posted March 15, 2015 12:55 PM            

I am the sun person and I feel like I'm stuck in a prison from which I CAN escape at anytime but just don't the have strength to do it.

I think this is the worst case I've ever had..but the sad part is I'm not even all that into the person anymore as far as romantic attraction goes..but yet I still stalk their fb, and constantly think about this person. Think he's feeling that way about me? Probably not..but I know there is a light at the end of this tunnel because I know at some point as the planet person I'll lose interest and be free. But how long will that take given this is a zero degree aspect for us..

*internally screaming*

posted March 15, 2015 01:29 PM            

Well I haven't heard from him in a week. I think he got butthurt because he wanted me to do something and I playfully said no, then bam he's gone! All I did was a few hrs later sent him a text asking him where he went and sorry if I offended him. Then I left it at that..I don't chase after men (anymore lol) so he can either pick his feelings up off the floor or stay gone. He's also a Mars in Cancer and I don't do well with cancer placements as I always find some way to offend them and hurt their feelings unintentionally.

posted March 15, 2015 03:11 PM            

In relationships, well, I relate to the stuff you've mentioned: not being able to let go of someone, even if they're bad for me and actually hurt me, etc. Some of it was because I was too submissive, always letting people take advantage of me and not being honest enough with what I truly wanted - afraid I'd lose that person (and in most of these cases, I actually did at the first fight/moment of me finally growing a backbone and setting boundaries - I wasn't used to fighting, so I just bottled stuff up).

What worked for me is sticking to people who have similar aspects in their chart. My closest female friends were very Scorpionic/Plutonian and it still blows me off my feet finding out they've been through the same things as I have. Most of my ex's/love interests/flings/even unrequited were all very Plutonian and I'm finally experiencing the more positive sides of Pluto in a relationship, now that I've finally gotten therapy to deal with childhood issues and dared to be more honest with myself and others. 'Cause that's what Pluto wants: for you to see how you truly feel, underneath the fluff, social conventions and layers of how you SHOULD feel/behave. He wants you to keep looking inside yourself, instead of trying to see past other people's masks/possible hidden motives.

My partner has a very tight Venus square Pluto, which is also a singleton (his only water planet) and conjunct a Scorpio Ascendant. When we have a fight/difference of opinion, yes, he makes me uncomfortable with constantly wanting me to be honest and if with even the smallest thing he suspects is me hiding something from him, he'll call me out on it. Sometimes this is true (when I don't think it's the right moment to say it), sometimes he's massively reading into things and I see his own Pluto trauma (fears) playing out. But because we both know what Pluto does with you, we have more tolerance for each other's moments. No, I don't like being accused of something I didn't do and I'll set things straight right away... but I get it, and that helps me stay calm and calmly try to talk to him, let him see for himself that he can trust me.

So, to answer your question: I think what's most imporant is to think to yourself what you want with this guy. It looks like you find it too much for you to handle and aren't that interested anymore, so then don't try to push it. Don't give him false hope. If you do want to give it another chance, be honest and tell him. If he's Plutonian, too, chances are he's scared of making his feelings known unless he's sure you're interested.

As for when it ends, well, I know it's a cliché, but it takes time. Especially with an aspect this tight. If he stirred up any emotional issues with you, work on yourself, why you have these, if it reminds you of something else you may not have worked out yet.

Good luck.

posted March 15, 2015 03:49 PM              

In the oppostion I was Pluto.

He resisted me in almost every way except sexually. He posessed very intense emotions & I triggered those feelings but due to Pluto opposing his Sun-Moon natally, he didn't want to feel that energy. If anything, he was pretending like it didn't even exist. Now he's happily in a relationship with a very young and care free Sagittarius which would probably suit him better. She's not looking for debth, just a good time. It all makes sense now..

posted March 15, 2015 06:13 PM            

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Originally posted by meissieri:
I have the square in my natal chart, which means I also have it with people up to 5 years younger than me. Yes, the themes of manipulation, backstabbing, lying, stealing from me (Pluto rules crime, and I have it in my 2nd house of possessions), mind games. Just the whole lot. It's all been stuff that really held me back - or more like: at least felt like it would get in my way just when I was feeling happy and my life was getting on track.

