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Aunt Anomalia
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posted April 13, 2015 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Am I the only one here who misses discussing personas? For those who want to play again, I suggest to expand the investigation onto progressions and transits.

My first discovery:

5th house cusp persona, progressed

Sun conjunct nVenus (in the 5th house), 1 minute!
Eros conjunct Juno, 000000000
NN conjunct tPluto, 6 minutes
IC conjunct Neptune from the 4th, 4 minutes
Mars opposite his Venus and conjunct his Antivertex, 1
Vertex conjunct his Sun, under 1
SN conjunct his Venus, 1
his surname asteroid conjunct DSC from the 7th, under 1

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posted April 14, 2015 07:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not sure the cusp is reactive without planets/asteroids there, what do you think? the cusp is like a door, you would need a key

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Aunt Anomalia
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posted April 14, 2015 07:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not sure what you mean but I have Neptune on that cusp in the natal.

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And I want to discuss event Personas.

Edit: I got you wrong. Anyway, you can do it here too.

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Ceridwen
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posted April 14, 2015 09:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Like first meeting event persona? for example?


Oh the 5th house pr cusp persona looks sexy, but I am not entirely sure either if it can manifest something without planets.

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posted April 14, 2015 09:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Like first meeting event persona? for example?



That's what I was thinking about, key factors in the FM chart, through Personas. It could be cool. For example, Moon and Pluto play a big role in mine, so I might want to check that and how it affects both people.
Not to mention, of course, the angles, the ASC and MC, analyzing those in more depth to see where it is going.

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posted April 14, 2015 09:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I always start with the Moon charts, as they are the complementary ones to the natal chart (which is really a Sun persona chart. lol)

Might highlight some of the "feeling-level"

our first meeting chart has a close Moon-Pluto-conjunction, part of a close mystical triangle with Sun and Saturn, so i suppose they are important for us as well.

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posted April 14, 2015 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon persona fmc

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Ceridwen
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posted April 14, 2015 09:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
fmc moon persona and me (in the middle)

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His is unsurprisingly not as strong

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Aunt Anomalia
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posted April 14, 2015 10:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His comparison isn't that bad. Mars on Sun-Moon-MC looks like a slap "hey, here she is". His IC&MC ruler Mercury conjunct MC seem to have a similar vibe. Jupiter conjunct Venus is great for awakening feels. Vertex conjunct his Mars-Jupiter - you're sexy and he knows it

In the persona itself I like the Scorpio Moon, Sun conjunct Pluto and ASC-NN, it reflects how that meeting affected you. Venus conjunct Chiron...it sux that it works.

I find it interesting that the persona Venus touches your Moon and his Moon is touched by Mars.


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Aunt Anomalia
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posted April 14, 2015 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ceridwen
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posted April 14, 2015 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How could you not be?
DW-Sun-Moon-conjunction alone along with the glue of Saturn and liberation of Uranus.

Venus/Neptune and Mars/Pluto, too, and naturally the composite has Sun-Moon-Venus-Pluto-(Ceres). Wow. that is just mindblowing!

I wonder what it means, that you should become an actress to play together with him?

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posted April 14, 2015 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"is comparison isn't that bad."
I guess so.
I was dazzled by my own very exact alignment of the angles. Actually the irst meeting chart itself had its ASC on my natal ASC by 2 degrees and exact conjunct my NN.


But I do think there are some things in there which point to him not being unaffected either.
Well of course our first meeting has been 8 years ago, and he might not even remember it. Is it still valid?
I saw him once again a few months after that initial talk,b ut was acting silly, (but he did see me on that occasion as well, well I guess we did not have a choice in seeing each other, as we were literally almost bumping into each other on a parking place. so not even near any theatre or theatrical performance, that one would come the day after that.
Sometimes I think if I had acted differently than I did back then, or ACTED at all, who knows? Maybe things would have been easier, smoother.
But as it was I opted for staging a complete disappearing act for 2 years. lol)


Does a first meeting chart loses its validity if you do such a dumb thing like it?

