of attraction is needed to to even want to become a couple, ut once you take that step, the IC-MC axis is very important (well even before actually), and no amount of desire, attraction, romantic love can really bridge the gap when your lifepaths (in earthly terms) are completely at odds.

(this might also be extremely significant for people who have planets on the IC or MC natally, especially if those happen to be personal planets and or planets ruling relationship houses)

Anyway did you read this?

http://theinnerwheel.com/2009/09/29/synastry-studies-the-m-c-i-c-part-one/
http://theinnerwheel.com/2009/10/13/synastry-studies-the-mcic-part-two-aspect s-and-inter-aspects/


Yeap, this was the best article so far, but also WIX had some info and this was good too:
http://www.angelfire.com/ca2/rosemurray/karmlink.html

Of course AC/DC axis is also important, but maybe IC/MC gives the stability it's needed.

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posted March 14, 2015 08:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peony     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I've had the experience with my Moon and Venus not conjunct the IC, but seven degrees away, and even then, the first day we spent together, he felt like home and family. I've heard other people say the same thing.

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posted March 14, 2015 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peluches     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by peony:
Yes, I've had the experience with my Moon and Venus not conjunct the IC, but seven degrees away, and even then, the first day we spent together, he felt like home and family. I've heard other people say the same thing.

Oh, so the planet person feels it ... ?

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posted March 15, 2015 01:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for unforgiven_soul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by peony:
Yes, I've had the experience with my Moon and Venus not conjunct the IC, but seven degrees away, and even then, the first day we spent together, he felt like home and family. I've heard other people say the same thing.

Yeah, I have it too with my bf. His Moon, Part of Fortune and Chiron conjunct my IC in Gemini and his Mercury conjuncts my MC. From our first meeting we felt like family and always spent time mostly at home, I really feel I wanna create a home with him. Whenever we go out I feel like there's no one around us, we forget about the rest of the world. Concerning the Mercury on MC, I love his ideas and way of thinking, he can be my guide and mentor for my goals. On the other side my AC conjuncts his IC. Peony I think the feeling still exists as long as it's on the 4th house, no matter the degrees.

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posted March 15, 2015 01:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for unforgiven_soul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Peluches:
Oh, so the planet person feels it ... ?

Both feel it, but the angle person very intense.

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posted March 15, 2015 01:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you haven't shared it yet, Ceri, the way you explained the IC to me was the first time I REALLY grokked it.

Whenever the IC is involved in synastry, it IS a very potent tie, given the privacy and instinctual nature of it. Deeply personal.

I tend to draw men with their MOON and ASC here. Not shocking. Rather fitting, my MOON is seated on my husband's, too.

My Guardian's ASC is on mine, and my MOON is on my ex-Twin's (along with his MOON on mine, albeit widely).

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posted March 15, 2015 01:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus2tinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scorpio Moon conjunct IC (me)

Very sweet. I've said before, time slowed down around him.

Scorpio Saturn conjunct IC (me)

Painful. Sexy. The realization and restriction of dreams. This is also a Saturn Moon opposition aspect...

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posted March 15, 2015 03:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for unforgiven_soul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
If you haven't shared it yet, Ceri, the way you explained the IC to me was the first time I REALLY grokked it.

Whenever the IC is involved in synastry, it IS a very potent tie, given the privacy and instinctual nature of it. Deeply personal.

I tend to draw men with their MOON and ASC here. Not shocking. Rather fitting, my MOON is seated on my husband's, too.

My Guardian's ASC is on mine, and my MOON is on my ex-Twin's (along with his MOON on mine, albeit widely).


How do you feel Aubyanne on your part? You 're the planet person so that's interesting to hear.

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posted March 17, 2015 01:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for geminigal2805     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My husband's IC conjuncts my NN and Asc. It is our tightest conjunction in synastry.
My IC sits on his pluto( his 8th house ruler) and desc.


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posted March 17, 2015 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
If you haven't shared it yet, Ceri, the way you explained the IC to me was the first time I REALLY grokked it.

