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polkadotstars
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posted May 09, 2015 08:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for polkadotstars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is a basic synastry question that I just need some help clarifying. I've been reading that you can't really just look at the synastry aspects alone- you also need to look at the individuals own natal charts to see if one person's planet is aspected in their own chart to feel a synastry connection with the other person's.

For example, if Person A's Venus was square Person B's Pluto. And if I wanted to know if Person A felt the synastry connection, would I need to look at their own natal chart to see if Venus was aspected, or if Pluto was aspected? Or maybe I need to see if they have a Venus-Pluto aspect in their natal.

My bottom line, that I'm probably doing a horrible job in explaining, is what am I supposed to look at when comparing a synastry chart and the individuals natal charts to see if the individuals will feel the aspects?

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EmGem
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posted May 09, 2015 08:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i'd like to know this too!

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posted May 09, 2015 09:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I donīt think it is a question of "IF" they are feeling an aspect. But more so how and most importantly how much they like it, dislike it or do not care.


If Person A has Venus square someone elses Pluto, provided the orb is close, I`d look:

a) is there natal resonance with Venus/Pluto, maybe they have Venus in Scorpio or Venus aspecting their own Pluto etc.

b) how is their Venus aspected to other planets in their or B`s chart.
Is their Venus opposite their own Moon and hence making a T-square with B`s Pluto?
Does their whole emotional make up feels affected by this
If so how would they react to it?

Their Venus and/or Moon in Scorpio, might feel a strong resonance, it will bring their own Plutonic vibe in terms of emotions to the foreground. Depending on how well they deal with their natal Pluto, it could be exactly what the doctor prescribed and they feel insanely attracted, or sometimes it could also be a red flag to them, instant dislike is a possibility too.

Whatever it is, one thing is certain, they will be strongly affected.


What about B and his Pluto?
Is it the only planet involved in aspects with A`s Venus (and Moon)? Is it a less than important planet in their natal?
They might even hardly notice.

On the other hand is Pluto in their natal unaspected and sitting on their DESC or ruler of 5th house?
The other will illuminate those passionate vibes in relationship terms for them, and hence the attraction will feel compulsive.

Alternatively they might also have a personal planet in relation to their Pluto. Let`s say their Mars squares their Pluto, and it sits exactly on A`s Venus. KABOOM.
This bomb detonates! loudly.
Does not mean it will be easy or smooth though.

But if their Pluto is maybe sitting in the 6th house, ruler of 6th house as well, and not quite unaspcted but having a trine to Mercury in 10th house, but nothing more than that.

Well their Pluto will just be not important in terms of what they are romantically attracted to (though it has something to say about their ability to cooperate in an everyday sense and in their job).

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LucieLemonade
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posted May 09, 2015 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To add to what Ceri has said, here's a concrete example.

If you read about moon square pluto in synastry you'll read a lot about how strong and intense it is. However, I have this in my natal chart. So everyone I meet around my age has their Pluto squaring my moon.

I don't really feel this aspect in relationships with others, except my mother (read about moon square pluto natal).

If I did, i'd be in love and sexually attracted to just about everyone in my age group!

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posted May 09, 2015 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
in my view it is the personal planetary synastry that really lies the foundation of an attraction, and on the basis of that foundation an aspect with outer planets might be perceived quite differently.

Of course I do have Venus-Pluto-square with a lot of men in my generation, even if we keep the orb tight.
Those that REALLY got to me, first of all had their own Pluto-thing going on (Sun, Venus, Mars to Pluto mostly) plus a personal planet aspecting my Venus as well. This is true even if they were not of my generation.

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polkadotstars
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posted May 09, 2015 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for polkadotstars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm okay I think I understand. So, if a man has a Moon square Pluto orb of 1' in his own natal chart. And his Moon squares my Pluto of 4' orb, he will be able to feel it pretty strongly, correct? Because there is a tie between our synastry and his own chart?

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posted May 09, 2015 07:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by polkadotstars:
Hmm okay I think I understand. So, if a man has a Moon square Pluto orb of 1' in his own natal chart. And his Moon squares my Pluto of 4' orb, he will be able to feel it pretty strongly, correct? Because there is a tie between our synastry and his own chart?

Personally I think it is the opposite because he is already used to this type of energy. Anyone born around his same year his moon will square their Pluto.

As I said above, my moon squares the Pluto of almost everyone in my age group. If I felt it strongly I'd have some intense reactions to many many people, and I don. There has to be other stuff going on in the synasty.

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