Nevertheless, with all the loooooooong time in between, it seems like it had triggered something in both of us, something we apparently subconsciously connect to whenever we meet again. At least so far.


" Mars on Sun-Moon-MC looks like a slap "hey, here she is"."
I actually like that. lol


"Jupiter conjunct Venus is great for awakening feels. Vertex conjunct his Mars-Jupiter - you're sexy and he knows it "
LOL

Maybe that is the reason he constantly keeps on talking about getting naked, lately, just stage-talk of course, and usually connected to the suggestion that he could be rented for cleaning, but he only cleans naked or with naked chest (he does do some variation of this joke, at least the last 3 times I saw him, and yes he made it EVERY TIME).
I had to laugh about that cause it portrays that Mars-Jupiter-conjunction in Virgo of his just so textbookperfect.
Well, he did try to make it a little more innocence (because of possible minors being in the audience) by informing me that he would be wearing a bathsuit at least. No clue why he felt the need to tell ME that, but he was soley focused on me while joking like that.
What? Did he think I would turn into a tomatoe and squirm with embarassment? Hu, someone made a naughty sexual joke.
But no, no real embarassment right there, not with me anymore (well maybe a little, but the laughter outweighed it ).


I guess though he will making this joke when I am not there as well, so I was just a "coincidental victim".


"Venus conjunct Chiron...it sux that it works."
What do you mean?

"I find it interesting that the persona Venus touches your Moon and his Moon is touched by Mars."
Yes, I thought so too.


Well but it is also true that on the last concert (the one with the bathsuit-joke) something must have gone wrong between us. Or maybe he just made the decision that he lost interest in me or whatever.
I donīt know. He seemed to be very very tensed and high-strung, and we did have a little chat afterwards, and nothing really fit in that.
Despite it being the most innocent, shallow shortish smalltalk, he wouldnīt avert his gaze from me for even a moment. I donīt know, usually when you talk to someone, the one listening is looking at the speaker and the speaker is alternating between looking at the listener and letting his eyes wander a little. But he seemed so completely focused on me, despite being all professional and introverted (? Mr Sag introverted and quiet? What the heck did happen? How did he experience that moment?).

But whatever it was, being annoyed with me or losing interest or whatever, he seemed to have decided after that to keep a LONG distance to his audience.
You can certainly see it on his facebook behaviour, he really stopped communicating too personally or spontaneously with his fans, unless he knows them for a long time, and he also stopped liking comments, save for some very selected few of people who are part of his personal life, but of course still being friendly-professional.

And this was such a turn in his behaviour, I really wonder what I did do to him, or what I did do wrong, because it is just sooo super-coincidental that he practically stopped doing that the moment I walked out of that door that night.


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posted April 14, 2015 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So this is the Vertex-Persona of that concert

(it seemed the fitting one for the encounter-type experience)


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posted April 14, 2015 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
this is how it affected me:

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But what the heck did happen to him? How did he experience that moment?

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Interestingly I just see the date of the persona chart 27th february.

that is interesting to me cause it falls flat onto our last online communication (well just question and answer, short, matter of fact, a retrieval of information).

I had asked him on 26th february about some date and performance (I wanted to go somewhere on the weekend of 14th may and saw that one of his musicals were being played, but without mentioning him, so I asked if he was going to be on stage that day.)

he answered on 28th february that he was playing Artus instead of that other musical that day (funny enough a few days later the concert came up with Mr Eyecandy, which will take on 16th mays, so I was right about my gut feeling, I was going to be SOMEWHERE on that weekend. lol Just not seeing Mr Sag)

It just struck me how this last informational communication framed that Vertex-Persona date exactly. Interesting.