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Do you mean this here?

You could picture the chart with the houses-wheel as an image of the day with the Sun making his circle.

When the Sun is rising, it will be on the ASC (actually this means that if we have planets in the 1st house, they are still in the dark, because they are BEFORE The rising of the sun, as the sun moves from ASC to MC to DC to IC; it also explains why planets in the 1st house are not always very conscious, but very instinctual).

However, if the Sun is high up in the sky, it will be at the MC.

Now, when the Sun has reached the IC it is midnight.
Midnight. What does this word, that time of day trigger inside you? What characteristic does this time have?
It is dark outside, everyone is asleep, hopefully you, too, so then this is the time where the unconsciousness reigns, the deeper layers of your soul through your dreams.

Or you may be awake, but chances are high, you are the only one. You are alone with yourself, without any distractions of the day. You come face to face with yourself, the naked you. And this time of the day feels "strange"; even bio-chemical something changes. The parasympathetic nervous system takes over from the sympatheic nervous system of the day.
It makes you calm down and "draws you inside yourself" so to speak.

If you`re not alone at that time, chances are also good, that you might have amazing sex or deep profound conversations that take a very private intimate turn.
Often you don´t want to know about that anymore in the next morning, because you have been so naked at that time (emotionally and physically maybe).


However, deep in the night,w hen the Sun is on the IC (and not seen!), you will only let those people in, who are real close to you. You won`t get a visit by the postman or the neighbour at that time of night.
No superficial contacts

You can see it like this, The Sun has disappeared, and the Moon reigns. Moon as the ruling planet of the 4th house, which begins with the IC!
And Moon represents emotions, feelings, not like the romantic ones, which are often a "Venus-thing", a DC-thing (about 7 p.m, when you start meeting your friends and potential lovers).
No, I`m talking of emotions in the sense of really touching you inside your soul.
In that respect Moon and IC are pretty much the same.

Also Robert Blashke stated that the closest soulmates will always ALWAYS without exception have either conjunctions or solstice-conjunctions to their IC.


As the lowest point in your chart (on the invisible side of the earth, representing midnight actually) the IC also represents your deepest core, your soul. Your naked (and most vulnerable) essence.

From there it is only a little step to arrive at the conclusion that it represents to home; as home is being thought to be the place where you can be yourself (of course we all know that not all "homes" will allow that). But as a toddler you couldn´t do anything else but expressing your instinctive needs and your "naked soul". That is the 4th house.
And at the end of your life you return to that "nakedness", as the upcoming moment of death is approaching and this awareness of your mortality will bring you very close to who you really are. Your most primal fears and emotions.
the 8th house is also about these primal experiences, but in regard to other people, how you relate to them, how your own emotional needs merge with theirs.

In the 4th house you are basically "alone" with your emotional core. But if you let someone in there, there can be a feeling of total merging on a soullevel.
Or you might dislike the other person, as they get "under your skin" and you might not want them there.


The IC is the core of your soul, your very essence. There`s nothing deeper in yours oul than the IC. And that is probably the reason it`s often hidden; it`s such a vulnerable point, that people tend to not show it too easily; sometimes they don´t even look there themselves! If you let someone come in there and he violates that sensitive core of you, this could have very destructive consequences for you. On the other hand someone who touches your IC and loves you for that, for your core, can make you feel like you finally have come home.
Blashke sais that in soulmate relationships there are ALWAYS conjunctions or solstice -conjunctions of one`s planets to the IC of the partner. PErsonally I have noticed he is right, and even more so, in most cases the IC or ruler of IC connects to the ruler of the other angles, like DC-ruler conjunct IC for example.
Hmm, let`s put it this way, at the IC you`re naked, completely stripped bare (your soul is at least), defenceless (this is actually the place in your soul you try to protect by building walls and high defenses), it`s the most receptive point, and from own experience I can say you will never forget the man that touches you so deep inside.

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