posted March 16, 2015 06:54 PM            

• Strong NESSUS links (in mature individuals, it tends to belie relationships that are societally inappropriate or are going against the status quo. Especially look for links to personal points, and DEJANIRA (157)

• NABAKOV (7232) I'm surprised how many times this appears in natals of those willing to consider or even seeking May/December romances. Synastric aspects show a relationship between the two energies.

• MENTOR (3451) Goes without saying, if a natal has MENTOR strong, the individual is open to building strong bonds with older individuals who can teach them. If there are other links of a romantic or sexual nature, these could become romances.

posted March 16, 2015 08:45 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Given you're looking for a rather taboo connexion, I'd suggest incorporating the following:

• Strong NESSUS links (in mature individuals, it tends to belie relationships that are societally inappropriate or are going against the status quo. Especially look for links to personal points, and DEJANIRA (157)

• NABAKOV (7232) I'm surprised how many times this appears in natals of those willing to consider or even seeking May/December romances. Synastric aspects show a relationship between the two energies.

• MENTOR (3451) Goes without saying, if a natal has MENTOR strong, the individual is open to building strong bonds with older individuals who can teach them. If there are other links of a romantic or sexual nature, these could become romances.

As usual, stick with natals where SATURN is in strong connexion to relationship points: VENUS, JUNO, SUN, etc. It helps to indicate one who's got a natural inclination towards age-gap relationships.

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Thanks for suggestions, Auby. But these asteroid references are way over my head. Where can I find ephemerides and interpretations for these?

I was reading about 7th House rulers posited in 10th in cases of large age gaps. Then noticed that in Davison charts of those 2 strongest candidates I've found: Aquarius on Descendant, and Saturn co-ruler falls very close to the MC! Seems to be a pattern there.

I've updated her chart with asteroids you suggested. Here's what I see: Dejanira=Venus in 1st. Nabokov in 8H Pisces, within 1.5 of my natal Juno. Mentor=Eros in 12H Cancer. Nessus in 3H Libra, no aspect.

None of these in aspect in my own chart.

posted March 16, 2015 11:36 PM            

I had no idea until much later, but these oddly 'primed' me for the relationship I have now. I never truly thought that I would have such a partner; I don't have 'father issues' or a deep yearning for an older partner. I always dated slightly younger men in college. It wasn't until my latter twenties that I began to find, as if by accident, my partners were suddenly 7 years and 13 years my senior. Go figure.

I suspect that his exact conjunction of NABOKOV to his MOON might be a natal predisposition to a younger partner. He just never dated, and the one relationship he had prior to me was in college; they were the same age. (He ended it amicably following graduation.)

I thought that SATURN would have to be involved though, wouldn't it? My 7R is 4H NEPTUNE. It trines his MOON-NABOKOV and VENUS-KARMA, but makes no aspect to either of our SATURN. Really, I have nothing in the 10H except PSYCHE. My 3H MERC rules my MC. No aspect to SATURN, either.

However, I found that SATURN does have some presence in my romantic choices -- somewhat. It's my 5R, on the SGC, and 1º conjunct my JUNO.

You've probably gleaned from the above that casual relationships are not my thing. But that might be the tiny little part of me that considered, y'know, what? Why not?

It takes some headwork, though, and preparation. It's not something someone is immediately, completely okay with. Granted, were it anyone but him, I don't think the thought would have even crossed my mind. But because it is him, I considered it -- after some serious consideration.

posted March 17, 2015 03:21 PM            

This has been my primary focus. And there are a LOT of them with her.

You've probably gleaned from the above that casual relationships are not my thing. But that might be the tiny little part of me that considered, y'know, what? Why not?

I don't mind casual relationships if they're on the way to the One. But casual relationships are not my primary focus.

posted March 17, 2015 05:16 PM            

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Originally posted by comdoc:
This has been my primary focus. And there are a LOT of them with her.

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... Really? What? And where? We must be considering very different aspects, because I'm not seeing any.

posted March 17, 2015 05:43 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
... Really? What? And where? We must be considering very different aspects, because I'm not seeing any.

