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Yanmorg
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posted May 20, 2015 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yanmorg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I am on the inside and he is on the outside

Birthtimes are 100% accurate



(Natals; mine first)

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posted May 20, 2015 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for midnightvenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why unrequited? And on who's part?

His SUN conjunct your MOON
Your SUN conjunct his VENUS (which also is his 7H ruler)
Your ASC in his 7H
VENUS-DESTINN conjunction
SUN-PLUTO conjunction

Looks lovely.

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posted May 20, 2015 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yanmorg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by midnightvenus:
Why unrequited? And on who's part?

His SUN conjunct your MOON
Your SUN conjunct his VENUS (which also is his 7H ruler)
Your ASC in his 7H
VENUS-DESTINN conjunction
SUN-PLUTO conjunction

Looks lovely.


Venus square Saturn double whammy.
Venus square Saturn in composite.
Venus conjunct karma in composite

His Saturn retrograde squares my Sun, Mercury, and Venus.

Saturn conjunct ASC composite.

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posted May 20, 2015 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for midnightvenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Yanmorg:
Venus square Saturn double whammy.
Venus square Saturn in composite.
Venus conjunct karma in composite

His Saturn retrograde squares my Sun, Mercury, and Venus.

Saturn conjunct ASC composite.


Some of the orbs are too wide, but these aspects can be quite bonding, some would say 'karmic', and if both parts are willing to work on them, the relationship can work out.

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posted May 20, 2015 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemBird82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
(...)

I see a big chance that you could have possible met that person in another... "time".

But in this time, things seems to be kind of peculiar.

I see mutual interest on each other.
Honestly, I don't see lack of love.
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But the problem is in that Saturn in Aqua.
And that Moon in Aries.
But again, I don't see them as lack of love.
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This is the... kind of a "small problem" I see in the charts. It's a bit weird.

Red person probably has been very lazy, or has been ill, or overindulgent with oneself. Big chance
Very small possibility is: He had been oppresed by thirds (a nation, law, etc)
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So, why am I saying this?
Guy seems to be prone to have routinary activities.
To somehow achieve His freedom (sagittarius NN) through wealth (2nd H)
How much tangible things He lacks, I can barely say.
Because with such Rising Sign/Mars and 1st House, I'd normally say He's an Aristocrat.

Hmm... perhaps He feels He needs to achieve something that is lacking in His Family. Or something that He deserves to be, influenced by His paternal figure.

Weird.
Seems like a guy who has been highly loved.
And things were easy for Him.

And now He's been uncounciosly tortured by himself/environment. Being forced to earn things on his own.

I don't know if He thinks he has time for love.
That Aries Moon in 6th is all about Hard-working.

If you're a laid back girl, probably that would be the only(?) and main problem I see(?)
Since His Saturn and Moon are going to think the Gal is too relaxed and is misleading Him from his Path.

But it's a big Karmic Lie.
If Such routinary and super hard-working aspect is present in him. The only thing that is going to happen is that He's gonna get Ill, Sad and physically exhausted.

The kind of realization He needs, it's not enterely tangible.
Node is in Sag after all.

It's a trick of His mind.

Guy needs a lot of Health.

Moon/Sun/Mars/Venus are asking for it.
He's got even an unaspected Jupiter.

Lord of 7H in 1st.
More of the same.

Definitive Partner probably will be found after body is Healthy.
Kind of easy, it's a very well aspected Lord of 7th.
(Square doesn't count - orb is 9)



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posted May 20, 2015 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yanmorg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gembird82, he is definitely hard-working, no doubt about that.

His family isn't well off or wealthy.

He is biracial if that makes a difference.

His mom is white and his dad is Black.

He leans more towards his father's side with the way he dresses, talks, etc.

If you want to go with the usual stereotypes.

It's crazy how we met and then remet.

He came in my job one day with his dad and little brother and we exchanged a few words. I was doing a little flirting & that was that.

A few months later, I find him on instagram on the explore page. It definitely felt like fate.


And what do you mean regarding Saturn in Aquarius and his Aries moon?

He does have karma conjunct Sun.

Karma opposite moon.

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posted May 20, 2015 05:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemBird82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Yanmorg:
And what do you mean regarding Saturn in Aquarius and his Aries moon?


I have trouble when it comes to expressing myself
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~ As I said, nothing "terrible".
~ Just a trick of the Karmic task

Don't have enough time.

Sorry for not being a bit more extensive.
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Be responsible, but never afflicted by unnecessary pressure

~ Until Next Time.

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posted May 20, 2015 08:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yan let me guess...


He is magnetically attracted to you.

I base this just on his Moon sign which is vasya to yours (a vedic astro component i swear by!).

IF this is unrequited, then at least NOT from his side! (or I'm going crazy )


To not even speak about his venus conjunct your Sun.


If you're interested in some texts about this Vasya connection, let me know. (I put some up here recently). It's about the first thing I look for between charts, IF vasya is present.


