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Gabby
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posted June 09, 2015 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have this with someone....I'm trying to gather information on this!

From Dawn "The Inner Wheel"

Synastry Studies: When Angle Hits Axis

It has been said, and backed up with research, that the single most common signature for long term partnerships is not a link between Sun/Moon or Venus/Mars or Moon/Saturn or any of the common planetary partnerships. In fact, planets have nothing to do with it. The single most common long term signature, which is borne out by my experience, is angle to nodal axis.

This is baffling to a lot of people, many of whom don’t quite relate to either their angles or their lunar nodes, let alone figure out what they’re doing in their partnerships. They aren’t anything solid, they’re a point in space and time. How can a point influence a point? Moreover, how can they interact? Although astrology has always placed an importance on planet-to-angle in synastry, it was always thought that the planet, the solid body, was influencing the passive angle. How can a node do the same?

This is missing the astrological boat entirely. Our angles are what define us, and have everything to do with our material existence. Our angles anchor the infinite symbolism of our charts in space and time. Without angles, the chart has no dimension. You can read a chart without angles, but it’s lacking a crucial element–reality. A bundle of energy without a container.

But our angles provide much more than a frame upon which we hang our souls. Each angle is a defining point where spirit and matter interact. In this way, they are much like the nodes. But where the nodes display our soul direction, how the past becomes the present and future, the angles provide a gateway for our inner being to meet the external world. The angles turn the old astrological catchphrase, “As above, so below…” into something relatively new to astrological thought: “As within, so without…”

We cannot conceive what is not already within us, in nascent form. Astrology declares that our lives are not the result of random occurrences, but reflect what energies are already there within us, waiting to evolve (with the progressed chart revealing what is of evolving spiritual importance at any given time). Our angles are the pathways of this energy exchange between inner and outer, the bridges of the evolving Self. They provide the forming connection between the restless energies of the spirit and the denser layers of matter. They are highly sensitive, almost electrically charged, the finely tuned antennae of being and becoming. When planets hit our angles we feel them acutely. When we have natal planets on angles, the planets’ energy becomes magnified and focused, and are certain to play a starring role in our internal drama. By association, our angular houses carry a power that the other houses do not. Each angular house, in it’s own way, carries the initiating (cardinal) energy of Aries, the thrust from the unmanifest to the manifest.

So, no surprise then, given what we know of the nodes (see the series on the Nodes, which begins here), what happens when the lunar nodes of one chart hit the angles of another. The nodes represent the evolving consciousness; they are almost like the arms of the Moon, reaching out to embrace experience. To the Node person, the experience of the angle person’s manifesting life, the dizzying traffic of that spiritual bridge, is like a potent drug. The Node person can feel the excitement of the angle person’s evolution as the power of the chart flows through it. The Node person is attuned to the direction and intention of the angle–it feels familiar to the South Node side, and stimulating to the North. The Node person feels as if this is where they should be for their own balance and development. There is a natural affinity and a mutual direction.

For both people, the contact runs deep, and a real empathy is possible. The angle person, in particular, feels to the depths the Node person’s struggle to evolve, and these people are very aware that they are on some kind of path together. They have a mutual investment in one another’s growth, and may feel very comfortable moving forward together in life. The angle person’s experience of life is enhanced by the conscious awareness of the Node person. The Node person senses that evolution and balance is easier and more rapid with the angle person around.

The drawback to having this contact comes at times of hard aspects to the angle/axis. Transits via conjunction and square will bring challenges to both (and at the same time), but any planet moving into an inconjunct position to the angle/axis can be disruptive in the extreme. it will take much effort by both parties to assure that they evolve together, rather than apart. The themes of the inconjunct planet will have to be brought into the relationship and worked through in a conscious way. Another difficulty may come when one person’s progressed planet forms hard aspects to the position–that will signify a long period where the person with the progressed planet will need to examine the role the planet plays in the relationship, and how the relationship is reflecting that planet’s development. These can be times where the planet person may want to take a step back from the relationship to get perspective.

