posted April 19, 2015 02:11 AM            

I figure it's probably time to share with you my own experience, for which the lengthy backstory can be found on a thread I'll be linking shortly -- once there's a bit more to it. But I'll wager that murder karma -- and a multidimensional cycle of violence resulting from it -- has got to be up there in regards to 'heavy karma'. The astrology of it has taken awhile to unfold, and now that it's becoming a more thoroughly investigated area of focus, I feel it's time I contribute what I've slowly learnt along the way.

(I'll also provide some other links here, so there's easier access to my previous work and research threads on the subject.)

Hmm. It's about to be 11:11 here. Guess it's 'time'.

posted April 19, 2015 02:31 AM            

Typically, we think of 'heavy' karma to involve failure, disappointment, loss or trauma -- incidents which would involve deep wounding and lead to psychological distress or maladjustment. The bothersome thing is that we don't have memory of it, so it feels like a faint mark upon one's soul; something left behind, though we can no longer recall the source. A scar, though the wound itself has been consciously forgotten.

And, as I'm sure none are surprised, it tends to involve close relationships and profound connexions. So synastry and composites are where these aspects and configurations tend to most readily present themselves; even more prominent if they hook deeply into each natal and cross systems. But we won't get to that just yet.

Some of the most common events or examples of heavy karma:

- abuse within the family
+ parent to child / children

- failed marriage / committed relationship
+ through death (or suicide) of partner
+ through murder of partner

- ongoing violence, feud, or vendetta
+ between family members
+ between lovers

- unrequited or impossible 'star-crossed' circumstances between would-be lovers

- severe betrayal by one loved and trusted
+ parent of child
+ siblings
+ spouses (infidelity, leading to divorce)

In fact, one of the most common instances which incurs karma is divorce. Is it any wonder we have so many angry, confused, disgruntled Soulmates populating the Earth at this time? There have been many broken commitments, promises, and the agreement to love one another. In short, anything that causes a loss of love can incur karma. The circumstances surrounding it, the impact had upon both individuals (or more, if a group) as well as the influence of their society and culture can 'upgrade' that karma to 'heavy'.

There are indeed many markers that we can point to when evaluating the potential severity of discovered karma in a synastry. They range from The Skipped Step phenomenon to SATURN overlays, hard aspects of PLUTO, Draconic and sidereal cross-aspects, heavy 12H and 8H influence, and, most importantly, natal configurations that 'hook into' each other's karmic patterns showing a clear theme or purpose.

posted April 19, 2015 03:47 AM            

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Originally posted by midnightvenus:
May I ask what you think of one's 12H ruler (also ruler of the SN, if this matters) exact conjunct someone's Saturn and square Pluto (orb of 1°34)?
Along with Vertex conjunct Vertex.

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What do SATURN and PLUTO rule? Clearly, the 12R and SNODE involvement points to outstanding karma, and debt.

posted April 19, 2015 03:57 AM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
What do SATURN and PLUTO rule? Clearly, the 12R and SNODE involvement points to outstanding karma, and debt.

I believe you said your ASC were also conjunct within 2º?

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ASCs conjunct within 5°
Pluto rules 7H, Saturn rules and co-rules 9H and 10H.
And my Pluto conjunct his NN (orb 1°53 though)
12H ruler square his Nodal Axis (orb 1°52)

I know trines and sextiles are not as strong, but our 5H rulers aspect each others Nodal Axis

posted April 19, 2015 04:06 AM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
and, most importantly, natal configurations that 'hook into' each other's karmic patterns showing a clear theme or purpose.

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