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Knowflake

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posted March 14, 2015 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I came up with an idea of creating persona charts for romance house cusps and comparing them to own or someone else's natal/personas. Wanna play with me? If you want to see a persona of whatever non-angular house you go to...

methods: Pullen/Astrology -> small format natal chart wheel

You can find there your cusp locations, exact to the second. Then you dig for the right date and time.

I started with my 5th house which is probably the most important house in my chart, also in terms of romance (Venus, DSC ruler, 5th house ruler) which will be our focus here. Its cusp is in Capricorn. Now the persona.


Sun-Moon conjunction in Cap, Saturn-Venus and Saturn-IC, yaaay. As if I wasn't Saturnian enough. Throw Neptune and Uranus in the mix and you have my boringly serious but at the same time rather unusual and idealistic approach. 3rd house, hmm. Perhaps it shows that I think and talk about this stuff way more than I do something (which is currently nothing and has been for the last 3 years). Newly born Scorpio ASC with unaspected Pluto water singleton in the 1st contributes to the seriousness and expects an intense connection. Correct. Venus (DSC an 8th house ruler), Mars and Mercury in Sagittarius, hell yeah. If I'm with someone someday it'll be a foreigner for 99%. 5th house ruler conjunct the 9th house ruler and trine angular Jupiter which is my Sag bunch's dispositor seems to support this pattern. Their presence in the 2nd fuels my need for stability. Chiron conjunct Ambrosia and Priapus in the 9th. Someone abroad will pour at me love elixir mixed with an aphrodisiac? Psyche conjunct Cupido exact conjunct Jupiter, opposite Amor and quincunx Juno. Isn't it cute??? *sniffs* It smells like my alien lover. PoF on ASC...No luck so far but we'll see. IC ruler conjunct Moon, this one is cute too. It may be Uranus but it's in Cap and Saturn is conjunct IC so the chaos is tamed. Alma-Priapus-Pluto grand trine, Eros in the 4th conjunct IC - the need for sex to be soulful? I don't know what IC ruler+MC ruler means, any idea? It's very interesting that all the planets are located in the eastern hemisphere. The internet says it indicates indepencence, strong will, individualism, go-getting. Well, in the past I did go and tried to get which was a bad idea. I've grown to own being single, I've become wiser and more self-aware and now you're the freak you know


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posted March 14, 2015 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Now my 5th house persona to my natal cause there are some interesting aspects.

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Jupiters on angles make me think of foreigners & foreign lands again. The Leo Jupiter in the 9th: "go look for Chiron abroad, he has Ambrosia candies for you". Or maybe since it's on the MC it says I'm more likely to fall for a celeb than a "real man" Vertex-MC isn't helping. Hm, there's also an option that if I have a bf he'll be a celeb *flies away to lalaland* Venus-IC and Moon-ASC seem to point to the importance of an emotional connection. Venus-Saturn conjunction may be strengthening my wider natal conjunction. Mars, the 8th house ruler on the 8th cusp, me likely. I also like Mercury conjunct Mercury, perhaps I'm not delusional when it comes to what I think I want and need Amor-Juno conjunct Mars...Love and commitment triggering the desire for a conjunction?

The similarties between the charts I noticed:
Mars in the 2nd - Taurus Mars
Mars in Sagittarius - Mars in the 9th
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Venus in the 2nd - Libra 2nd house -
Venus-Saturn
Pisces 5th house - Neptune in the 5th
Sun conjunct 5th house ruler
Moon in Capricorn - Moon square Saturn
3rd house ruler in the 3rd
Pluto water singleton
Mercury conjunct Mercury
5th house ruler in Capricorn
8th house ruler in the 2nd - 8th house ruler in Taurus
IC in Aquarius - Uranus in the 4th
Juno in the 4th
bla bla

Is it me or are they quite compatible?


Don't quote this chart please.

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Knowflake

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posted March 14, 2015 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"We cannot process your posting, because you have exceeded the maximum number of images allowed per post. The current maximum is 8."

Yeah, sure -_- This is why I chopped it.