The other drawback to this position is one that occurs in all relationships, but the angle/node couple will be more prone to it–simply assuming that we’ll always be together and that things are always okay. This contact may cause us to feel so familiar with one another that we forget that the other person is a developing entity in his or her own right, and may not feel as we do in all circumstances and situations. It’s very important with this contact that we have a perspective on our relationship and acknowledge our partner’s independence. Just because we’re on the same road together doesn’t mean we can’t take detours now and then.

In essence, the energy of this combination can provide for a very powerful bond, a place where two forceful rivers meet, and become stronger than they were separately. Life experience for this couple seems to enhance, not diminish, the tie. As always, in relationships there are no guarantees, but, as my grandmother used to say, “It’s easier when two people pull the cart.” In this case, the cart is the often heavy burden of our spiritual evolution, and it certainly is nice to have a helping hand.
http://theinnerwheel.com/2010/06/05/synastry-studies-when-angle-hits-axis/#comment-238643

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posted June 09, 2015 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is our synastry touching these aspects....

His AC taurus@21.14(my 8th house)
My NN scorp@21.44(his 7th/my 2nd)
His Neptune scorp@23.45
His Pluto virgo@21.24(his 5th/my 12th)
My Moon virgo@18.35
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His NN aries@10.48(his 12th house)
My AC libra@7.05
My Pluto libra@11.05
My Neptune saggy@11.15 (his 7th/my 3rd house)
His Moon pisces@8.59 (his 11th/my 5th)
His Jupiter virgo@10.00
My Jupiter aries@15.05
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On top of this we have....
His Vertex libra@23.06
My Vertex ariea@21.23

Any thoughts or opinions on what these aspects mean?

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posted June 09, 2015 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think I have what you are asking about:

My NN conj. his SN (and vice versa obv.)
My IC conj. his DC (My MC conj. his ASC)
My NN conj. his ASC (My SN conj. his DC)

ASC's squared.

Orbs range from 3-6, not sure if that's too wide..

Is this what you mean?

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posted June 09, 2015 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
I think I have what you are asking about:

My NN conj. his SN (and vice versa obv.)
My IC conj. his DC (My MC conj. his ASC)
My NN conj. his ASC (My SN conj. his DC)

ASC's squared.

Orbs range from 3-6, not sure if that's too wide..

Is this what you mean?



That's awesome synastry such fated aspects. Are you together with this person?

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posted June 09, 2015 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, with Mr.Uranus.

His ASC conjunct my South node exactly
My MC conjunct his North node 1.5 degrees

With my best male friend:

His North node conjunct my Descendant exact

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posted June 09, 2015 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gabby:

That's awesome synastry such fated aspects. Are you together with this person?

Yes, for 3 and a half years. We also formed a band together.

I always thought these were important, but like yourself, no idea how to interpret them really.

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posted June 09, 2015 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Indeed. My husband's ASC/DSC overlay my NODES. As does my mother's.

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posted June 09, 2015 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow guys thank you all for sharing.
I have not heard to much about this, very interesting to me and obviously very nice, binding aspects.

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posted June 09, 2015 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, the karma undeniably binds you. For good or ill, and everything in between.

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posted June 09, 2015 08:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenaia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted June 09, 2015 09:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liliya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ahhh bummer, we don't have any NN/angles conjunctions, just soft aspects DW 0-1 degrees.

My NN trine his IC (sextile MC)
His NN sextile my IC (trine MC)

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posted June 10, 2015 03:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pretty Theft     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Indeed. My husband's ASC/DSC overlay my NODES. As does my mother's.

I have this aspect as well, with my boyfriend. I think I've stated before ... this is IT, I think. I don't know. Maybe. It definitely never happened to me before. I've looked up the synastry with past boyfriends and it was not even close.

I've read that Inner Wheel article and I agree with the concept of a "shared path" -- it definitely feels like we are on the road together. It is truly strange how much I feel that I "recognize" him and how much neither of us want to screw it up, because if you simply looked at the facts it would just be two people being nice to each other when, given our individual histories, there was no real reason to be so other than the fact that this "fits."

Also, his NN is square my Sun, but the important axis connection on his end is that his NN is conjunct my IC and opposes my MC. So we have two of these: my NN on his Asc/Desc axis, and his NN on my MC/IC.

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Originally posted by Gabby:
I have this with someone....I'm trying to gather information on this!