In relationships, well, I relate to the stuff you've mentioned: not being able to let go of someone, even if they're bad for me and actually hurt me, etc. Some of it was because I was too submissive, always letting people take advantage of me and not being honest enough with what I truly wanted - afraid I'd lose that person (and in most of these cases, I actually did at the first fight/moment of me finally growing a backbone and setting boundaries - I wasn't used to fighting, so I just bottled stuff up).

What worked for me is sticking to people who have similar aspects in their chart. My closest female friends were very Scorpionic/Plutonian and it still blows me off my feet finding out they've been through the same things as I have. Most of my ex's/love interests/flings/even unrequited were all very Plutonian and I'm finally experiencing the more positive sides of Pluto in a relationship, now that I've finally gotten therapy to deal with childhood issues and dared to be more honest with myself and others. 'Cause that's what Pluto wants: for you to see how you truly feel, underneath the fluff, social conventions and layers of how you SHOULD feel/behave. He wants you to keep looking inside yourself, instead of trying to see past other people's masks/possible hidden motives.

My partner has a very tight Venus square Pluto, which is also a singleton (his only water planet) and conjunct a Scorpio Ascendant. When we have a fight/difference of opinion, yes, he makes me uncomfortable with constantly wanting me to be honest and if with even the smallest thing he suspects is me hiding something from him, he'll call me out on it. Sometimes this is true (when I don't think it's the right moment to say it), sometimes he's massively reading into things and I see his own Pluto trauma (fears) playing out. But because we both know what Pluto does with you, we have more tolerance for each other's moments. No, I don't like being accused of something I didn't do and I'll set things straight right away... but I get it, and that helps me stay calm and calmly try to talk to him, let him see for himself that he can trust me.

So, to answer your question: I think what's most imporant is to think to yourself what you want with this guy. It looks like you find it too much for you to handle and aren't that interested anymore, so then don't try to push it. Don't give him false hope. If you do want to give it another chance, be honest and tell him. If he's Plutonian, too, chances are he's scared of making his feelings known unless he's sure you're interested.

As for when it ends, well, I know it's a cliché, but it takes time. Especially with an aspect this tight. If he stirred up any emotional issues with you, work on yourself, why you have these, if it reminds you of something else you may not have worked out yet.

Good luck.

Oh yeah, me and my partner have my Sun and his Venus + Psyche at 21 Leo square my Pluto at 12.30 Scorpio and his at 18 Scorpio. His squares my SN as well at 25 Leo. So the one from my Sun to his Pluto is really tight.

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What would make someone Plutonian? The only personal planet he has that touches Pluto is his mars and it's a trine. The rest are to the outer planets. BUT his Pluto is in Scorpio which probably makes it ultra intense and it opposes my sun. I'm not Plutonian at all except my 4th house is ruled by Scorpio. If anyone is giving false hope it's him. I could tell from the start that he was already trying to control the communication between us (his Pluto falls into my 3rd) Like he'd message me then if I was busy it would take me a couple of days to respond...then he'd wait a week before getting back to me and I knew it was on purpose because I know he read it. Then I started texting him and we only exchanged a few he asked me the question I PLAYFULLY said no (seriously any other guy would have played along) and then he just goes ghost. I don't have time for these types of games. I sent that final text and as far as I'm concerned I've written him off for now as not being interested anymore. If he comes back I'll deal with it then..all of this just simply because I didn't give into his request. But to be honest we have other way more oppressive and troubling aspects in our synastry than pluto/sun...like vertex/south node/saturn and his nodes touching my ascendant and descendant. So me and this guy have a "history" so to speak.

posted March 15, 2015 06:19 PM            

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Originally posted by Yanmorg:
I had the Sun-Pluto opposition with a Taurus guy along with a Sun-Pluto conjunction. He was a Taurus Sun and Taurus Moon which opposed my Scorpio stellium as well.

In the oppostion I was Pluto.

He resisted me in almost every way except sexually. He posessed very intense emotions & I triggered those feelings but due to Pluto opposing his Sun-Moon natally, he didn't want to feel that energy. If anything, he was pretending like it didn't even exist. Now he's happily in a relationship with a very young and care free Sagittarius which would probably suit him better. She's not looking for debth, just a good time. It all makes sense now..

Anyway, YES to your question. It's just as binding as Saturn only worse because the obesession can consume you if you have little self-control (which I did in this situation). His Sun and Moon was also located in my 12th house so you can imagine the debt we experienced. We also had Sun-square pluto in composite which shows the power struggles between us. I was way too attached and involved. He just didn't want to go that deep for whatever reason.. It wouldn't have worked out looking back.. add that aspect to an already intense synastry and you get a lot of tears, anger, happiness, etc. a worldwind of emotions!