This post would be incomplete if I didn't show you the synastry between the cusp and the ruler!
*drums*

Scorpio ASC conjunct MC, Plutos unaspected, hm. Sag ASC -> Jupiter conjunct MC, throw in Vertex. If that doesn't mean my weirdmate would be at least semi-famous then it must mean I will...Who wants an autograph? IC conjunct Moon and Venus, Venus conjunct Eros and Juno. Yeah, doomed to value an emotional connection. I'm tired, I'm done. For now


If you got to this point *standing ovation* - I don't know if I was any close to figuring it out but I hope you were entertained at least, like I was. Your inputs will be appreciated.

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posted March 14, 2015 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting idea.

I followed your example. Turns out my 5th house cusp persona chart has earthy luminaries (Taurus and Virgo), while Venus and Mars are in gemini and Pisces, squaring each other.

Funny enough its ASC is on 25 Cancer, and that means conjunct Mr Sag`s Juno by one degree and the cusps DESC conjuncts his Venus exactly.

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posted March 14, 2015 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So that is mine. 5th house ruler Venus involved in a grand cross. Looks overly idealistic dreamy and possibly delusional to me.


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posted March 14, 2015 03:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
btw I love the Cupid-Psyche-conjunction in your persona chart. You can run but you can`t hide.

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posted March 14, 2015 06:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Heck, I've gotta try this.

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posted March 15, 2015 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
btw I love the Cupid-Psyche-conjunction in your persona chart. You can run but you can`t hide.


I'll leave my tower in a few years and we'll see if he manages to catch me

Venus in a grand cross and mystic rectangle, wow. Neptune is involved in both, it's in the 5th and conjunct Vertex...Yes, it does look very dreamy and idealistic. Venus trine Pluto compliments your natal square. The 5th and 8th house rulers in the 4th, DSC ruler in Cancer in the 12th, ASC in Cancer. This probably shows your cozy underground bunker that protected you from potential suitors The Mercury->Pluto<-Mars yod is like a finger pointing to it. "I'm down here and I'm not letting you in, go home".

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Originally posted by Lotis White:
Heck, I've gotta try this.

You forgot to remind us about secondary houses Actually, I think I'll check them.

I just realized I forgot to include Anteros. It's in Scorpio exactly square Eros

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posted March 15, 2015 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peluches     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yay, something new to try ! Thanks Cappy

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posted March 15, 2015 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Episode 2: 8th house persona

Ceri, your 5th house and my 8th should hang out

Saturn, the ruler of the DSC and 8th house ruler, in the 8th with NN. Cancer ASC and the Moon trine Pluto. Perfect. Yes, this is a serious business to me. Sex may never happen (daddy blocks) and if it will, it'll happen later in life (daddy delays) and in a serious relationship (daddy is not here to frolic and mommy Luna likes his approach) with my alien lover? (Neptune, Uranus, Juno) Uncle Pluto in the 5th will make sure the deal is real. Daddy together with the planetary heart of the chart, his masterchef friend Sun, creates a yod pointing to the IC, the angular heart. Maybe there's no way but cook it very long? Nephew Mars hides in the 12th and doesn't give a damn. It seems like he could wait for that meal forever. Meanwhile he plays the guitar in his cave:

His Taurus Venus girlfriend is tired of his loner ways but thankfully she has her chihuahua Cupido to keep her company on walks. His cousin Jupiter thinks she should drag Mars out of there, he knows how it feels, he can sympathize with her, he lives in the 2nd house after all, but Saturn advises her to let him be. He's right cause the only thing she'd hear is a variation of:

Mars' best friend Mercury sits, watches and eats popcorn. "Don't worry man, I got your back."

I don't know how it turned into a soap opera

What do you think about a t-square with the ASC, IC and MC rulers?

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posted March 15, 2015 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the interpretation, Cappy.


" Venus trine Pluto compliments your natal square."
Yes, thought so, too.

" This probably shows your cozy underground bunker that protected you from potential suitors"
LOL Yes, I guess so. Makes sense too with Eros in CAncer in 8th house in the natal.

" The Mercury->Pluto<-Mars yod is like a finger pointing to it. "I'm down here and I'm not letting you in, go home"."
I did not even see that Yod. But you are right, and then I notice how Jupiter is opposing that underearth-Pluto, from Aries. Gotta be careful around those fiery people, they might pull me out. And since in Aries, they are probably not even going to ask!

