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abrightfutureahead
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posted June 05, 2015 05:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for abrightfutureahead     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My brother died in a tragic car crash at 18years old. Could you tell me if you can gather information from his chart. I'm aware he has a lot of planets in his 8th house. Anything else relevant? Thank you

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athenegoddess
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posted June 05, 2015 08:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm so sorry. That is so sad.

Well what I see is his Moon/Mars/Saturn/Venus all in Aquarius aspecting by Square Pluto. And Mars was square Pluto by progression. Plus I see Sun at 29 degree, which is exit degree he finished something here in that lifetime.

It looks like at the time he was having his nodal return as well. A huge fate marker and turning point.

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angel4845
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posted June 05, 2015 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
having a lot of planets in 8th especially if the sign is in air can be indication of an early death but who knows, what I've seen is having a lot of planets in 8th especially mars/sun . buddy holly this guitar player in the 50s died in a plane crash, he has his sun in the 8th theres a whole article talking about his death and how he had so many planets in the 8th and ruled by the 8th. I'm soon sorry i did not read the whole thing!!! i know you aware of him having planets in the 8th sorry!! I'm gonna check on the transits and check asteroids I'm very curious to know!
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angel4845
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posted June 06, 2015 12:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
how do you feel about persona charts? i've been studying them myself and i find them very useful don't know if your open minded about persona charts. i couldn't really find much information in his natal alone but i found some clues in his persona charts to look at a more deeper and closer level in some areas in his natal which is why i chose to look at his persona charts....

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abrightfutureahead
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posted June 06, 2015 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for abrightfutureahead     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you so much guys. I will look into this ! I am open minded about persona charts. What can you gather from my brothers chart. Many thanks and best wishes

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angel4845
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posted June 06, 2015 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
so what i saw in your brother's persona charts i took a look at his north node persona chart, in his north node persona chart asteroids karma and ohno is conjunct EXACT in the 8th, Dejanira is opposing fanale in the 7th and 1st. in his pluto persona chart asteroids fanale and phaethon (instances involving cars, driving, transportation, and other forms of recklessness transportation) are conjunct in the 8th. asteroid grieve and RIP is conjunct exact in the 3rd the house of communication and siblings etc. in his mars persona chart i see mercury conjunct grieve and the sun in the 12th house. ohno!, pluto, karma are conjunct in 8th within 1 degree apart. and i keep seeing fanale opposing dejanira in 2nd and 8th everywhere!!

now in his karma persona chart i see
Mars conjunct phaethon in the 8th EXACT. RIP is opposing the vertex in 2nd & 8th EXACT.chiron conjunct the sun in 10th exact. i try to pay attention to the 8th,11th,3rd,5th,4th,12th houses.

omg also in his phaethon person chart (involving cars, transportation, and other forms of reckless transportation) ohno! is conjunct the vertex in the 8th and i see karma and anubis conjunct as well in 8th. grieve squaring chiron in 11th and 8th. RIP and the moon is squaring ohno! and vertex exact as well in 1st and 8th.

i also compared to my persona charts and i've seen a difference just to compare but obviously it takes more investigation to see more clues but this is what I've been seeing if i find more stuff ill post more

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astra7
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posted June 06, 2015 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astra7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am sorry to hear abrightfutureahead.
I've noticed that tJupiter is partile with nSun. Jupiter often brings an ending.... Princess Diana was also the case.

Also, pAsc conj. nChiron in the 1st.

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abrightfutureahead
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posted June 13, 2015 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for abrightfutureahead     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is another chart for him. Thanks so much for the replies. Do you see any signs of him being stuck in this plane. Two mediums have told relatives the same story about my brother. Not sure how I feel about that, but the two ladies told a friend and my nan Andy was still on this plane.. interesting and that he was with my mum

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Ami Anne
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posted June 13, 2015 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am so sorry

TR NN conj Uranus

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posted June 13, 2015 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nep and Uranus conj the DSC and TR Nn conj these. Did another person cause the accident? Was it a girlfriend?

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posted June 13, 2015 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vajra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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