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posted April 14, 2015 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 14, 2015 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
btw the Vertex-persona chart of the last encounter has ASC EXACT on our composite ASC

AQUARIUS 1-2
AN UNEXPECTED THUNDERSTORM
You may find that you are suddenly tested or taken by surprise. Inner strength and stability will be put to the test but you will learn a lot from the experience. The effect can be quite liberating, after the initial shock. Thunderstorms clear the air after an extreme buildup of energy, and they can often leave us with a sense of awe and wonder at the sometimes extreme power of natural events.
Sudden visitations of natural wonder. Storms in a tea cup.
The Caution: Losing control without warning. Emotional instability. Bottling up and then blowing up.

Hu?

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posted April 14, 2015 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, not nuts. Totally and awesomely sweet.
I like that daydream, and I can totally see you in that.

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posted April 14, 2015 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Reading your stuff. And then I have to eat something. I'll be back.

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posted April 14, 2015 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe his wife had nagged him about you and seeing you brought the stress back. Let's wait an see how he'll act when he sees you again.

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"Venus conjunct Chiron...it sux that it works."
What do you mean?

Feelings that can't be openly expressed and developed which must be a nightmare to a 1st house Venus.

Saturn conjunct MC and your Mars-ASC - perhaps this is why you felt rejected. Vertex aka Sun was conjunct Neptune, this could bring confusion. Sun-Priapus conjunct his Eros and opposite Mars-Jupiter. Maybe was nervous because he felt like he was going to get a boner because of you? It's cool that you got the same angles. The sabian is spookily fitting.

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posted April 14, 2015 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Maybe his wife had nagged him about you and seeing you brought the stress back. "
The thought crossed my mind, too.
After all she was watching us, when we were talking. lol
And I bumped into her on the toilet, and let`s just say, everytime I see her, she seems to be even less enthusiastic about me being around. Well but that is no reason to jerk and stare at me like I am Lilith personified, now is it?

But it is very clear she doesn`t like me one bit.


"Let's wait an see how he'll act when he sees you again."
Yes, that is what I was wondering about. Got the feeling that things might not really get better, just more awkward "frozen heat" sort of.
I suppose "at best" he`s simply going to ignore me from now on.
Which sux, cause I like his attention.
And I am all for acting normal around each other, and I can do the star-audience-thing, I really really can.
and it is not really me who has been making all these comments, right?
So I can do the distant-aquaitanceship-thing.
But slowly I start wondering: Can he?
Or maybe that is not what he wants; I try to be a regular fan, but somehow I always tend to fall out of that box, mostly because he is singling me out in some way.
Maybe he simply wants to correct that mistake now. Even if just to calm his wife`s nerves. And seriously, this is such an awkward situation for me, as I am not really that kind of a woman who draws male attention (especially not that of married men), and it surely feels uncomfortable, the way she winces whenever she sees me somewhere.


"Feelings that can't be openly expressed and developed which must be a nightmare to a 1st house Venus."
Hmm, seeing Venus-Chiron differently.


"Saturn conjunct MC and your Mars-ASC - perhaps this is why you felt rejected. "
I guess so, yes.

And confused as you pointed out. lol
Saturn-NEptune together can be rather daunting.

"Sun-Priapus conjunct his Eros and opposite Mars-Jupiter. Maybe was nervous because he felt like he was going to get a boner because of you?"
ROFL

But I admit I had the same thouht seeing that, and if it was someone else, not me, I would have said so, too. But I tend to downplay any possible effect I could have on him, maybe to not get delusional. But maybe the very fact that I do have some effect on him is part of why things seem so complicated. lol

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posted April 14, 2015 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
EH. Let's forget about him for a while. Post something related to Cupid. I know you want it

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posted April 14, 2015 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks. You are great for saving me from sinking into selfpity too much.

And yes SURE I WANT IT.

Hmm, a persona chart then? Hey how about the 16th may one, even though set in the future?

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posted April 14, 2015 03:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
At your service. Go ahead.

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posted April 14, 2015 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm nothing really outstanding I guess. (I used the beginnig time of the concert, might be like a birth to it. lol) And the Vertex persona as I am growing fond of it

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posted April 14, 2015 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
seeing the synastry with my natal

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Hmm maybe taking back my initial statement a little. Shall I be worried?

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