posted March 14, 2015 02:21 PM            

I know I dissected the charts already, but I`d like to have your fresh eyes on this as well and your thoughts.

Just this morning waking up I remembered that first meeting, and how back then I had been thinking with a deep internal sigh of relief: "Finally someone who is NOT a soulmate-something".

I must explain that. While the soulrecognition was tremendous for me (and I suppose for him as well, as there would have been no other reason for him to focus on me so much, that it was almost rude to the other girls present), like you wrote in the other thread, like I temporarily forgot, but the moment our eyes met, the knowledge and recognition was back again, that was not what I meant with the sigh of relief, but actually it felt so un-karmic.
Usually there is that heavy exhausting, very deep yes, but also draining feeling when something karmic is going on, and that was totally absent. Just the joy of seeing him (again).

Curiously I eventually did remember one or two past life lines in spotlights (but rare ones) but whereas in other cases these recalls left my heart bleeding (literally) and crying and shaken by emotional upheaval and pain, even recalling him and me dying together, did not hold any horror nor pain for me. Hey, at least we were together. It just never felt painful.

The pain that of course I have felt has everything to do with my own personal make up, my insecurities and yes, my Ego, more so my expectations and the fact that I ams tubborn enough to demand of the universe to make things the way I WANT, and if that does not happen, well my 1st house Sun gets a little ****** .

But it has all to do with that, pain of forcing things as my little mind wants them to be, neatly in boxes, pain of denial has also been a big one.

But it never has been spiritual pain, do you know what I mean?

It`s always just temporary.

posted March 14, 2015 02:26 PM            

As if I knew it!

He has been silent on his facebook for weeks and weeks, but of course when I am talking about him with that intense feeling of affection and "smilingness" in my heart, he has to post at the same time, right?

It`s been like that ever since last june, and seems it hasn`t changed.

posted March 14, 2015 06:42 PM            

Well, let's start with über basics. What's clustering around the NODES, if anything? Even sharing the signs? What are within 1° of conjunction to either? What, if anything, are squaring each axis?

Getting the general sense of things on the microcosmic level (tropical) when viewed macrocosmically (the Nodal axis) can help answer the 'why here if not now?' or 'why now if not here?' conundrum.

It's becoming clear to me that if Reunion isn't the ultimate goal in this present lifeline, Twins are still going to buzz around each other. No matter where we go and what we do, our siblings are with us lifelong (in theory). They're the ties that time nor distance changes or breaks -- only trauma and --

OH MY GOD TISIPHONE!

CRIMES AGAINST KIN!

THAT's why she's appearing in Soulmate synastries! The ONLY thing which can so severely disrupt a sibling bond is trauma -- the active, conscious choice to 'disown' one another. And yet, they are still our sibling. Death cannot break the bond, either, as they are always our kin.

Expand this understanding to multidimensional consciousness (as I'll definitely delve into more with CUPIDO (h40) later) and we can see why the GREATEST crime, punishable by TISIPHONE, which further binds the victim and 'offender' is that which is committed against members of our soul-family.

I don't think this must always have led to death, or murder, but in those cases, the wound will be exceptionally great and the healing required heftier than normal. These might be the foundational bases of lifelong restitutive associations: marriages and long-term relationships.

posted March 15, 2015 08:35 AM            

I find it interesting while our Tisiphones are EXACT square each other (his on 23 Aries, mine on 23 Cancer), I don`t really have anything on 23 Aries. Chiron is on 20 Aries, however that seems too wide for my taste, at least it does not look "acute", more sort of a subtly resonance.

My Tisiphone is exact on my own Destinn and 2 degrees off my Eros, but again, nothing too close in his chart to that degree. Though his Venus on almost 26 Capricorn is weakly opposing it.

It is sort of interesting how we have more of a very widish and hence weak synastric configuration with it. Does not look that dramatic to me.

However turning to the composite things change a little.

our composite Moon is on 22°52 Capricorn and therefore opposing my natal Tisiphone within a degree or so.

composite Mars (ruler of the South Node!) is opposing his natal Tisiphone exactly as well.

posted March 15, 2015 08:58 AM            

opposite his TISIPHONE (1°16 - 1°01)
square my TISIPHONE (1°03 - 0°49)

Interestingly his ANTEROS is in orb for being trine my PSYCHE (1°42), while his Psyche is just out of orb, even though it conjuncts mine closely. lol

his ANTEROS also squares my EROS (1°21)

along with his TISIPHONE sextile my PSYCHE (0°40), and almost square my EROS but out of orb already (2°22)

my TISIPHONE out of orb for a boring quinkunx with his PSYCHE (2°04)

However SAPPHO
my SAPPHO on the contrascion of his EROS (0°26) (his own TISIPHONE almost on the antiscion of his EROS but just out of orb).
(and my Sappho also squares my own Eros with a degree or so).

my SAPPHO trines my own PSYCHE (1°56) but out of orb for trining his PSYCHE (3°07)

So I think it really leaves us with the Anteros-Sappho conjunction on 23 Libra, being opposed by his Tisiphone and squared by mine.