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That's strange cause I see quite a lot of things.

Sun (ASC ruler and Venus' dispositor) and Mercury (5th house ruler and Mars' dispositor) opposite Saturn (7th and 8th rulers' dispositor)
Aqua DSC
Saturn in the 7th conjunct DSC
7th ruler conjunct 8th ruler in Capricorn trine 5th house ruler
Saturn's dispositor in Capricorn
5th house ruler quincunx Saturn
Moon trine Saturn
Venus-Dejanira sextile Nessus
Eros-Mentor
Mars in the 10th
I think Scorpio IC+Pluto in the 4th square Venus and Moon square Uranus could help too

posted March 17, 2015 10:43 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
That's strange cause I see quite a lot of things.

Sun (ASC ruler and Venus' dispositor) and Mercury (5th house ruler and Mars' dispositor) opposite Saturn (7th and 8th rulers' dispositor)

Her Sun--Mercury is sextile our Venus--Juno and Moon--Neptune; and trine my Mercury.

Aqua DSC. We both have strong Uranus; mine is exactly trine my Aqua DSC. Hers is conjunct Neptune and my Vertex, and trine my NNode--MC.

Saturn in the 7th conjunct DSC: is trine our Venus--Juno and Moon--Neptune.

7th ruler conjunct 8th ruler in Capricorn trine 5th house ruler

Saturn's dispositor in Capricorn: conjunct my 5th House Vertex.

5th house ruler quincunx Saturn

Moon trine Saturn: and trine our Venus--Juno

Venus-Dejanira sextile Nessus: and conjunct my ASC and trine my Sun--Eros.

Eros-Mentor: conjunct my Cupid.

Mars in the 10th: conjunct our Venus--Juno

I think Scorpio IC+Pluto in the 4th square Venus and Moon square Uranus could help too

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posted March 18, 2015 02:48 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Oh, you guys are mainly talking SATURN. Meh. That's a toss up.

I like EROS-MENTOR as a possibility, though. Is it conjunct?

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posted March 18, 2015 03:08 PM            

Love, Sexual and Relationship Asteroids:

3 Juno - Marriage, committed and bonded relationships, legal ties and protection of rights within the relationship. Marriage and commitment in relationships. Check synastry for connections. Transits and progressions can signify timing of marriage. Working through relationship betrayals, infidelity. Sharing power within relationships in a balanced manner.

4 Vesta - Devotion and dedication to beliefs, tantric sex and passion for ritual; sex as a spiritual transformation. Becoming whole within ones self. Not needing outside validation to be who you really are. Finding sacredness within and without.

1 Ceres - Mother, nurturing, feeding emotional and physical needs. Taking care of each other. Enhances the ability to nurture the self and others - also for those suffering from the loss of a loved one. Children who have lost a parent or other primary care giver.

103 Hera - Marriage, committed and bonded relationships, legal ties and protection of rights within the relationship. Marriage and commitment in relationships. Check synastry for connections. Transits and progressions can signify timing of marriage.

447 Valentine - True love

1221 Amor - Love as felt idealistically and romantically. Unconditional love, how you express it.

763 Cupido - the look of love; Indicator of sexual attraction in synastry. Matchmaker, vain, romantic.

201 Penelope - represents devotion and fidelity

16 Psyche - Perseverance of love, connection of a psychic nature, awakening of intuition, soul seeking completion

433 Eros - erotic love. Represents what turns you on, sexual attraction.

1388 Aphrodite - impulsive love and attraction, love inspired by fated events, animosity turning to magnetism, charisma. Indicates attraction in synastry.

1943 Anteros - the brother of Eros, love returned or love avenged. The answer to love's longing, a place to finally meet.

2101 Adonis - spell bound love, sexual magnetism, the desire to arouse, please and fulfill the beloved. Potent tie. An attractive male. Your ideal male. What is your Adonis by sign and house?