How does it feel for you, Gabby?

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posted June 10, 2015 04:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, it definitely feels like IT. I met Mr.Uranus and in our first meeting we were talking about things neither one of us would talk about with a stranger or even other people. We noticed synchronicities between our lives prior to the meeting. I told him i was into astrology and he asked me to compare our charts to find out if we had met "before" (meaning, previous lives), because of the incredible familiarity between us. But he didn't give me his birth data, lol. I knew only birthday, but not a year. And i guessed the year because of the incredible synastry (involving Uranus, rofl). Ok, and a couple of days after that meeting i began to dream about my past life, in which he and i were married. Later on i found that the persons i was dreaming about were very much real and the facts i dreamed about were exact as well. Here's to ASC/DSC conjunct nodes exact and MC/IC conjunct nodes as well...

He has changed me in way more ways than one. It is a feeling of going somewhere, yes. A feeling that it hasn't started NOW, it has started centuries or even thousands of years ago and it will continue. I think it is not merely karmic, it is a soulmate sign. /we also have my BML on that IC-SN conjunction of ours/


The other person i have shared this aspect, one of my best male friends - this time it is my ASC and his south node on it. Well, i can definitely feel it too. We were meant to be friends (i feel that he was my brother in that particular lifetime i was talking about earlier). We understand each other so well.

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posted June 10, 2015 06:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for geminigal2805     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With my husband,
My Asc & NN on his IC (Desc & SN on his MC).This is the most exact aspect in our chart.
His Vertex & NN conjunct my Mars n IC(a bit wide).
My IC n Saturn (my R7) on his Desc & Pluto (his R8)
Vertex conjunct his Desc
Anti- vertex on his Asc n Sun
We are together since the day we met Gabby.


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posted June 10, 2015 08:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for geminigal2805     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With my husband,
My Asc & NN on his IC (Desc & SN on his MC).This is the most exact aspect in our chart.
His Vertex & NN conjunct my Mars n IC(a bit wide).
My IC n Saturn (my R7) on his Desc & Pluto (his R8)
Vertex conjunct his Desc
Anti- vertex on his Asc n Sun
We are together since the day we met Gabby.


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posted June 10, 2015 09:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by geminigal2805:
With my husband,
My Asc & NN on his IC (Desc & SN on his MC).This is the most exact aspect in our chart.
His Vertex & NN conjunct my Mars n IC(a bit wide).
My IC n Saturn (my R7) on his Desc & Pluto (his R8)
Vertex conjunct his Desc
Anti- vertex on his Asc n Sun
We are together since the day we met Gabby.


That's so cool!!
I just realized my kids all have AC/DC is on my NN...interesting
They are not exact, but still this is interesting!!

My NN scorp@22
My daughter AC scorp@23
My son AC scorp@29--his NN leo@22
My youngest son AC taurus@26

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This is one of the classical, most common aspects in long-term partnerships. It's a very important aspect.
It doesn't have to be a conjunction in all cases, it can also be a DW with other aspects, or even a single aspect. Luminaries, Saturn in aspect to nodes are also common.
The conjunction is very common though.
My parents had a DW: NN/DSC conj (0), NN/MC (4), plus NN conj SN wider.

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posted June 10, 2015 09:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astra7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We are now divorced but still good friends and very long-term.
- My SN conj. his Asc, naturally NN partile his Dsc.
- His NN conj. my Asc (2*)

As if we knew such placements when we met!
We also have Saturn-Venus DW (hard aspects)

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posted June 10, 2015 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ueharaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just wanted to add my own experience with this aspect to balance things out.
I had this with someone I was head over heels in love. My AC conjunct his SN near exact, my moon and Mercury conjunct his NN, and I will not add the other aspects such as dw Venus Saturn or how all of this aspected our Draco and sidereal chart... I was really in love with him and he was not. I remember the whole feeling of déjà vu and "recognition" I had when I met him but he did not. It was all one sided. He did not play any part in my path and I for sure didn't play any in his.
So yes, having this aspect ( or any other as I've come to notice) does not guarantee anything at all.
I think we should not view aspects as explaining or justifying the attraction/love between people, but that is just my own opinion.

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posted June 19, 2015 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for your replies!!

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