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RushingRoses
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posted April 09, 2015 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RushingRoses     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi everyone! i was just curious about the synastry i have with someone. Its a really strange situation where this person will talk about me to mutual friends (we have quite a few ) and they will say complimentary things but they avoid me like crazy and i really can't figure out why. this has been going on for nearly 5 years! i wonder if pluto is the problem? does anyone have any thoughts on our synastry? i appreciate your input, thank you

this is our synastry chart:

[IMG]http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/ah220/RushingRoses/as tro_61gw_02_01_luke_laila.58799.6024_zpsibehtg64.gif[/IMG]

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astra7
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posted April 09, 2015 12:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astra7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So you let it go on for 5 years!??

I would have ditched those so called 'friends' by now. He's probably talking negative behind your back to turn them against you.

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RushingRoses
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posted April 09, 2015 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RushingRoses     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
no the friends are fine with me, its him who avoids me, not the friends. as far as i know we don't really have any history between us so i can't understand where his hostility towards me is coming from. he has complimented me to mutual friends which has confused me even more..

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Aubyanne
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posted April 09, 2015 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi RushingRoses, and welcome to IA @ LL. Love your name!

I don't see any PLUTO issues here. Rather, his SUN is quite closely on your CHIRON. Have you considered that might be the issue?

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RushingRoses
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posted April 09, 2015 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RushingRoses     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Aubyanne, i actually have thought about this. there is a discomfort between us. how he communicates generally is hurtful (chiron) to me sometimes but I'm not sure if this is intentional on his end.

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RushingRoses
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posted April 09, 2015 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RushingRoses     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aubyanne, oh and thank you

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Aubyanne
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posted April 09, 2015 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RushingRoses:
Hi Aubyanne, i actually have thought about this. there is a discomfort between us. how he communicates generally is hurtful (chiron) to me sometimes but I'm not sure if this is intentional on his end.

The MERC is a bit far, but being conjunct his SUN, and his SUN being on your CHIRON, I'd say that's a big part of it. Thankfully, you've got a natal CHIRON-JUPITER conjunction, though wide, which can soften the blow. Unfortunately, it leaves you second-guessing, and wondering -- is it intentional, or are you being oversensitive?

Now, what's the aspect orb on his PLUTO-SATURN opposite your VENUS? I missed that first time around, as it's usually the querent whose chart is in Blue (on the inside) rather than the outside in Red. Especially when the comparative individual's TOB is unknown.

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LaceyLeigh
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posted April 09, 2015 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LaceyLeigh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Post the composite.

I knew a girl like this. She wouldn't talk to me in person, wouldn't add me on social media and even blocked me on twitter, but whenever a friend of hers posted a picture of me and him on his instagram, she would like it and leave nice comments on that photo. And after some research, it was the only time she would like/comment on this persons instagram.

I'm not sure she forgets periodically that she is ticked at me, or if she's trying to get on that guys good side, but she's weird.

We have the love stellium in composite.. so maybe it's just hard for her to stay mad at me. Idk.

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Aubyanne
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posted April 09, 2015 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LaceyLeigh:
Post the composite.

I knew a girl like this. She wouldn't talk to me in person, wouldn't add me on social media and even blocked me on twitter, but whenever a friend of hers posted a picture of me and him on his instagram, she would like it and leave nice comments on that photo. And after some research, it was the only time she would like/comment on this persons instagram.

I'm not sure she forgets periodically that she is ticked at me, or if she's trying to get on that guys good side, but she's weird.

We have the love stellium in composite.. so maybe it's just hard for her to stay mad at me. Idk.


There are a thousand and one reasons one will send another mixed-messages. But it always comes down to personal ambivalence. I've also been in such a back-and-forth, push-and-pull 'relationship' for nearly a decade. I doubt a love stellium (we have that as well) has much to do with it, truly.

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RushingRoses
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posted April 09, 2015 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RushingRoses     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aubyanne, his SATURN opposes my VENUS at 0.18 orb, and his PLUTO opposes my Venus at 1.20 orb. I've heard some scary stories about Venus-Pluto in synastry so i was concerned. i do really like him despite all of this.

LaceyLeigh, what you mention does strike a cord. this person will also compliment me to friends at every opportunity but when they see me they can't wait to leave! they are not a shy person either, socially speaking.

this is our composite in case its relevant :

[IMG]http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/ah220/RushingRoses/compositechart_zpsbfpmaq6p .gif[/IMG]

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Aubyanne
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posted April 09, 2015 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The composite is less useful without a TOB. But we can still see cCHIRON conjunct cSUN. No wonder.

Synastrically, SATURN-PLUTO opposite VENUS has much to do with this. There's an intensity that can easily become repulsion. SATURN is reminded of their insecurities, often unintentionally by VENUS, and PLUTO adds to the power and potency of the aspect.

Out of curiosity, was there never sexual tension between you? Not at any point? You didn't mention that, so I'm figuring it hasn't factored. But with PLUTO and VENUS, it's odd when it doesn't feature in opposite sex synastries in SOME fashion.

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RushingRoses
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posted April 09, 2015 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RushingRoses     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aubyanne, the sexual tension between us is insane, my bad for not mentioning this before. our friends have even noticed it. this is mainly why i could never get why he avoided me, but now i kind of understand as you pointed out how he might feel insecure (saturn) around me (venus). is the connection hopeless in becoming something tangible, in your opinion? I've been very complimentary towards him to no avail.

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the love that burns the
brightest, is the love that is
never returned 💋

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peony
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posted April 09, 2015 10:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peony     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by RushingRoses:
hi everyone! i was just curious about the synastry i have with someone. Its a really strange situation where this person will talk about me to mutual friends (we have quite a few ) and they will say complimentary things but they avoid me like crazy and i really can't figure out why. this has been going on for nearly 5 years! i wonder if pluto is the problem? does anyone have any thoughts on our synastry? i appreciate your input, thank you

this is our synastry chart:

[IMG]http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/ah220/RushingRoses/as tro_61gw_02_01_luke_laila.58799.6024_zpsibehtg64.gif[/IMG]


I love the quote!

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RushingRoses
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posted April 09, 2015 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RushingRoses     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thank you Peony! it reminded me of Venus-Pluto

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Aubyanne
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posted April 10, 2015 12:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RushingRoses:
Aubyanne, the sexual tension between us is insane, my bad for not mentioning this before. our friends have even noticed it. this is mainly why i could never get why he avoided me, but now i kind of understand as you pointed out how he might feel insecure (saturn) around me (venus). is the connection hopeless in becoming something tangible, in your opinion? I've been very complimentary towards him to no avail.


SATURN-PLUTO is damned complicated. The mixed bag absolutely stems from not having a sexual outlet AND the frustration from the fear which prevents it. Damned either direction.

I've been here. It's not a fun place.

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RushingRoses
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posted April 10, 2015 05:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RushingRoses     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for your input, this has made me really think! You're right, not a fun place to be at all

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