EDIT@

Anyway here it is;

My post from May 04, 2015 03:04 AM
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/002593-2.html

(Also on the 1st page I say something about it)

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posted May 20, 2015 11:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yanmorg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mir:
Yan let me guess...


He is magnetically attracted to you.

I base this just on his Moon sign which is vasya to yours (a vedic astro component i swear by!).

IF this is unrequited, then at least NOT from his side! (or I'm going crazy )


To not even speak about his venus conjunct your Sun.


If you're interested in some texts about this Vasya connection, let me know. (I put some up here recently). It's about the first thing I look for between charts, IF vasya is present.


EDIT@

Anyway here it is;

My post from May 04, 2015 03:04 AM
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/002593-2.html

(Also on the 1st page I say something about it)


I am very interested! I just checked out the first one and I still don't understand this vasya concept, but I would love to explore further.

And are you sure? He seems so laidback and carefree. We are still in the beginning stages so only time will tell.

So all those Saturn squares from him won't hinder that magnetic attraction resulting from vasya?

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posted May 20, 2015 11:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yanmorg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just did a little reasearch on Vasya Mir,

It says the moon signs that are magnetically drawn to me would be Virgo and Capricorn, not Aries moon.

I got this from Cafeastrology.

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posted May 21, 2015 01:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yan, I'm sure.

We look at this from a VEDIC perspective;

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Vedic astrology does not work with the tropical (Western) zodiac, but with the sidereal zodiac. This means that you have to subtract approximately 23° from your tropical natal chart (as given by Astrodienst AG!)

[URL=http://www.cosmitec-astrological-compatibility-advice.com/moon-sign-compatibility.html]http://www.cosmitec-astrological-compatibility-advice.com/moon-sign-compatibility.html[/ URL]


Your western Moon sign is at 21'53 Libra.
Your vedic Moon then is at 27'14 Virgo.


Well, his' is clearly Pisces if we count backwards. And the Vedic Pisces Moon is Vasya to Virgo-Moon as you can see at that Cafe-astro source.


I see this work and the proof of it time and time and time after time in my own life.
I'm a Libra vedic moon sign and I attract vedic Cap and Virgo MOON guys like moths to a flame.. it's completely mindblowing. One pisces-guy with Moon in Aqua (so Cap in vedic) is terribly obsessed with me (just ONE example) for yearsss ... but there's nothing outstanding in our western charts together.. I looked and looked and looked.. until I found that Vasya connection and thought AHA! After which I saw this work constantly..

Well, Saturn or not, this doesn't rule out the vasya connection at all.


OK, I'm aware that I'm in another phase than you are, being at least 20 years older. So that might give some difference in experience ofcourse.

But.. you have to remind and TRUST and be aware that his moon *IS* Vasya to yours. YOU have the power. But don't "spoil" it if u get my meaning. I simply guess that's more easily done when you're younger.
So, I can only advice, be patient with his current laidback attitude!


I'm very curious how this will work out... but do not forget my advice!

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posted May 21, 2015 07:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yanmorg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I spoke too soon.

After sending the post, I went back and retraced my steps and found where you actually explained this to someone else on lindaland. My apologies.


And I'm curious to know how this will play out since our moons signs are opposed each other in traditional astrology, but vasya in vedic astrology. My guess is that the pull would be twice as strong since oppositions in synastry are strong for magnetic attraction as well?


You have unlocked another layer to Astrology for me nonetheless which is always the goal


Our composite moon is in the 12th conjunct Uranus in the 11th. Contradiction? Very much so. & I wonder what this is telling us about the potential relationship if our moon signs in synastry play such an important role.

This is all getting so interesting.

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posted May 21, 2015 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yanmorg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by GemBird82:
(...)

I see a big chance that you could have possible met that person in another... "time".

But in this time, things seems to be kind of peculiar.

I see mutual interest on each other.
Honestly, I don't see lack of love.
----------------

But the problem is in that Saturn in Aqua.
And that Moon in Aries.
But again, I don't see them as lack of love.
----------------
This is the... kind of a "small problem" I see in the charts. It's a bit weird.

Red person probably has been very lazy, or has been ill, or overindulgent with oneself. Big chance
Very small possibility is: He had been oppresed by thirds (a nation, law, etc)
----------------

So, why am I saying this?
Guy seems to be prone to have routinary activities.
To somehow achieve His freedom (sagittarius NN) through wealth (2nd H)
How much tangible things He lacks, I can barely say.
Because with such Rising Sign/Mars and 1st House, I'd normally say He's an Aristocrat.

Hmm... perhaps He feels He needs to achieve something that is lacking in His Family. Or something that He deserves to be, influenced by His paternal figure.

Weird.
Seems like a guy who has been highly loved.
And things were easy for Him.

And now He's been uncounciosly tortured by himself/environment. Being forced to earn things on his own.

I don't know if He thinks he has time for love.
That Aries Moon in 6th is all about Hard-working.

If you're a laid back girl, probably that would be the only(?) and main problem I see(?)
Since His Saturn and Moon are going to think the Gal is too relaxed and is misleading Him from his Path.