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posted March 15, 2015 09:42 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Exact SUN conjunct PLUTO (0°00) in synastry. I'm the SUN.

For someone I haven't seen in 20 years, it surprises me how much he'll cross my mind. 'Haunted' is a good word.

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posted March 15, 2015 10:07 PM            

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Originally posted by babybull82:
Wow, well at least it's doesn't consume your life..not saying this consumes my life totally..but throughout the day I'll get the urge to look at his fb every so often. But I'm trying to stop that. Something I did forget to mention though is I know myself and if someone else came along that I liked better and he actually showed interest I'd probably move on after that. I would still occasionally wonder about him though I'm sure.

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We became FB friends in 2010 when I felt a need to quietly 'keep tabs' on him. But our interaction has been minimal. He posted a valentine to my Wall one year. It was ... endearing.

I made a vow, a new year's resolution this year, to never let those undeserving of my attention and effort to entice me to waste it on them. It takes time, but I feel better overall.

posted March 15, 2015 10:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
We became FB friends in 2010 when I felt a need to quietly 'keep tabs' on him. But our interaction has been minimal. He posted a valentine to my Wall one year. It was ... endearing.

I made a vow, a new year's resolution this year, to never let those undeserving of my attention and effort to entice me to waste it on them. It takes time, but I feel better overall.

We're ultimately stronger than even the strongest synastry.

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posted March 15, 2015 10:30 PM            

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Originally posted by babybull82:
Funny, me and this guy have been friends on fb since 2012 but never interacted then out of the blue he hits me up on a dating website, go figure lol..kinda wish I could go back to not paying him any attention like I used too..

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It's a simple rule, it's just hard to implement and tougher to stick to.

posted March 15, 2015 10:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
It's a simple rule, it's just hard to implement and tougher to stick to.

Only give your time to those who deserve it. That means they actively show appreciation and you're not left guessing.

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"Only give your time to those who deserve it"

I'm putting that on a sticky and putting it on my computer so I can read it when I feel the urge to waste my time checking on someone who obviously has no time for me.

posted March 15, 2015 11:34 PM            

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Originally posted by babybull82:
"Only give your time to those who deserve it"

I'm putting that on a sticky and putting it on my computer so I can read it when I feel the urge to waste my time checking on someone who obviously has no time for me.

Thank you!!

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posted March 16, 2015 03:08 PM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
I met someone who has his Sun opposite my Pluto exact and he told me he loved me after we saw each other like three times.

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posted January 30, 2023 12:17 AM            

It’s been two years of no contact and I still find myself obsessing over him from time to time. I’ve never felt such an intense love and sexual addiction to someone. The entire situation lasted 6-9 months from the time we met, but changed our lives forever.

The things that transpired between us you wouldn’t believe, it was so Plutonian. Like me accidentally getting him fired from work by sending a text to what I thought was my best friend but was actually going to a colleague of the same name detailing all of the illegal things he had done including something involving work (I then had the cops chasing me to make a statement on him for that), him losing his license when I wouldn’t get out of the car and he had been drinking, him impregnating his ex when they slept together one time after we had a fight, him attacking me and me pressing charges so he has a criminal record for what he did to me. It was the only thing that ever would have stopped the relationship. At one point he proposed to me and we would always say we were engaged even though none of it was every really committed. I swear I’ve lived so many lives playing this relationship out with this person.

Before our relationship even began his partner kicked him out of the house because she was adamant we were having an affair (we weren’t, we didn’t have any feelings or anything for each other at the time). There was even this insane psychic lady at our friends funeral who had just met us who predicted our relationship and then verbally abusing me for flirting with him (I wasnt?) at the funeral!

Even with the DVO that stops him from contacting me he did try to contact me on social media after the court case, I sent it to the child’s mother who he is back in a relationship with. I did try to contact him once too after that.

This tie is so strong and doesn’t seem to weaken over time. It felt like a drug I couldn’t live without and still crave even though I know the devastation it causes.

We completely transformed each other.

posted February 14, 2023 06:52 AM            

You never thing a loving relationship can turn to such sh1t. Until it does. Mind-blowing and devastating all at once.