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morgana
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posted May 12, 2015 12:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for morgana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello everyone, I recently got a synastry and composite chart. I'm posting a few aspects and overlays and I would like to know what do you make of them. Thank you very much!

Synastry Aspects (all within 3 degrees):
My Sun conjunct his Pluto in his H8
My Persephone conjunct his Pluto in his H8
My Venus conjunct his Vertex in his H7
My Mars conjunct his NN in his H5
My SN conjunct his Mars in his H3
My Lilith conjunct his Moon and Ascendant in his H1
Sun trine Venus double whammy

Synastry Overlays:
My Sun in his H8
My Pluto in his H8
My Mercury in H8
My Name asteroid in his H8
My Mars in his H5
My Venus in his H7

His Moon in my H1
His Sun in my H4
His Name asteroid in my H4

In Composite we have a grand trine involving:
Jupiter in H1
Mars in H5
Pluto in H8

In Composite H7 placement we have:
A Sun/Venus/Mercury/Karma conjunction, Vertex and the North Node.

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Randall
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posted May 12, 2015 02:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome! Moving this to Interpersonal Astrology.

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morgana
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posted May 13, 2015 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for morgana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone?

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LeeLoo2014
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posted May 14, 2015 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello! Welcome! please post the charts.

HOW TO GET YOUR CHART
1. Go to www.astro.com . You can create a free account or enter your birth data as a guest; however, creating an account will allow you to save your information – great for trying the different charts both for yourself and for others in your life. If you don’t know the exact time of your birth, do your best to find out – it *is* important.
2. Go to “Free Horoscopes” and then to “Extended Chart Selection.”
3. “Natal Chart Wheel” is the default, but you will need to go to “House System” (under “Options” use the drop-down to change to “equal”). *edit* many readers use Placidus as well*
4. Click on “Click here to show the Chart,” then click on the chart which will appear.
5. Right-click and save the chart to your desktop.
HOW TO UPLOAD YOUR CHART
1. Create a free account at www.photobucket.com .
2. Select “Upload Now” which will bring up “Select Photos and Videos.”
3. Navigate to your desktop and select.
4. On right, click “Save and continue to my album.”
5. When you hover the mouse pointer over the chart, you will see that a box appears with a few options. If you need to edit out your name or anything else you don’t feel comfortable sharing on the boards, “edit” is in the top band of options. Select “edit” which opens your chart and provides editing options. Go to the tab “Decorate,” and you will see a number of icons, one of which is an eraser. Erase what you need to, and click “Replace original.”
6. Saving should take you to a new screen where you can see your chart and to the right, a bank of options to “Share this photo.” Click on the IMG code, which will flash and let you know that you’ve copied the link.
7. Go to your thread, open a new post and paste your link.
8. Don’t move or delete your chart from Photobucket, because the link only goes to where the chart was saved!

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Aubyanne
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posted May 15, 2015 02:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree. Without orbs, it's rather meaningless (to me). Sure, there's 8H activity, but that can be sexually- rather than karmically-oriented. That's also not the methodology I use to determine either karmic or fated relationships. Simply, 8H activity does not a karmic relationship make.

The 7H connexions are a clear indicator that you're each other's type, however. That's nothing to do with fate, it's just good potential for compatibility.

At any rate, welcome to LL, morgana!

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morgana
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posted May 15, 2015 10:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for morgana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, thank you both for your responses. I highly appreciate it.
Below you'll find the Synastry (I'm in the inside), and the composite. Thank you!

[IMG]http://i1167.photobucket.com/albums/q623/bleehope/Astrology/synastry2_zpsv4izsdl r.gif[/IMG]


[IMG]http://i1167.photobucket.com/albums/q623/bleehope/Astrology/composite2_zpsrlcf5 8c1.gif[/IMG]

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Aubyanne
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posted May 15, 2015 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His PLUTO is conjunct your SUN/PERSEPHONE. That's deeply transformative. The relationship is geared to help you 'become'; to enter the next stage of your development. The Hades / Persephone myth can provide insight.

VENUS conjunct VERTEX is 0°, so, good orbs. In your 8H, so this is a deep transformation. Not much else going on in the 8H, but the rulers are important. Hard to tell if your MC is 29° Libra or 0° Scorpio. Regardless, the MC is brought in by Libra and the IC via Taurus (if Scorpio). These are angular and thus highly influential.

He'll change you to your core, and introduce you to your dark side. These are old wounds; you're healing 'war wounds' between you, so to speak.

Is it a sexual relationship? There's indication that's a good outlet, if appropriate.

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morgana
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posted May 15, 2015 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for morgana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Aubyanne, thank you for your response.

My MC is in Scorpio. But, what do you mean by angular being highly influential?
And yes, a romantic relationship.

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Aubyanne
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posted May 15, 2015 10:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Angular: ASC, DSC, MC, and IC.

Good that it's romantic, as the sexual element is a vehicle for personal transformation.

I don't see any skipped steps, so it doesn't look like any outstanding karma between you seeking resolution. It's likely a companion soulmate relationship.

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morgana
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posted May 15, 2015 10:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for morgana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, soulmate! I like the sound of that.
Thank you!

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Aubyanne
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posted May 15, 2015 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by morgana:
Oh, soulmate! I like the sound of that.
Thank you!

Yeah, with composite KARMA conjunct SUN in the 7H, you're obviously Soulmates. Probably companion souls, like I was saying.

Sometimes it's tougher to have a relationship with a Soulmate, but it's always meaningful. You always learn and grow. That's really the whole purpose of it, ultimately.

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Aubyanne
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posted May 15, 2015 10:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In 34 years, I honestly don't think I've had relationships with anyone but Soulmates! But then I have some very clear 'soul' goals. Heh.

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morgana
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posted May 16, 2015 08:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for morgana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just found out that asteroid Destinn conjunct Sun (orb 0°), Venus (2°) and Mercury (3°) in the 7th house of the composite, with asteroid Karma right in the middle of it all, along with the NN and the Vertex.

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Peluches
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posted May 16, 2015 08:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peluches     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't see the NN or VX conjunct anything in the composite, actually. Still, very strong connections with, among others, the synastric VENUS-VX conjunct the composite NNODE, all exact, and the composite MARS-JUNO opposite JUP-URA-NEP. As there's a strong composite stellium at 2-4° LEO, it'd be interesting to see what it touches in the natals. Your SATURN is there -- do you think the relationship restricts you in some way, or perhaps helps you to be more disciplined and responsible ?

Also, have you tried these asteroids ?

447,1221,433,16,1585,6583,390,4386,h22,3811

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morgana
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posted May 16, 2015 09:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for morgana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Peluches!

I didn't explain myself well. I meant to say that the NN and Vertex are in the 7th house of the composite as well --mere placement.
As for Saturn, it helps me be more discipline.

And thanks a lot for the asteroids suggestion. That will keep me busy.

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Aubyanne
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posted May 16, 2015 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by morgana:
I just found out that asteroid Destinn conjunct Sun (orb 0°), Venus (2°) and Mercury (3°) in the 7th house of the composite, with asteroid Karma right in the middle of it all, along with the NN and the Vertex.

So composite SUN conjunct KARMA-DESTINN? Yeah, that calculates right. Like I said, Soulmate relationship.

The lack of NNODE aspects in the composite is interesting, though. It may be a very passionate, intense, but self-limiting relationship. Hard to tell.

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morgana
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posted May 18, 2015 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for morgana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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