"23° CHANTICLEER SALUTES THE RISING SUN WITH EXUBERANT TONES.

Capacity for self-refreshment at the inner sources of ever-reviewed life. Anticipation of opportunity. Security in Self."

While his TISIPHONE
24° A WINDOW CURTAIN BLOWN INWARD, SHAPED AS A CORNUCOPIA.

Good fortune attending upon the putting forth of effort. Rush of spiritual forces into the conscious ego. Protection.

and my Tisiphone
24° WOMAN AND TWO MEN CASTAWAYS ON A SOUTH SEAS ISLAND.

The three "souls" in man — actional, emotional, mental — "exiled" in the body. Potential fulfillment. Sense of being lost in life.

EDIT:
So let`s see since he has a natal opposition of TISIPHONE and ANTEROS (1°01) and both are square or almost square my EROS that puts a few planets in my natal chart onto the midpoint of his TISIPHONE/ANTEROS

his tisiphone/Anteros 22°51 Cancer

my Tisiphone 23°09 Cancer
my DESTINN 23°18 Cancer
my EROS 20°59 Cancer (too wide)
my Vertex 21°31 Cancer
my Sun/Moon-mp 21°31 Capricorn

posted March 15, 2015 09:30 AM            

my true PRIAPUS conjunct his NN (2°35)
my true BML conjunct his SN (2°35)
- the true versions are always an axis after all

since we have a true BML-BML opposition (0°24), it means that first of all our respective BML is conjunct each other`s true PRIAPUS, but it also means that natally his true PRIAPUS is conjunct his N and his true BML Is on his NN.
Well his natural Priapus (h22) is also on his SN, and even more exactly (0°36).

What falls onto his own SN from his natal chart is his Eros/Psyche-mp on 1°47 Pisces, conjunct his SN by 0°25.

However, my BML`s are clearly out of orb for conjuncting that, true BML being on 28°37 Aquarius. Nevertheless it`s interesting. his Eros/Psyche-mp on his SN. Well since both are receptive it woul dneed a planet or asteroid to activate I guess (his Priapus?), but even then it is no pressing matter, configured with the SN.

I do have a slightly different view than you do on the SN. To me it represents not so much a "Get aways from this as soon as possible"shout, but more a "Integrate this naturally, as it is what you already have, put it into your toolbox where it belongs, but don`t get so mesmerized by the shiny little sparkling thing, that you forget where you are really meant to go. Use it for the way to get there, but don`t get caught up in it."

This to me is especially true, if I find that the Draco of the object on the SN will have strong aspects to the tropical chart (then it is still sort of an ongoing something I think.)

this is of no consequence in this instance though (but we have others where it becomes important, possibly).

Staying with LIlith/Priapus.
It is interesting to me that his natural Lilith/Priapus-mp is conjunct my North Node by just 0°07°
ESPECIALLY in light of the loose interaction of the true version on his nodal axis (putting my true Priapus onto his North NOde - it`s my time to surrender this time around? Drat! and I was so glad to find that it was my true Lilith conjunct his Priapus. ).

posted March 15, 2015 11:16 AM            

I usually would not even consider those, if they were not different manifestations of the same goddess, and if there was not an interesting resonance with our natals, as

my KAALI loosely conjuncts my SN (2°38)
his PARVATI loosely conjuncts his SN (1°20)

I think it`s time talking about fixed stars as well.

his NN is 1°22 Virgo and by progressions as of now 29°33 Leo, having become direct in 2012.
Curiously in his chart Regulus is on 29°33 Leo as well, so as we speak his NN is aligned PRECISELY with Regulus.

Also it means he has been "picking up" my PARVATI and true PRIAPUS which are both at 28°37 and 28°33 Leo respectively.
his SN on 1°22 Pisces is also loosely configured with Formalhaut on about 2-3 Pisces, which is not just a Royal star, but I have seen it associated with Jesus Christ as well. Which I just mention cause it is not lost on me that we first met after he played Jesus on stage. lol

From my perspective, my true North Node is on 10°09 SAg, SN on 10°09 Gemini. which are configured with ANTARES (9°25 Sag) and ALDEBARAN (9°27 Gemini) respectively.
my Neptune on 9°56 SAg is even more closely aligned ANTARES.
By progression my pr NN has reached 8°35 Sag past ANTARES and is on its way of picking up my own Atlantis on 8°15 Sag, and some others.