But it's a big Karmic Lie.
If Such routinary and super hard-working aspect is present in him. The only thing that is going to happen is that He's gonna get Ill, Sad and physically exhausted.

The kind of realization He needs, it's not enterely tangible.
Node is in Sag after all.

It's a trick of His mind.

[b]Guy needs a lot of Health.

Moon/Sun/Mars/Venus are asking for it.
He's got even an unaspected Jupiter.

Lord of 7H in 1st.
More of the same.

Definitive Partner probably will be found after body is Healthy.
Kind of easy, it's a very well aspected Lord of 7th.
(Square doesn't count - orb is 9)


[/B]


I believe I may have found what you were referring to GemBird82, when you mentioned him trying to prove something to his family or make up for something lacking.

His BML is located in his 4th house making only minor aspects to his mars and two outer planets.

In Synastry,

My BML is conjunct his Moon and opposite his Sun

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posted May 21, 2015 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yan,

That Moon/Uranus might add the knowlegde and experience that 'togetherness' and 'space / room to breathe' (which we all need) are achievable and even a necessary ingrediënt for a relationship to survive. Like Khalil Gibran says “Let there be spaces in your togetherness etc." It's hard to believe after your most recent experience that combining those 2 is an option. But it IS, and will be. In that regard, you can't get it any better than a guy whose Moon is vasya to yours as it will give you the TRUST to let both breathe. Ofcourse, the marks left because of that most recent experience will take time to heal, but with a vasya connection in your advantage I truly believe chances are much higher to accomplish this all/balance.

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posted May 23, 2015 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yanmorg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mir:
Yan,

That Moon/Uranus might add the knowlegde and experience that 'togetherness' and 'space / room to breathe' (which we all need) are achievable and even a necessary ingrediënt for a relationship to survive. Like Khalil Gibran says “Let there be spaces in your togetherness etc." It's hard to believe after your most recent experience that combining those 2 is an option. But it IS, and will be. In that regard, you can't get it any better than a guy whose Moon is vasya to yours as it will give you the TRUST to let both breathe. Ofcourse, the marks left because of that most recent experience will take time to heal, but with a vasya connection in your advantage I truly believe chances are much higher to accomplish this all/balance.


Judging by our synastry and/ or composite, what would cause him to feel hesitant towards me? It's still the beginning stages so I can't say much, but it seems he's interested, but just enough to proceed with caution.

Maybe it's his Cancer mars. Either way, I see Saturn playing a huge role in this.

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posted May 25, 2015 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yanmorg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 26, 2015 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yanmorg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 28, 2015 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yanmorg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So either he's really a workaholic or he's just not into me.

He did say he's been single so long that work became his number one priority, but I've heard that before and although every guy isn't the same, I can't allow myself to fall for that without clear proof. If he wanted to make the effort, he would.

It's like pulling teeth trying to get him to open up.

He contacts me every other day and I do as well. We take turns texting one another first, but the conversation is mostly always short accept on rare occasions when I can get him to open a bit.

I get the feeling that I'm coming on too strong, especially when he said it's usually the other way around for him with previous experiences.

Astrology aside, I've learned that if a man is really into you, you'll know it. Maybe this is where all those Saturn squares come into play because I refuse to chase him out of FEAR of being deceived, but the good news, I told him this so there are no blurred lines on my end.

I really think I scared him off because after I told him he lit a fire in me that's been out for a long time, no response. I'll wait a couple of days to see if he reaches out and then decide whether to reach out myself or let it go.

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posted May 29, 2015 02:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Astrology aside, I've learned that if a man is really into you, you'll know it. Maybe this is where all those Saturn squares come into play because I refuse to chase him out of FEAR of being deceived, but the good news, I told him this so there are no blurred lines on my end.

I really think I scared him off because after I told him he lit a fire in me that's been out for a long time, no response. I'll wait a couple of days to see if he reaches out and then decide whether to reach out myself or let it go.



I hear/feel the powerful Scorp in you here & love it (my moon conjunct your Sun).


Keep sharing please. Thanks.

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posted May 30, 2015 07:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yanmorg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Would that first house venus make him rather picky in love?

& since my moon is conjunct his Sun in the 12th, would that mean I can relate emotionally to his own karma? (sun conjunct karma, opposite moon in his own chart).

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posted June 29, 2015 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yanmorg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought I'd give a slight update and maybe get some insight on what's going on

So I figured out where out prominent Saturn in our synastry and composite come into play or at least I think so


I thought this Libra man wasn't interested until I started to notice a pattern with his behavior towards me'

He's been randomly popping up at my job for about 3 weeks now & all times I just so happen to not be working, but today, he popped up and I was there but my hair was looking crazyx


So either Saturn thinks I'm ugly or Saturn is just super slow to get involved, but it's one of those two. What do you guys think?


Is this normal Libra male behavior if they're interested.


He also texts me here and there randomly and I do too. We've only known eachh other a few months so things between us are going at the pace they should be.

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