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posted March 15, 2015 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
love the soapopera btw

No clue about the angle rulers other than it looks like important stuff

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posted March 15, 2015 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ay, didn't notice Jupiter is at the release point, almost.

Lilith: Are you sure this is it?
Jupiter: Yes, the map says it's exactly here.
Lilith: Finally! We've been waiting for some long to snatch it!
Jupiter: Shhh, somebody can hear us.
Lilith: Errr, we're in the middle of a forest and it's midnight -_-
Jupiter: Whatever, bring the shovels, we're digging!
~1 hour later~
Lilith: Where the hell is the chest? Are you sure this is THE place?
Jupiter: It HAS to be. Just keep digging.
Lilith: There is also another option. We were scr...
Jupiter: Shhh! Stop being pessimistic, you know it annoys me.
Lilith: Hey...I found something. It looks...like a bunker wall???
Jupiter? What? The treasure is in an underground bunker??? Great! But that could mean...that could mean we're standing above tons of gold! But where would be the entrance?
Lilith: Good question. It must be well hidden. Let's look around.
*1 hour later*
Lilith: We're never gonna find it, they made sure it wouldn't happen.
Jupiter: @#7%^! Let me think. Ummm. Damn. Oh, I know. I'm gonna call Mercury.
Lilith: But we'd have to share the treasue with him. And what if later he brags in the town? We don't want that.
Jupiter: Do you have a better idea? The guy is a freakin' genius and I know he's interested in WW2. I bet he knows something about bunkers.
Lilith: Alright. But tell him he's dead if he tells someone about it.
~30 minutes later~
Mercury: Alright bitcheees, step back, the drill is getting ready. Remember it's a prototype, it could fail but I doubt it. After all I'm a freakin' genius. Special thanks to my sensei Uranus! *puts on his sunglasses and earphones*
Lilith: I can't believe it. He built it for fun? What's next, an atomic bomb?
Jupiter: I wouldn't be surprised. Go, man!
*drilling*
Mercury: Done! Ladies first.
Lilith: In case there's a lethal trap down there, huh?
Mercury: Oh, of course not. Haven't you ever met a gentleman? *grins*
Jupiter: *eyeroll* Don't worry, whimpies, I'll get in first *takes a deep breath and jumps in* Huh...Is it me or does someone live here? Hey guys! You won't...
He feels something on his back. A gun? "Don't make a sound. Turn off the flashlight. Now you're slowly gonna go to the next room. The open door in front of you" says a female voice quietly. He does what he's been told with while trying not to get a heart attack. She closes the door and turns the lights on. "Turn around" she says. Jupiter turns around and sees HER. And her pink toy machine gun. And she sees HIM. So do the birds on her pyjamas. They stare at each other for a minute in dead silence. Not counting the muffled screams of his worried partners in crime.
Jupiter: I didn't mean to...I was looking for something...But I think I found something even better.
Her: I see *smiles* Actually, I think I could use some company. My name's Ceri. Would you like some tea?

And they chased each other with machine guns around the bunker happily ever after.


Btw, IC ruler conjunct Sun. Bunkericious.
Btw2, I forgot to include my Psyche opposite Eros in the script, eh.

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posted March 16, 2015 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
8th house to Mars, the ruler

House's ASC conjunct ruler's MC again O_O How would you interpret it? I'm thinking perhaps this aspects is what I need a lot in a romantic synastry. Add to this the 10th house stuff and it could also mean that I need this house to be touched by planets in my natal (it's even my secondary 5th house). Just no Gemini Moon or Venus pls I noticed here we have Sun in the 10th in one chart and in the 5th house persona there's a Leo MC, hm! 5th-10th milkshake. Anyway, Mars' ASC on the 5th cusp overlay seems to emphasise the importance of this energy, especially since the ruler is on the ASC. And since it's on its own MC with 2 other angular rulers further in the house (Venus additionally the 8th house), 10th house energy seems thirsty indeed. Hey, do you see it? In both charts the DSC ruler is in the 8th :O I'm starting to see a loop. 5th-10th-5th-10th. Influence them somehow, throw in some connections to my DSC ruler, at least some natal Neptune, put a Martian cherry on top (some yummy aspect or 2) and the gates of the 8th house shall open? It kinda makes sense. Thrill me and make me fall in love (5th house), make me feel like we belong together (DSC) and it could last (10th) and I'll lock you in a cage and never let go (8th)

