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yungang_grotto
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posted June 12, 2015 10:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://zanestein.com/chariklo.htm


Https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/10199_Chariklo

Chariklo.... Chariklo...
Is it patriarchy which causes us to focus on her life partner? When she is the largest centaur?

Just found my Chariklo on my loves North node and I'm feeling pretty great about it among other things...

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posted June 12, 2015 10:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"In Greek mythology, Chariklo (or Chariclo, in the Latin) and Chiron were married and fostered some of the next generation’s wise healers, guides, and heroes.

Chiron is the wounded healer, a wise, initiated mentor and guide.

Chariklo, as with the telestai of old, could be seen as the Feminine complement to Chiron in that ‘great work’."

From this wonderful site: http://sophias-children.com/tag/astronomy-2/

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posted June 12, 2015 10:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chariklo is the largest known centaur-category asteroid; Chiron is the second-largest. Both are found between Saturn and Uranus, with Chariklo said to be “grazing the orbit” of Uranus.

Naiad, by Henri Fantin-Latour (State Hermitage Museum St. Petersburg

In astro-mythology and thus in astrology, such discoveries are said to bring specific archetypal energies into consciousness, where they’d been operating behind the scenes or unconsciously before that.

So with Chariklo and her elegant and newly noticed ring system, what’s coming into consciousness? Let’s look to the myths for clues about the archetypal energies coming to attention.

In Greek mythology, Chariklo (or Chariclo, in the Latin) and Chiron were married and fostered some of the next generation’s wise healers, guides, and heroes.

Chiron is the wounded healer, a wise, initiated mentor and guide.

Chariklo, as with the telestai of old, could be seen as the Feminine complement to Chiron in that ‘great work’.

Chariklo is said to be one of the nymphs or naiads — Water Spirits, or more ancient-still local Nature goddesses — and at the time of this astronomical discovery on June 3, 2013 was dancing in the midst of a Grand Water Trine.

In addition to her relationship with Chiron, Chariklo was said to be a devotee and steadfast companion to theGoddess Athena, and was the mother of the future-visioned shaman-prophet, Tiresius.

Chariklo’s name translates to Graceful Spinner we know that spinning and weaving are powerful ancient metaphors in the weaving of energy and fate or destiny. Think of Grandmother Spider or the divine as Great Weaver, and you’ll be in the right neighborhood. AddGrace, and you’re even closer.

Charis is ‘grace’ or ‘graceful’, and can be found, too, in the word charisma. The word and name are also associated with flow or flowing, hence the Water Spirit connection.

Tannhauser in the Garden of Venus, by Henri Fantin-Latour, 1886 [Image: WikiCommons]

Chariklo is located between Saturn and Uranus, but closer to Uranus — the Promethean ‘great awakener’ currently making astrological news due to the powerful, multi-year square with Pluto. Powerful, transformative energies both.

But Grace, the Graceful Spinner, is right in the mix, and calling for our attention now, with the discovery of Chariklo’s rings and thus more-than-originally-thought power.

At the time of the announcement last week, Chariklo in transit was at 26-27 Sagittarius, spot on the astrological Galactic Center.

We could say that that Chiron’s Feminine complement, Chariklo — wise woman initiate and mentor, Feminine healing, the healing power of Grace and its children: graciousness, gracefulness; the graceful (rather than heavy-handed) wielding of energy and power — is more powerful than previously thought and is now calling for (graceful) attention and (gracious) intentional embodiment.

Given the dynamic, potentially volatile and definitely transformative astro-energetics of the coming month — with two eclipses and the fifth of the Uranus-Pluto squares, and more — we can easily see the wisdom of a more-powerful-than-expected dose of grace, graciousness, and graceful weaving, yes?

On a fun and perhaps also telling note, too, the astrologer Zane Stein notes that Chariklo is often powerfully located in the charts of horizon-edge scientists and science-fiction writers.

Remember, Chariklo gave birth to the future-visioned shaman-prophet Tirisius?

I checked the charts for Marie Curie and Ursula Le Guin — scientist and sci-fi writer, respectively — just to do a wee sampling of this theory, and sure enough, Chariklo is powerfully located.

Where’s Chariklo beaming her gracious wisdom, healing mojo, flowing grace, and prophetic vision in your blueprint and life? You’ll find her by looking for 10199 Chariklo (asteroid) in your astro-story blueprint (chart).

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posted June 12, 2015 10:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My chariklo is also conjunct our composite Chiron...

I dont really need more evidence at this point but it's still nice and fun to do of a Friday morning, to deepen and explore and ripen into extra layers of understanding of love!

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posted June 12, 2015 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow. I've investigated her before, but only briefly.