Nevertheless so I was talking about Kaali-Parvati, and this of course brings me to Rudra-Siva-as well. (BTW his KAALI is even more closely conjunct my ASC with about 15 minutes of orb or so).

his KAALI roughly on my NN (but closely on my ASC and let`s not forget, Mars. lol) is squared by my RUDRA on 8°14 Virgo (1°28)

my PARVATI quinkunx his SIVA (0°55).
Now well it is "only" a quinkunx, but for someone like him, with North Node on 1° Virgo, the waxing quinkunx must have an individual meaning.
It brings his Draco SIVA to conjunct my tropical PARVATI at least (2°07)

There is also an asteroid configured with my SN, it`s his ISIS on 9°28 Gemini conjunbct my SN (0°42) and just 2 mintues of ALDEBARAN.

Well this ISIS of his is quinkunx my ISIS-OSIRIS_conjunction with a bit of 1-2 degree orb, but his DRACO ISIS is conjunct my tropical ISIS (0°27) and my tropical OSIRIS (0°15), his ISIS being on 8°05 Capricorn. It is also just 2 degrees off my Venus.

as for my North Node;apart from the widish one to KAALI it is
conjunct his Mercury (0°47)
conjunct his MUSA (0°57)

and maybe some others I just don`t know as of now. lol

(I do know that his Penelope/Odysseus-mp falls there as well, which I find interesting as i have nataly a Penelope-Odysseus-opposition, and his Odysseus-Valentine-conjunction falls onto my Penelope on my 12th house cusp)

Interestingly in our composite the nodal axis seems to be clearly tilted to the North Node.
Well even Mars, ruler of the South Node, is conjunct the NN (2°22) and actually Mars is on SPICA (0°23)

You already know that we have AMOR (0°11), CAMELOT (0°46) and 763 CUPIDO (0°01) on our composite NN.

There is nothing really I know of on the SN, well except my natal Chiron.
However the composite NN along with Amor, Cupido, Camelot falls onto HIS Pluto most notably, and also conjunct his AMBROSIA by about 3 degrees (a bit wide I know), and his ANTEROS by 2 degrees, and well yes, my DNA is right there as well, exact on the NN. and of course that means my DNA-MUSA-SAPPHO is conjoined with his Pluto-ANTEROS.
all from 20-23 Libra.

Interestingly when we first met the alignments seemed to be tilted to our respective NORTH Nodes rather than in favour of the south nodes.

Fmc ASC conjunct my North Node (0°58)
FMC Saturn conjunct his North Node (0°49)

posted March 15, 2015 11:43 AM            

* it is too far off, but you can add VALENTINE to the love-fest in my chart. lol

VALENTINE 27°32 Scorpio
LIEBE 0°08 Sag
AMOR 2°08 Sag

(mp of this is on 29°50 SCorpio so you could say LIebe is on my Amor/Valentine-mp. lol)

it also means that his nodal axis intersects my natal AMOR-AMBROSIA-opposition.

to MY NN
-----------
his EROS (1°49)
his ASTARTE (1°21)*
his AMOR (1°07)
his Jupiter (0°00)
his Mars (0°56)

*ASTARTE is interesting also because my own ASTARTE conjuncts my SN exact, and squares my ISHTAR (another emanation of her) which is on his EROS on my name in his chart, oposing his name in his chart, too. lol

This is especially interesting as we have a widish conjunction of ADONIS to ADONIS from 24 to 27 Libra.

Naturally that means some sort of aspect has to resurface in the composite. Of course it is a square. It is ALWAYS a square, isn`t it?

ASTARTE on 24 cancer to ADONIS on 25 Libra

posted March 15, 2015 03:05 PM            

his MUSA conjunct my North Node, and also Neptune

my MUSA conjunct my DNA and SAPPHO falling onto his Pluto-ANTEROS

composite MUSA conjunct MC and opposing EROS-PRIAPUS-DIONYSOS on the IC.

composte SAPPHO conjoined with Mercury and Neptune (and Boda= wedding, curiously)*.
(and qinkunx Eros-Priapus-Dionysos)

Well I guess the question is who is going to whose muse?

*
there is a triple conjunction on 18 Sag in the composite

Mercury: 17°13 Sag
SAPPHO 17°48 Sag
BODA 17°50 Sag

While Sappho and Boda seem like very unlikely "companions", I suppose having them conjunct so exactly, might mean *something*

Sabian is:
18° ON THE HOT BEACH CHILDREN PLAY, PROTECTED BY SUNBONNETS
#

It`s another of those freaky compospite Sabians that mention child/ children.

tracing it back to the natal, his BODA is a skipped step for him, and being exactly conjunct my AMOR (0°07) and Liebe and opposing my AMBROSIA exact as well.

His BODA is ALSO conjoined with IRELAND on 3 Sag, and my own IRELAND is on 5 Sag - so I guess that should be kept in the back of my mind.