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posted March 16, 2015 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, so that I don't look too self-absorbed let's include someone else this time

My last celeb crush + my 10th house (which is my sencondary 5th house and the house where his 4 personal planets fall...interestingly, the missing personal planet is in my 3rd and my MC is Gemini).

So how does he resonate with my MC on a deeper level?

Intensely, it appears. ASC conjunct ASC (out of sign but still), my MC Scorpio Moon (8th house ruler) on his ASC and Uranus. Looks...electrocuting. MCs in the same sign, his Jupiter and Saturn conjunct mine closely from the 10th. Saturn is particularly good here cause it's a natural ruler of the 10th and it vibes with my natal 5th house. It even trines my Saturn. Pluto-Juno is good here too, it winks at my Scorpio, Pluto and 8th house. Jupiter waves at my ASC. My DSC is conjunct by his Mars which is interesting cause in natal synastry it's my Mars that is on his DSC. The DSC here almost overlays my natal MC, this angle and house must be very sensitive for me for real. Priapus conjunct Sun DW and Vertex conjunct Psyche DW, wow. My Venus conjunct his Venus if 10 degrees count, same house, how dares he My 5th house ruler Mars in the 8th on his NN and Venus square his Pluto also hint at the intensity of my crush. My MC and DSC ruler in the 5th opposite his Moon, this is a strong aspect. My DSC ruler in Taurus, his DSC in Taurus. My Gemini DSC likes his Mars and Sun and my busy Cancer 8th house with Venus trine Scorpio Pluto and the ruler in Scorpio likes his Scorpio and 8th house stuff, his Moon in particular. My Venus opposite Neptune likes his Sun opposite Neptune, 12th house Moon and Pisces IC. Our Moons and Sun in the same sign in the same house...*head explosion* Ok, one last thing: Ceres-Pluto and Ceres-Jupiter which I believe should be noted.

In short, it's good to have more insight into why I had a massive crush on him and still stalk him

When it comes to my MC chart alone, the most notable things seem to be: the interplay of the 5th-7th-8th-10th through rulers and a mystic rectangle with Mercury, Venus, Pluto and Neptune (there'd be another one if we include the Nodes), Venus conjunct SN under 1 and the 2nd-8th axis emphasis.

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posted March 16, 2015 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, my, what a totally juicy thread, Cappy
I'll join asap!

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posted March 16, 2015 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OMG. I generated a synastry between his Mars mars and my MC because his Mars is right on it.

His Mars Mars conjunct my MC MC This is BEAUTIFUL My Venus on his MC, this one is a gem too. Other goodies: Moon conjunct Jupiter, NN conjunct IC, Vertex-Pholus conjunct NN and MC. Double Mars in the 10th. Uranus on the ASC trine Mars an opposite Sum. My MC ruler square his MC ruler, sextile MC and quincunx ASC-Saturn. My Venus still square his Pluto and his Uranus still near my Moon. Mercury conjunct Sun. Venus, his Mars' dispositor, square Mars. MC-licious! How am I supposed to unobsess myself? -_-

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Oh, my, what a totally juicy thread, Cappy
I'll join asap!


Don't keep me waiting for too long, ma cherie

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posted March 18, 2015 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, for me it started with an easy task. Since I'm a full time 8th houser, we are meant to look at this house first. But my Venus was born exactly on the cusp, so my 8th house persona is the same as my Venus persona, there it is, what do you see?:

Since it's my dominant house, I suppose it describes my core nature and life events?

Also, what do you think each house persona should show?

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posted March 23, 2015 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your 8th house cusp is a few minutes further which will make a big difference, my dear. Do it again and I'll tell you what I think.

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Also, what do you think each house persona should show?

I see it as a tour around the house. In a house persona you can take a close look at the interior.
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