4450 Pan - Seductive and earthy sensuality, creative, wily, and likely to instill "panic" to produce change or contact

4386 Lust - potent sexual attraction and connection. Sexually motivated, lustful. Lascivious personality or behavior. Non-committed sex. President Clinton has Lust conjunct his ASC, as does Gene Simmons of KISS.

7328 Casanova: A promiscuous male. Seducer of women. A player, uncommitted.

875 Nymphe: An overly-sexed individual. An indicator of sexual addiction.

2063 Bacchus: Sexual orgies, groupies, highly sexual and unrestrained.

1036 Ganymede - An indicator of same sex attraction between men. Ganymede was the lover of Zeus.

posted May 05, 2015 01:06 AM            

If you're looking at things karmically, refer to the sidereal first, comdoc. It'll give you a baseline.

Bear in mind, this chart has a skipped step. CUPIDO-VERTEX. I'm not seeing anything of yours falling on it, so you wouldn't be her skipped step -- but she would certainly have one. A big one.

On the other hand, you have a skipped step -- it would appear three of them: SATURN-PLUTO-MARS. Her SUN-CHIRON would be on your skipped step, indicating the potential for some mutual heavy karma between you.

posted May 05, 2015 01:46 AM            

My nJupiter(5H ruler) = her dCupido, which is square her dVertex. And my 11H nMoon is opp her dCupido. Her nCupido T-squares my nMoon/Jupiter opposition. My nSaturn(center stellium planet) is square my nNodes. Her nChiron = my nSaturn. Her nSun-Merc-ASC and dValentine are all conj my nPluto.

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Draconic is where we're going, should we properly evolve the tropical. A lot of it remains inactive unless there's dedicated spiritual growth and development.

If you're looking at things karmically, refer to the sidereal first, comdoc. It'll give you a baseline.

Bear in mind, this chart has a skipped step. CUPIDO-VERTEX. I'm not seeing anything of yours falling on it, so you wouldn't be her skipped step -- but she would certainly have one. A big one.

On the other hand, you have a skipped step -- it would appear three of them: SATURN-PLUTO-MARS. Her SUN-CHIRON would be on your skipped step, indicating the potential for some mutual heavy karma between you.

That would be the reason for your meeting. To resolve this karma.

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posted December 04, 2015 09:04 AM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:

Bear in mind, this chart has a skipped step. CUPIDO-VERTEX. I'm not seeing anything of yours falling on it, so you wouldn't be her skipped step -- but she would certainly have one. A big one.

On the other hand, you have a skipped step -- it would appear three of them: SATURN-PLUTO-MARS. Her SUN-CHIRON would be on your skipped step, indicating the potential for some mutual heavy karma between you.

That would be the reason for your meeting. To resolve this karma.[/B]

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posted December 06, 2015 11:16 AM            

'Saw your other recent threads and didn't realize you were interested in this kind of age gap romance.

Are you sure your interested in an astrological soulmate? Seems you are more interested in youth, and justifying it with astrology.

The fixation may not be conducive to your happiness or hers.

Astrological compatibility is not a safeguard against inevitable psychological issues emerging with that kind of age gap.

posted January 05, 2016 01:10 PM            

In a sense, generational astrology is choosing me. This is beyond attraction to younger persons per se. After having scanned 5 decades with an open mind, there's a very specific age range that seems to work and resonate well: from around 1980--1995. So many astrological indicators lead me back to this period.

Youth alone does not guarantee compatibility. I've rejected literally thousands of younger (and older) potential mates.

I'm well aware of age gap and cross cultural challenges, from my own experiences over 5 years living offshore in places where age gap romance is well accepted (Asia).

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Originally posted by Faith:
Oh wow....

'Saw your other recent threads and didn't realize you were interested in this kind of age gap romance.

Are you sure your interested in an astrological soulmate? Seems you are more interested in youth, and justifying it with astrology.

The fixation may not be conducive to your happiness or hers.

Astrological compatibility is not a safeguard against inevitable psychological issues emerging with that kind of age gap.

I say this as one whose husband is 18+ years older. And my friend's boyfriend is 30+ years older. I know the terrain, and it's difficult.

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