Turns out I actually have experienced the DW -- his CHIRON on my CHARIKLO, and vice versa. (I also have CHIRON near CHARIKLO natally, and we were born a couple of years apart.)

I really, really miss him sometimes.

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posted June 12, 2015 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow!

I found another CHIRON-CHARIKLO conjunction! This one's even closer. It isn't DW, but it's from one of my dearest exes. No matter how much we broke each other's hearts, (I ended up writing a novel in order to cope -- SF, at that) we agreed that we taught each other what real love meant.

Perhaps CHIRON-CHARIKLO aspects are painful, loving relationships that, once you've healed, you can look back on and be grateful for.

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posted June 12, 2015 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ahhhhh.

Masters' CHARIKLO was conjunct Johnson's CHIRON, too. So there's the scientific research element. That's intriguing.

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posted June 12, 2015 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Both of my parents were born with CHARIKLO conjunct CHIRON, exactly. They almost have a conjunction; it's 5º, so just slightly out of orb.

I thought that useful for comparative data. They've been married 41 years, since 8 June.

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posted June 12, 2015 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Whoa! One more.

My husband's CHARIKLO is on his submissive's CHIRON. 1º30. That took me by surprise, because he'd never dated anyone (that I know of, not significantly) born in '69. (He was born in '73.) He doesn't have the conjunction or near-conjunction as I do, (born in '80).

My boyfriend's CHARIKLO is exactly conjunct my DSC, also. I wonder if that's another nod towards scientific research?

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posted June 12, 2015 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Strange. So, in all of the data, I'm finding it's always the man's CHARIKLO that aspects the woman's CHIRON. How ostensibly backwards!

I've found it again; my friend who's a TV writer and his girlfriend, who's a professional tarot reader. Her CHIRON is conjunct his CHARIKLO. And they have the exact SUN conjunct CHIRON, too. It's his CHIRON. He's one of the most emotionally mature, level-headed, grounded individuals I know, however. I really do feel that the key around the Chiron 'explosion' and resultant estrangement is emotional maturity.

Anyhow. I found that interesting.

So, my conclusions from this tiny sampling are:

- not an indicator of longevity, but definitely deep love
- could point to scientific involvement of some sort
- man's CHARIKLO to woman's CHIRON
- closer the orb, stronger the impact

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posted June 12, 2015 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YellowGerbera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My chiron is exact on my last guy's chariklo! Maybe this is why we had huge understanding and acceptance toward each other's deepest pain... We had so many other chiron aspects..

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posted June 12, 2015 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah423     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have always wondered why, with all the focus on Chiron and on soulmate pairs like Isis/Osiris, Eros/Psyche, etc. no one ever looks at Chariklo.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/002361-3.html

I have a special affinity for her because she sits exactly on my ASC at 11 Sag (and nothing else does). I guess you could say I have a very wide Chiron/Chariklo conjunction since he is at 16 Sag.

No time right now to look closely at composite, etc., but in synastry with my partner his Chiron is semisquare my Chariklo/ASC. His Chariklo sits on my 12th house cusp.

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posted June 12, 2015 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YellowGerbera:
My chiron is exact on my last guy's chariklo! Maybe this is why we had huge understanding and acceptance toward each other's deepest pain... We had so many other chiron aspects..

Isn't that crazy? You'd think it's be the woman's CHARIKLO, but it's her CHIRON to his CHARIKLO. Fascinating.

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posted June 14, 2015 11:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my case it is my Chariklo to his NN and our composite Chiron though. I think it probably takes many forms and gender is fluid.... We all have yin and yang and when we balance them within us we can enter into deep mutually beneficial, enhancing relationship with greater ease and inner equilibrium. Just a notion I have been exploring...

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My Chariklo conjunct my husbands Chiron by 2 degrees. Sounds exciting, cause they were married too, and its gender accurate

In Composite, Chariklo conjunct Dsc.

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posted June 15, 2015 12:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
[bI think it probably takes many forms and gender is fluid.... We all have yin and yang and when we balance them within us we can enter into deep mutually beneficial, enhancing relationship with greater ease and inner equilibrium. Just a notion I have been exploring...[/b]

Heh. Preaching to the choir on that one.

In either case, it tends to be the female CHIRON to the male CHARIKLO. No idea why, really, but it's fascinating.

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posted June 15, 2015 12:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Liliya:
My Chariklo conjunct my husbands Chiron by 2 degrees. Sounds exciting, cause they were married too, and its gender accurate

In Composite, Chariklo conjunct Dsc.


I don't think gender accuracy matters as much, though I do wonder what the differences are when it's the woman's CHARIKLO versus the man's. It definitely has a relationship to science, especially research.

Are you and your husband in a scientific field?

Also, it seems to have a lot to do with bringing in gifted offspring. Do you and your husband have children?