By BODA is more boring. it is on 3 Cap conjunct VESTA, and actually the Draco Boda is conjunct his natal Tisiphone exact. So maybe not THAT boring.
It is also alignd with my Nymphe, Stonehenge, Knight and Sindbad and oh yes right, Tristan, which squares Isolda exact from 3 Cap to 3 Aries.

But then in the composite I see also

BRIEDE 20 Cap
Moon 23 Cap
GROOM 26 Cap

oh yeah, the joy, Moon on their midpoint, and BRIEDE very obviously is a skipped step to our composite NN.

Okay tracing it back to the natals I find

my GROOM on 11 Sag conjunct my NN

his GROOM on 10 Pisces clearly being a skipped step for my NN

hmmm

how did I end up checking those now again?

EDIT
Even though of no relevance in terms of the nodal axis, we do have a conjunction of his LINK to my LINK-INTERKOSMOS (0°07 - 0°45)

and this falls onto his Venus and opposes his Juno

my LINK - his Venus 0°10
my LINK - his JUNO 1°54
my INTERKOSMOS - his Venus 1°02
my INTERKOSMOS - his JUNO 2°46

it puts LINK near GROOM in the composite. (0°21)

plus composite LINK, his LINK, my LINK, his Venus are all on the same Sabian degree, and i happen to like that one.

26° RADIANT SPRITE DANCES UPON THE MIST OF A WATERFALL.

posted March 16, 2015 03:11 PM            

we both have North Node on a fixed star. Him on REGULUS, me on ANTARES

SN-conjunctions
------------------
my true Lilith loosely conjunct his SN
his ISIS conjunct my SN*

NN-conjunctions
------------------
my true Priapus loosely conjunct his NN
my Parvati loosely conjunct his NN
his Kaali loosely conjunct my NN
his Mercury*-Musa* conjunct my NN

skipped steps
--------------
squares to his nodal axis:
my Ambrosia*, Mars, Amor*, Liebe, Medea, Spark*

squares to my nodal axis:
his Mars, Jupiter*, Amor*, Eros, Groom*, Astarte

Spark is out of orb (3°27)

composite
--------------
no conjunctions to SN

Amor*, Cupido*, Camelot*, Mars conjunct NN

Moon and Venus widely square the Nodes
Briede* square the Nodes, so does Spark (being conjunct MOon exact)

first meeting chart
----------------------
no conjunctions to SN

Chiron conjunct NN exact
Neptune conjunct NN

Ambrosia-Union square the nodal axis
Alecto square the nodal axis exact
(and Megaira sits exact on the DESC on 9 Gemini, right on his n ISIS, my n SN and our composite Jupiter and just one degree off composite Tisiphone which happens to be opposite natural Lilith, oh and strangley enough first meetinc hart Lilith was on 5 Sag, conj. composite Lilith on 8 Sag, albeit widish )

posted March 16, 2015 04:00 PM            

I am talking about the first meeting chart.
I never checked those before but there was

ISOLDA 19°11 Leo
TRISTAN 18°12 Leo
SN 21°51 Leo
(8th house)

Granted, not a close aspect to the SN, but still flabbergasting enough.

ALECTO on 21°29 Taurus in 5th house, might be too far off for the square to Isolda-Tristan, however she certainly squares the nodal axis rather tight.y

What`s Alecto`s deal, Auby?

I noticed that I have her on 23 Pisces in my chart exactly trine DESTINN and TISIPHONE on 23 Cancer, and possibly trine EROS on 21 cancer, and Mr Sag`s Uranus-NEMESIS on 23 and 21 Scorpio completes that triangle.

Not to mention that my aLECTO conjuncts his TRISTAN-ASC.

his ALECTO on his SN trines my Uranus as well, and our Union-conjunction, but not Tristan or Isolda.

Naturally Alecto trines Uranus in the composite as well and exactly, with Uranus being the chartruler and placed near the MC, most elevated planet.

But yeah no clue what she is about.

EDIT
Oh and while we are talking about the "doomed lovers" theme.

ISOLDA is conjunct my name in his chart (0°32) and conjunct GROOM aswell, and all of this squares my nodal axis, so his Isolda-Ceri-conjunction (also falling onto his Eros) seems to be a skipped step to my node

One of his names is also square TRISTAN in his chart.

well TRISTAN is not a skipped step for his NN from my chart, however it is trine his NN.

it is also too far off for a conjunction to his name in my chart (10 degrees), but weirdly the midpoing of that far off Tristan-Mr Sag falls right onto my Isis-Osiris-conjunction. and sextile his Isolda-Ceri.

In the first meeting chart CERI was conjunct his Isolda-Ceri-Eros and both our pr Psyches.

his name was on the DESC squaring all of this.