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posted June 15, 2015 12:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
CHARIKLO, it would seem, on someone's NNODE shows that you can bestow interpersonal wisdom upon them; helping them not to react emotionally to 'minor injustices' in a relationship, but instead to use logic and be compassionate.

This is an area they might need to develop, which you can help with.

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posted June 15, 2015 12:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Damn! The last time they were conjunct was for three times in 1949, and they haven't been since?

I guess that makes me pretty special with my 37ºN OOB CHARIKLO, and two parents with the exact conjunction!

I'll admit, though, the more I look into Chariklo, the more it's very descriptive of me: mentor and guide, diplomatic, innovative and future-thinking, bold and boundary crossing, status quo-testing, and a creative investigator and healer.

What's funny is that my actual 'job title' is artist-scientist. Because my art often influences my scientific projects, and vice versa.

Wow! Any other '49ers around here with the exact conjunction like my parents? That's actually quite cool.

My own are near conjunct, but out of orb. Her actual location, 07º TAU '57 is interesting. I'll have to look into the Sabian for that one.

Otherwise, she trines my VENUS/ASC from my 9H, is opposite my KARMA, and sextile CUPIDO. Not bad.

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posted June 15, 2015 12:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Have you seen this, Yungang?
http://www.zanestein.com/chiron_chariklo.htm

I have to agree, from Zane's observations, (and I learnt all I know about the Centaurs from him directly, so his information -- outside of pioneering -- is quite sound) that CHIRON-CHARIKLO really did shape 1949.

My father was born on the EXACT first conjunction, with my mother being born with the third applying to become exact in a week. So my father's is 0º00, and my mother's around 1º00.

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posted June 15, 2015 12:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peluches     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^

Just saw the link (synchronicities, I tell you...). Heck, it's gonna be hard for me to find someone who has CHARIKLO conjunct my CHIRON at 2° SAG.

I know two people from 1949, with their CHIRON-CHARIKLO on my CHIRON. Piano teachers and concertists. We just talked very briefly a few months ago and they listened to me play ; I clicked immediately with the younger of the two, a Russian with whom I had the closest conjunction and square.
(I've got CHIRON at 2° SAG 32' and CHARIKLO at 29° LEO 53'.)

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posted June 15, 2015 01:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Peluches:
^

Just saw the link (synchronicities, I tell you...). Heck, it's gonna be hard for me to find someone who has CHARIKLO conjunct my CHIRON at 2° SAG.

I know two people from 1949, with their CHIRON-CHARIKLO on my CHIRON. Piano teachers and concertists. We just talked very briefly a few months ago and they listened to me play ; I clicked immediately with the younger of the two, a Russian with whom I had the closest conjunction and square.
(I've got CHIRON at 2° SAG 32' and CHARIKLO at 29° LEO 53'.)


Wow! That's wild! Yes, it looks as if it made its way 'round the zodiac by the time you were born; a full revolution since its conjoining with CHIRON. Wow!

And CHARIKLO on REGULUS? How fantastic! Well, you're indeed an artist-scientist yourself with many avenues to explore and further develop over time.

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posted June 15, 2015 01:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Peluches:
(synchronicities, I tell you...)

And I JUST happened to check the thread RIGHT after you posted.

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posted June 15, 2015 07:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liliya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
I don't think gender accuracy matters as much, though I do wonder what the differences are when it's the woman's CHARIKLO versus the man's. It definitely has a relationship to science, especially research.

Are you and your husband in a scientific field?

Also, it seems to have a lot to do with bringing in gifted offspring. Do you and your husband have children?


I got rather excited when I read about it, because we don't have all that many pairing connections in synastry. My Psyche is opposite by sign, but too far from his Eros. We have myPersephone/hisPluto and myVenus/hisMars, but that's all from the pairings.

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We are both from Computer Science background, but none of us are geniuses or done any sagnificant research. In fact, I hated the academic part of my degree and preferred practical aspect of it.

As for parenthood, I'm 30 weeks into my pregnancy. Looks like we are having a triple Leo Only time will tell.

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posted June 15, 2015 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Liliya:
I got rather excited when I read about it, because we don't have all that many pairing connections in synastry. My Psyche is opposite by sign, but too far from his Eros. We have myPersephone/hisPluto and myVenus/hisMars, but that's all from the pairings.

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We are both from Computer Science background, but none of us are geniuses or done any sagnificant research. In fact, I hated the academic part of my degree and preferred practical aspect of it.

As for parenthood, I'm 30 weeks into my pregnancy. Looks like we are having a triple Leo Only time will tell.


Eeeee! Congratulations! My mother's a triple Leo. Lord help you! Especially if it's on REGULUS.

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